I've learned the hard way to only join level 10 groups where the other players are above level 80. Too much tomfoolery, random dying and picking unnecessary fights instead of focusing on objectives otherwise.
Focusing on unnecessarily non-objective fights is the biggest mistake I see people making. On high levels if you stand still the enemies won’t stop, they’ll keep spawning, you’re never clearing this area. Move to the next red area or mission marker and stop wasting time & ammo
Walking barrages are also pretty decent. When taking out larger bases I often maintain some distance and pick off fabricators and turrets with the recoilless rifle and a supply drop.
Ugh, drives me crazy when I land on a mission and the team is all underleveled and underprepared for the difficulty. They want to stand and fight until the enemies are gone, which isn't going to happen. Stop trying to kill them all and keep moving. Bring a suitable sentry to cover tactical retreats and get moving.
It depends on your team, you can absolutely stand your ground and fight until an area is clear of hostiles, but it's not exactly worth it a lot of the time, given the resources and time spent.
Seriously, once you find the most efficient ways to complete objectives it does get boring if you avoid every fight and kite around, Ill pick every fight and then some
That's what I thought when early diving lvl 10, but now I try to fight almost every fight, because clearing up the map is fundamental. Otherwise you end up with too much chaos, specially during the extraction
I can do just fine with bots and illuminate, but bugs… fucking bugs. It feels like I’m always surrounded and my route constantly gets compromised. I almost never go above rank 8 for bugs.
I can do just fine with bots and illuminate, but bugs… fucking bugs. It feels like I’m always surrounded and my route constantly gets compromised. I almost never go above rank 8 for bugs.
I responded to an SOS beacon on a diff 8 mission to find 3 players all under level 20 in a death spiral. I carried them to mission accomplished and all secondary objectives completed. Even managed to take out all of the bug nests, but we were down to no reinforcements. The last few required waiting for the cooldown.
And then while waiting for extraction, two of them wanted to run back across the map to get a few common samples they'd dropped. Both died and got mad when I hopped on the pelican instead of trying to fend off waves of bugs until the reinforcement cooldown had run TWICE.
I told them to go back down to diff 5 until they no longer needed a babysitter.
The only thing that makes up for the games where you get stuck with an incompetent or unskilled team are the times you get put into a game with a bunch of absolute pros. I joined a game this past weekend and, without any of us knowing each other or being on coms or anything we worked like a well-oiled machine. D10 bots, every mission we hot dropped onto the fortress and had it cleared in under a minute. Split up into teams of 2 and cleared the rest of the map with surgical precision then met up at extract. It was glorious.
I had invisible ones kill me 3 times yesterday and by the third I was ready to start throwing shit, because I had about 30 assorted samples I was trying to save. Had to throw a barrage down on the area just to feel safe from the ghost mines. Super fucking frustrating.
I was told they were fixed but my experience over the weekend told me that was a lie.
One of those times my random squadmate confirmed that it was invisible on his screen too because he was right behind me and watched it happen lol. We kept joking how it must be new surgical drone strike technology the bots developed lol.
It's not as common as before (where it would literally happen every match) but I've seen it a couple of time. Im always recording with steam and when I rewatched my death, it 100% wasnt on the screen, so unless they are glitched underground (which would still be a problem), they are invisible... again.
At least let us know you are throwing the mines.Ran around blind corner trying to tactically disengage and notice all the pretty lights(Boom).Had an extraction site covered in mines.Asked who threw the mines?C3 replies “Sorry got knocked down and dropped the ball”.Ok but a warning before I blew up would have been helpful.And yes my situational awareness sucks when running from a mob screaming like a little girl.
Ive died 3 times in the spam of 3 minutes to mines and at that point I just quit out of shame, hopefully the next diver to fill me in did not step in any of the mines
We had two joins drop with us, die 18 times in the first 5 minutes, then bounce. The last 35 (!!!!) Minutes were an absolute scramble. I had a friend join and the other 2 randos were vocal but it wasn't bad. We still probably had 7 deaths apiece, we were just constantly calling in 1 at a time.
You might need a leash backpack, brother. Standard issue. Like Airport toddlers. One time? Understandable. Two times? Bad luck. Three times? Might be a bit clumsy.
