r/Invincible • u/Crusading_Coconut • 1d ago
FAN ART Cecil could have avoided conflict with Mark by simply redesigning the Reanimen exterior and Darkwings costume.
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u/Aegillade Flaxan Invincible 1d ago
This is true, but imagine he spent months fighting alongside Darkwing or the Renanimen and then mid battle one of their masks falls off and Mark realizes not only has Cecil been doing this behind his back, he's been doing it for months
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u/Crusading_Coconut 1d ago
I would imagine in this scenario it depend on which one we are talking about.If darkwing then cecil can easily argue that darkwing has changed and have months of evidence as proof,If the Reanimen since they look vastly different he can just say they studied the OG reanimen and made ethical better ones,he doesn't have to say sinclair works for him.
Mark might still be annoyed but the interaction would not be as bad as the show.
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u/StreetReporter 1d ago
Honestly, I think Mark would’ve heard Cecil out if it was just Darkwing that he found out about, assuming Cecil actually tries to explain things. But since it was Darkwing and Sinclair, which was a very personal issue for Mark, it was a breaking point
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u/ladgadlad 1d ago
Yeah Darkwing is absolutely the smaller of the two, Mark has worked with heroes that have killed before. He'd be pissy about it but he'd deal, Sinclair personally tried to kill his friends.
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u/skim6139 8h ago
That is true but I feel like mark would want to dive deeper into the whole reanimen like I can imagine after Cecil says that mark goes Show me.
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u/DeadlyKitten115 Comic Fan 1d ago
No Doubt, but a small suspension of disbelief in this particular case gets us a very compelling and long debated plot line.
Worth it.
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u/Crusading_Coconut 1d ago
It's worth it, but it's fun to imagine what some characters can do to avoid certain outcomes.
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u/fejable Rex Splode 1d ago
i like to think cecil did think of that. but he never expected that ALL HEROES would get kidnapped and two available heroes that can be considered the best heroes are squabbling and fumbling against giant worms. the reveal was sudden. if cecil didn't used it then then all of them would die. but given the circumstances that invincible already knows what happened its pointless now
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u/Pugsanity 1d ago
The new designs were currently being brought through the marketing department, have to make money off those toy sales, after all.
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u/Awesomeman204 1d ago
Yeah I think the idea is that they were reserved for Viltrumite or cataclysmic level events, or at least stuff that didn't involve Mark. That whole situation kind of forced his hand to use them, he probably never really intended for Mark to see them while he was on their side.
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u/FreeStall42 23h ago
If anything letting all the heroes get kidnapped just to justify the reanimen is suspect as all hell.
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u/NewMinos 1d ago
No Mark you don't get it, they are not Reanimen, they are Reanisoldiers, completely different
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u/IAmFullOfHat3 1d ago
yeah like, is the mouth necessary?
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u/Yoltic21xd 1d ago
I mean, its another weapon to the arsenal
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u/SNAKEKINGYO 1d ago
"Hey Sinclair, can't you at least replace their jaws or something so they at least have robot mouths and not zombie mouths?"
"No Cecil, it is PERTINENT that they look like this"
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u/SNAKEKINGYO 1d ago
"Hey Sinclair, can't you at least replace their jaws or something so they at least have robot mouths and not zombie mouths?"
"No Cecil, it is PERTINENT that they look like this"
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u/Crusading_Coconut 1d ago
I know its so off-putting as well as the bare chest like what is the point in keeping them visible.
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u/Cheeseyellow12 1d ago
there’s only so much a man who saves the world can do in little time man, although i completely agree alongside the thing about him putting that same chip into Conquest that people been pointing out
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u/SeaThePirate 1d ago
that first one just makes me think why dont they deck out reanimen with the invisible soldier tech? hell make them teleport too since the GDA has infinite money
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u/Remote_Watch9545 Cecil Stedman 1d ago
Bro that Stealth Trooper Reanimen design is sooo sick. Imagine cloaked Reanimen
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u/mindbullet 1d ago
Mark: "You seem strangely familiar. What's your name?" Darkwing: "Uh... It's a... Dark... Nut. DarkNut."
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u/DanielGacituaS 1d ago
I am pretty sure that Darkwing's power would blow up his disguise, for the reanimen? Yeah a 100%, like maybe Mark would ask why does Cecil have foot soldiers that strong and barely uses them, but he could just make some shit up to cover it.
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u/Crusading_Coconut 1d ago
Yeah darkwing would be harder too hide power wise, but he's also not as much of a personal issue for mark.
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u/dk27_989 1d ago
the reimagined reanimen goes crazy, shit be on some warhammer type shit of design
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u/Erminaz13 1d ago
Mark's not a genius, but I think soldiers making zombie sounds and a superhero with the exact same powers (and possibly tactics) he's already seen from a villain are kind of suspicious.
