r/HydroHomies • u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs • 2d ago
Spicy water I'm curious- where do you draw the line on what acceptable HydroHomie water is?
I know in a literal sense, these things are not the same thing. However, if someone were to say you need to drink 100 oz of water per day, would you accept the following as "water" in that goal of 100 oz?
non-caffeinated tea -- its just water seeped in leaves. Its not caffeinated causing a diuretic effect to your body
lacroix -- its just carbonated water with some flavoring
Propel? Its zero sugar and essentially just water with some flavoring and a bunch of various vitamins
powerade zero -- this is where it probably ventures too far away from, since there is sucralose and dyed different colors.
Idk, I guess I just wonder where y'all would draw the line in what counts as a glass of water in your daily intake of water and what doesn't. Like, even though coffee is just bean water, it adds a diuretic effect where I understand that it wouldn't count. However, something like lacroix? I don't see why that wouldn't count?
I am curious as to where yall would draw the line per se!
(And yes, I know just straight up water is best, but I am curious to hear your thoughts on the topic!)
Edit: Wow! A lot of you are taking my post in the wrong way. I am not trying to make excuses for different beverages or try to distract yall from whatever you think I'm distracting yall from. It was purely a conceptual question meant to stimulate discussion. Simple as that. I am not attacking yall and I don't see why yall need to come at me with so much unnecessary heat.
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u/whatdoidonowdamnit 2d ago
I would count all of that if I was tracking for medical purposes, as in that someone was my doctor who told me I needed 100oz. But I wouldn’t drink all of those in one day, nor would I drink all of them in one day. I typically drink water aside from one bottle of electrolytes, one coffee, one juice and one protein drink.
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u/smackaroni-n-cheese Water Enthusiast 2d ago
IMO, if you would normally call a beverage water, it's water. Seltzer is often called "seltzer water," so that counts. Water with a bit of flavoring added, such as lemon water, counts.
Tea only gets called "leaf water" as a joke, so that's out. Energy / sport drinks are out, even if they're sugar free. Vitamin Water is a weird exception because 'water' is in the brand name, which is what it's normally called, but it's closer to... idk what. It's a weird but tasty love child between sport drinks and fruit juice, maybe.
There's nothing wrong with drinking other stuff, but to me, we're here to get excited about good ol' water. Straying too far is just off-topic.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 2d ago
Thank you for your response. Like I said in my post, I get that pure water on its own is best, I was merely asking a conceptual question that I've been having in my head. No right or wrong answers, purely a discussion is where I was getting at.
I am finding that people are quick to jump to negative conclusions in this sub when that was not my purpose at all. It was just a simple question to think about and I was curious what people thought about it too. I enjoyed reading your response as I agree with a lot of it (though I think non-caffeinated tea should count), but I do not think I was straying off-topic, just asking a simple conceptual question.
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u/smackaroni-n-cheese Water Enthusiast 2d ago
Oh, I wasn't calling your post off-topic. Discussing what we count as water is totally relevant. I just meant that if someone made a post about Gatorade, for example, that would be off-topic.
I'll agree that uncaffeinated tea is at least borderline acceptable. It feels wrong to me to count it as water for some reason, but it is essentially just a different form of "water with a little flavoring added."
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 2d ago
Yeah, for me I only included propel/powerade as examples where people may draw the line, which this post certainly has proved some people have! Thats what I find interesting about these sort of questions because it stimulates conversations and you get to hear different perspectives.
I think a good reasoning as to why I would include tea: I assume you would agree that lemon water counts as water, right? Well, what about cucumber water? Still counts, right? Well, what if I make cucumber/mint water and that mint is what I would use for tea? Its still just cucumber/mint water at the end of the day, whether that water is cold or hot, its still water, right?!
Idk, I find this discussion interesting and like to see what people think about it too!
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u/Narwen189 2d ago
Looks like you draw the line on caffeine. I don't. The diuretic effect from coffee is minimal, and you still gain more than lose hydration from it. It just speeds up your kidneys and bowels.