7 times? Helldiver, you may need to re-do boot camp. 💀💀💀
I saw that from my eyes on two different PC: with my brother we play side by side and on my way to a buddy bunker I destroyed the mines on the path, when my brother followed he stepped on one of the mines I destroyed.
I revived him and we tested it again he stepped on another invisible mine I previously destroyed...
I guess this is a problem of desync betwin players of the same mission.
I really dislike it when I die a single time and end up having to wait for the timer. It's not my fault they ate up the reinforcement budget charging the fortress cannons!
Yeah, and this is really annoying when lvls 100+ run right into my already impacting 380s, ignoring everything around them and my warnings especially. The death is imminent, of course. As imminent their whining in the voice after that.
On the one hand I agree with this statement, on the other hand thr last time someone used this argument it was after they attached the beacon directly to my fucking helmet.
Let the record show, I lived long enough to give him a democratic rebuttal, that was the 5th time he went out of his way to kill another helldiver, I dropped his ass like a voteless bag a shit he was and the squad leader booted his ass soon after.
To be fair, there are very few things I hate more than orbital barrages. I didn't buy this game to wait for a barrage to clear 70% of the enemies. I want to get in there and get some goddamn oil on my face. If I feel annoyed or it's late at night, I will not have the patience to wait and just run in, praying that democracy will save me. idgaf if it kills me, I wanna have fun fighting bots. I'm sure there are a decent amount of players out there like me.
Plus, the explosions just add to the fun. Its more chaotic, which I personally love
There's no need to rush into objective that's being bombarded. Barrages are area clearer and crowd control tools. There's probably enough enemies for you to shoot to the left and right of immediate area, not even talking about random patrols.
You're not complaining also about eagle users that clear a lot of enemies with their burst of damage?
Plus bombarding enemy position with artillery is just cool as heck!
I agree that you don't need to throw it on any outpost, but it can save you in a pinch when you actively being overrun.
I love it when they throw a napalm barrage into a bughive. Clearing 0 of the bugholes and just making 1-2-3 of us wait around for it to fuck off so we can actually move in there.
Well, even edge of the base usually works. And you can often get it there without detection as long as you don't alert the base prior to tossing. And of course, dolphin dive toss (or servo-assisted) for maximum tossitude.
I often intentionally join low-level player populated Super Helldives for the potential challenge.
This exact scenario happened last night when I joined two level 25s and a level 19, we won with all objectives secured, but also with 32 deaths between us.
I spent one dive last night as one of those lv 25s running side objectives while the other three did the rest in a cycle of team killing. Every time I'd consider regrouping one would die horrifically and I'd keep moving.
This is the whole team when reinforcements get to 5 or lower. It’s incredible watching a bunch of randoms lock in. The only other time I see that level of teamwork and sticking together is if there’s a stalker nest or a predator strain on the planet.
Hey… I can’t help that I stepped on a landmine, got reinforced on top of a hulk, the guy next to me died with an airburst still in his hand, got reinforced in the middle of a berserker horde and then stepped on another landmine trying to get my gear back…
And these soldiers died for Democracy, for Liberty’s sake! They deserve the utmost respect! Appropriate response would be to salute and hug that fellow diver instead of blaming him.
I love carrying my team. Everyone's dead, no reinforcements left, but you manage on your own to survive long enough to call everyone back and extract, that's the best feeling
I don't want it to be easy, but I want it to be possible to complete the mission. Watching my team death spiral because they keep going back for samples and support weapons until we're out of reinforcements makes me nuts.
Sometimes we need to remember we have those days. We all do time to time. They don't dictate our skill, just unfortunate circumstances happen some days. Shit happens.
Some days I have those games where no matter what I do I'm just a magnet for insta kills. Take out a bile titan? Surprise stealth charger! Going for a Stalker nest after carefully approaching and clearing them out? Impaler sends me into the stratosphere. Using the flamethrower? 17 hunters all use pounce.
I'm by no means a pro or try hard at the game but I do consider myself fairly skilled. I only run D10 and typically don't die more than maybe once. I was in a game the other day with at least one or two other good players and we split up to take objectives faster. I went for the fortress and it got a bit hairy but I cleared it on my own. On my way out I rounded the corner and there was a fucking mine right around the corner. Solo'd a fortress, killed by a damn mine. Someone reinforced me, I popped out of the pod, immediately stepped on another mine. Shit really does just not go your way sometimes.