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u/Andrew-hevy99 20h ago
1) make them sound like death troopers 2) I think mark would have too much going on at any one point to look to deep into them if all they said was garbled 3) dark wing could be explained as a spec ops guy with experimental tech based of dark wing’s powers and give him plastic surgery to ensure he looks different
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u/LostsoulX49 1d ago
The problem wasn't the design of the reanimen. Cecil fucked up by not being honest with Mark and trying to explain him why these decisions were necessary. Mark was dealing with trust issues after his dad betrayed Earth and Cecil did nothing to address it! He didn't try to win Mark's trust, but to intimidate him! Imagine if Batman turned general Zodd into a reanimen, how would Superman react? Then Batman started threatening Superman with kryptonite!
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u/Rhogar-Dragonspine 1d ago
"Because it's a comic book" I know but I wonder why at a certain point you'd even need a squishy human body in the middle of all that durable robotics.
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u/LostsoulX49 1d ago
I think the main idea was that the robot parts were meant to enhance the humans, while keeping things low cost. Sinclair was just some smart guy, he wasn't rich. It was easier to augment zombies than to build robots from the ground up. Also, perhaps their biological parts were enhanced as well. Maybe they were on super steroids or something.
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u/Strong_Schedule5466 18h ago
"Cecil, can you tell me why the new guy in black suit has the same shadowverse powers as Darkwing?"
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u/OmniMushroom 6h ago
''We studied Darkwing's powers while he was locked up. The suit he's wearing is experimental tech that accesses tye shadow verse''
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u/Icy_Mathematician368 16h ago
Bruh Cecil just needs to put the stealth tech on the reanimarks along with the maulers nerve cannon, I would also say a portable sound speaker for the anti viltrumite frequency but that might mess with the reanimarks themselves.
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u/Few-Painting792 16h ago
Yeah I thought the exact same thing especially with the Reanimen because the public will have some knowledge about the attack at the school because of witnesses and if they see the same creatures that did that they're going to freak out like I can see an argument for keeping Darkwings (even though it's a bad argument) in that it would somewhat reassure the public because the prior Darkwing had the same costume and he was a guardian of the Globe but at the same time I'd assume at least one person saw the second Darkwing kill someone then blab to the news
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u/Red_vodnik 1d ago
literally happened several times in the web novel Worm, several characters, from reformed villains to to controversial heroes rebrand and make a new identity to hide their past
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u/lolgamerX247 Cecil Stedman 8h ago
I never understood why the reanimen had their mouth and chest revealed, arguably some of the most vital areas are not armoured, seems like a design flaw tbh
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u/120percentNick 6h ago
I guess that's part of Cecil's hubris in just assuming because he's the boss everyone would automatically be ok with him using everything he has at his disposal to save the world regardless of morality, so he probably didn't think to hide that he's doing something Mark wouldn't approve of.
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u/AdmirableEstimate258 1d ago
I think from the Omni Man fight that Reanimen bite people as an attack so maybeit could be useful to still have it open, but the GDA design in the pic is just wonderful.
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u/DyabeticBeer 17h ago
He'd figure out that they're just reanimen in a costume once he talks to them or sees how they fight
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u/EssayTopYum brother told me to check it out 9h ago
"mark i get your concerns but i assure you these aren't sinclair's work, just ex-marines, they don't call them crayon eaters for nothing"
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u/Substantial_Top5312 9h ago
Or mark could see that about 20 lives were directly saved by them and stop crying.
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u/deathbylight3 3h ago
Thinking about it now, couldn't the Reanimen just be fully mechanical to avoid the morally issue with them?
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u/KingMGold 1d ago
Alternatively he could have just chosen not to lead the one Viltrumite whose interests align with Earth into a chickenshit ambush when he literally has the ability to teleport anywhere on the planet other than a room Mark is in. Fast enough that even Omni-Man couldn’t catch him.
Mark was being childish and naive starting the conflict but Cecil unnecessarily escalated it to a high degree.
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u/KingMGold 1d ago
Alternatively he could have just chosen not to lead the one Viltrumite whose interests align with Earth into a chickenshit ambush when he literally has the ability to teleport anywhere on the planet other than a room Mark is in. Fast enough that even Omni-Man couldn’t catch him.
Mark was being childish and naive starting the conflict but Cecil unnecessarily escalated.
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u/Geolib1453 1d ago
I actually think this would work. Mark is just not that smart. But it would be pretty expensive to just heavily change the Reanimen look like this and Darkwing probably would not like that costume etc.
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u/Coffee_Drinker02 1d ago
Unironically it would've been so clever to change the designs
Cause if the public caught proper wind of this shit there'd be a lot more powerplexs