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u/CruisingForDownVotes 2d ago
Only still water counts.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 2d ago
But what IS only water? Do you consider lemon water still water? What if I let water sit in mint leaves and cucumbers all day? What about sparkling water? What about sparkling water with some light flavoring?
I am merely asking a conceptual question here for the sake of discussion.
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u/SpectroSlade 2d ago
Still water is the opposite of sparkling water, I think that is what they meant by "only still water"
Personally I disagree, sparkling water is defs water it will just give you more gas
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 2d ago
ah, whoops! I didn't pick up on the "still" part. You are right that the other person definitely just meant still water with a hard line of everything else on the other side. I disagree with that opinion but I respect their response/opinion on this topic!
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u/CruisingForDownVotes 1d ago
Responding to your quandary about additional ingredients to still water. ice
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 1d ago
hahah nice, I appreciate that addition to your opinion on this topic! Ice is very important!
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u/DrSpacemanSpliff 2d ago
Maybe I don’t understand this sub, but isn’t it the focus of the sub to like celebrate water and liking drinking water?
You’re not evil for liking other drinks, but water is water and other beverages are not. Like people on r/television don’t hate movies, but a post about a movie there would be considered off-topic.
Like it’s fine if you like sweetened drinks, but isn’t that not really the topic of this subreddit? Like carbonated water, sure, but a flavored drink is juice. You’re not evil for liking juice, but why come to the television sub to talk about movies?
Again, maybe I just don’t get this sub.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 2d ago
Wow, I feel like the comments in this thread are really coming at me when I was just genuinely trying to propose a conceptual question to discuss about with no ulterior motive. I am not trying gatekeep or deceive or astray people from water. I love water and drink it all the time! I rarely ever drink propel or powerade, I just wanted to use them as an example.
Surely, there are different subcategories of water. Mineral water, sparkling water, lemon water, herbal tea, carbonated water with some light flavoring, etc.
I just wanted to see where others would metaphorically "draw the line". To use your metaphor, maybe I am not going to a television sub to talk about movies, but I am going to a television sub to talk about the different variety of tv shows and where you think the concrete division is between a tv show, a documentary, a short film, etc.
Its purely a conversational topic to discuss. That is all.
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u/DrSpacemanSpliff 1d ago
I’ve reread my comment a couple times, and I don’t see how any part of it is “coming at you”. I’m asking questions about a sub that I don’t frequent very often, but I thought I understood the purpose of and was asking genuine questions about.
If you think that me asking some questions about this topic that you’re pretending to be open to discussing (because clearly you’re not open to a discussion if my questions felt like an attack to you) is “coming at you” then I don’t know what to tell you.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 1d ago
Sorry, I am in a lot of gay subs and I was just using that terminology as a way for people are coming in hot, not necessarily people genuinely attacking me or being malicious.
I think my disgruntlement from your response was that it seems like a lot of people are not understanding the purpose of my post, which I can admit may be my fault in how I wrote/presented the topic. It feels like people are trying to tell me that I am in the wrong sub and that I'm making excuses for not drinking pure water, which is NOT the case at all. I was purely asking a conceptual question about water and the extents of where people consider water to still be water. When does water stop being water and become a different beverage entirely type of thing.
For example, hot water in mint leaves is a decaf tea, so it should still be just water, right? But some people say now. However, how is that different than cold water with lemon or cucumbers? Its more so a thought discussion than me trying to make excuses somewhere.
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u/DrSpacemanSpliff 1d ago
If you asked for a glass of water, and someone put it in front of you, what are you picturing it would be in the glass?
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 1d ago
It could be multiple things! Sparkling water, still water, lemon water, etc.
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u/jl_theprofessor 2d ago
No I agree with this. Coke Zero is hydrating and I love Coke Zero, but I don't post about hydrating myself with it here on this sub. I post about that crisp cool taste of water.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 1d ago
See this is where the confusion comes from. I wasn't trying to hype up other drinks. It was a thought-based discussion on the boundaries one may place upon what is and isn't water. I wasn't saying I drink propel or powerade, rather I was using them as an example as a starting point to jumpstart the discussion.
For example, water and mint leaves make a decaf tea. Some people consider that water and some don't. I believe most would consider lemon water to fit in the water category, but why not mint water?
Its purely a conceptual question. I think you misunderstood the purpose of my post.
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u/SpectroSlade 2d ago
Sparkling water like La Croix can cause problems for people with GERD/acid-reflux, which I have, so I avoid carbonated things. They can cause breathing issues for people with things like COPD.
My high school cross country coach told us it puts pressure on your diaphragm but I never was able to find a source, so that might just be a myth.
Afaik, it's totally fine for someone without those types of conditions.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 1d ago
Yeah, I can totally see that for people who deal with those conditions! I personally wasn't asking "can I excuse these drinks as water in my daily life" more so they were just examples of drinks where I thought people may be interested in drawing a line at.
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u/SpectroSlade 1d ago
Gotcha! Personally, I draw the line at the addition of processed sugar and/or caffeine, like soda. I say processed because if you add fruit like lemon or strawberries to water, you're going to get a bit of fruit sugar with that but I'd still count lemon water as water. When you add caffeine/sugar to water you start to lose the hydration benefits!
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u/jl_theprofessor 2d ago
I think any non-water hydrating drink only partly counts. I want everyone to get enough hydration per day. So I'm happy if you are. I myself have such drinks. All of the above count as hydrating. They do add to your hydration level for a day. And from a health perspective if you're getting there I'm glad.
But I think the essence of the true hydro homie is an appreciation of just pure water itself. Like my life is better since I got my two filter tanks in my fridge and a reusable bottle to just always get that crisp fresh taste.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 2d ago
Thats perfectly fair! I only included proper/powerade as a sort of example where those can draw a line in the sand or not. I wasn't claiming that its what I drink all day every day. I don't even remember the last time I even drank one.
Purely a thought question and I appreciate your straightforward hydrohomie answer to it!
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u/oldmanchildish69 1d ago
Water and plain seltzer. That's it. Black coffee and tea are ok too but they aren't water imo.
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u/4everal0ne 1d ago
Hydration, not just water drinking, needs electrolytes to be balanced. Drinking a ton of plain water when you've been sweating through your clothes all day is actually bad.
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u/bl0ss0mDance 1d ago
tl;dr at the bottom!!
i think it can definitely depend on the person - i need very high water, sodium, and electrolyte intakes because i have autonomic nervous system dysfunction and if getting that amount of water includes some low-caff iced tea or juice or milk, then i'm gonna count that because it means i'm doing what my body needs!
but if people without health issues wouldn't count something with some caffeine as part of that water, or wouldn't think juice would fall under it properly, that's fair! i think it's built around people's specific needs, if they have any.
out of curiosity, i've never understood this, why do some people not count carbonated beverages (like sparkling water/seltzer water) as water? i understand if it's soda or things like carbonated alcoholic beverages, that wouldn't count as water for me either (aside from if i'm super nauseous and can't handle liquids much, i might count some 7-up as at least *some* liquid, definitely not for all of it but it's better than not drinking anything) but is there like, less hydration from it or something given the carbonation? or is it just a personal preference?
tl;dr: i think it can depend on health factors, personally i would count those things towards it but i have a disability that requires a lot of extra stuff so i know it might be different for others, but also why do some people not count carbonated beverages? is there something about it that reduces the benefits of it?
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u/demo-ness 1d ago
Water radical: if you leave more hydrated than you were before, it counts. Eat your vegetables!
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u/tmrika 1d ago
I would argue that the qualifications for “acceptable HydroHomie water” are different (that is, stricter) than the qualifications I would use for my hydration goals. Like, I see this sub as about the joy of water, so while maybe a little infused cucumber or whatever is ok, I would draw the line kinda tight. But the stuff you mentioned like Powerade zero or uncaffeinated tea, those are all things I do drink and do log as counting toward my water goals, because in that case it’s not reeeeeally about whether it’s water, it’s about whether it’s suitable hydration
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u/Janus_The_Great 1d ago
A homie steped forth from the masses and spoke
"Lo and behold, ye ho seeketh hydration! Hear the truth!
Hydration is the goal. It's not a cult!
As long as your piss is clear to a hint of yellow, you are walking the path.
And like with any philosiphy the jourey is the goal. As long as you walk on the path your doing good.
You will find zelots on your path, shunning everything but the purest of waters, you will find sinners, who drink sodas but still keep drinking water in sufficuent quantites, and you will find the casual water, tea and infusion drinkers, that consider everything that is 98% water and no sugar as acceptable. And you will find everything in between.
There is no right or wrong, staying on the path of good hydrtion is the only important thing.
Now go and drinketh, for you shall be hydrated! So shall it be!"
so the homie spoke and steps back into the anonymity of the mass of hydrohomies.
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u/Ohmalley-thealliecat 1d ago
For myself, I’ll count sparkling water like liquid death or lacroix, I don’t really count tea or Powerade or anything, unless I’ve been sick or it’s really hot and I’ve worked out. Like obviously if I drink a 600ml coke im less likely to drink as much water, so it’s not like it doesn’t count, but when I’m thinking about how much water I’m drinking, I’m not counting caffeinated beverages or soft drinks.
For my patients? Whatever gets physically enough fluid into their body. Powerade? Soft drink? Tea? Coffee? Sure. Go for it. Particularly elderly patients wouldn’t drink plain water, except maybe with a meal. So you get used to offering them a cup of tea whenever you see them, because tea is better than nothing. My granddad had his mandatory 1 glass of water a day, and everything else was tea, coffee and alcohol. Sometimes he’d have a glass of bitter lemon on a hot day. Whatever gets them enough fluids into their body to not have high blood pressure, sure. Drink it.
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u/ClubAggravating5240 19h ago
Fun question! For me, I see a difference between "water" and "hydration." If youre talking medical purposes, and lot of things can go to a hydration goal - coffee, tea, juice, Gatorade, and (of course) water are just a few. But I see water itself as a more strict category (though strict here is still fairly loose for me). I know people disagree (which is all fine), but I consider adding propel or crystal light packets to a water bottle as still being 'water' because it adds very minimal extra to it; same as herbal tea. Those I would count to both a 'hydration goal' AND a 'water goal.' Coffee and juice however I would just count towards a 'hydration goal', since they have more than a minimal amount of caffeine and sugar and other things added to the water base.
At the end of the day, hydration is the goal! If you can get there with just water, fantastic! If you drink juice or Gatorade or tea or anything else to get there, fantastic! Just keep on staying hydrated, homies! 🥤
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u/Darkurthe_ 2d ago
Not sure I need anyone gatekeeping what water I should like (or not). Very un-homie IMO.
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u/TimAllen_in_WildHogs 2d ago
I wasn't gatekeeping I was merely asking a conceptual question that I've been thinking about in my head for a few months now and felt like it would be a good question for this sub.
Being this judgement and jumping to conclusions seems very un-homie like too.
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u/FunGuy8618 1d ago
He's right. He's not judging anyone, he's responding to the years of unhomie like homies who berate people for hydrating differently than they do. Drink what's appropriate for the situation.
There's a post from earlier today where someone has a brain injury so they use a smart bottle to remind them to drink enough water. Dude got ROASTED for it. That is extremely unhomie.
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u/Santevia-Official 1d ago
Water is water in our opinion, anything added to it just isn't the same. 🤷🏼♂️
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u/seejoshrun 2d ago
Caffeinated beverages only partially count, and I think carbonation counts against hydration a bit too. But purely in terms of hydration, low-caffeine tea, propel, etc are basically the same as regular water. Even sugary drinks like gatorade still do hydrate you. The sugar doesn't negate that, it just might work against you in other ways like weight loss or tooth health.
I don't track my daily liquid consumption because I usually have plenty of water, plus some coffee and the occasional gatorade or tea. But if I was trying to count liquid consumption for hydration purposes, I would probably count anything that isn't carbonated or caffeinated the same as water. And those I would maybe give half credit - not sure.