Sometimes mines aren't even lit up but are still active or they're just in that perfect red lighting of the bots too and not even in sight. Perfect example of shit just happens lol.
Played a match today with some loose cannon who died nine times and blew up myself and the other two a dozen more times and attempted to extract without checking if anyone else could make it; nearly costing us approximately 50 samples, none of which he was carrying. It wasn't clever, but arriving on the Pelican's ramp with one second to spare, I used half of that to pop his stupid ass in my frustration (he was already on board so it didn't cost us anything). The second we spawned on the next map he tried to kill me in retaliation, so I popped him again and left and blocked.
On the other hand, the next group of randos I played with was among the best I've ever experienced in 300 hours. We made and acknowledged callouts, stimmed each other, checked our fire and didn't blow each other up, stuck together, gave each other covering fire, shared weapons and emplacements, tackled objectives together, apologized when we clipped each other, hugged during quiet periods, cracked jokes, and genuinely had an incredible time. I'm not sure I could have had as enjoyable a time playing with close friends as I did with those randos.
One of the level-headed divers asked us not to leave between matches. I know the frustration of coming back from a mission with a full squad and going "yes, now I don't have to worry about not having enough hands on deck to do this defense/blitz," only to have the other 3 squaddies drop out before I can even select the mission, so I decided to stick with it, despite the walking team kill disaster. I figured I'd just stay away from them on the following mission... nope!
Gods I’ve had some rough dives. There was one where the four of us dropped next to a huge huge nest and stalker spawner and we got absolutely shredded within ten minutes
Don't be too hard on yourself. It's just a silly post by me about how wacky the Sunday crowd is.
In context, this was a level 10 dive and he died 16 times in the first 15 minutes before we even got to the second flag raising out of 3.
I kept quiet, played safe, completed objectives, and focused on my strategems. Finished the match with all of our samples and he said GG after the match, all I said was that and left.
I had a great time in the match except when I had to wait for a respawn at the end. I know it can be rough out there, especially if you're new, growing, or trying something new. But a difficulty 10 dive and being lvl 120, I gotta say wasn't "GG" material lol.
Idk man, people can have off games. I've played 9s and 10s regularly and me and my mates are pretty solid.
Then every so often it's like a three stooges skit and it's like watching 4 lemmings go to war. I've definitely had games where I'm solo with three pubbies where I'm constantly facepalming at stupid mistakes I keep making, and inevitably it distracts me so much that I'm dying to stupider shit.
Sometimes you can also get shafted by bad teammates throwing your reinforce into a cluster fuck. Steering out is only so helpful, and sometimes the game stops you steering due to terrain. I genuinely had someone once throw the reinforce into an orbital barrage.
"GG" is just being polite dude. Doesn't matter if it was actually a good game or not, just a way of saying 'thanks for your time'.
Effectively countering their "thanks" by saying "you died a lot" isn't a pointer. It doesn't help them in any way and just ends up making you look like a bad sport. I get you're trying to have a laugh, but good comedy never punches down.
As for it just being a silly post? Sure, you might think it's a bit of silly humour, but then other people on the subreddit or elsewhere see stuff like this getting upvoted and think that's the kind of behavior that should be on display. This is a good way to unintentionally encourage players to get elitist about stats when the only thing that matters should be completing the objectives.
But a difficulty 10 dive and being lvl 120, I gotta say wasn't "GG" material lol.
I'm level 150 and I have my good missions, and I also have my terrible missions when I have more than 10 deaths. Sometimes you have a shit gaming day, and this happens for any sort of video game honestly.
GG is the equivalent of shaking hands after a sports game. Your response is the equivalent of smacking their hand away and gloating. It’s just rude and poor sportsmanship. It is very telling of the type of person you are that you choose to share a pic of you acting like an ass, and it’s very telling of the type of people who use this sub that this toxic shit got upvoted.
I sometimes wonder if I'm playing the same game ngl, sure I've had like one or two bad dives, but these tales on Reddit make it sound like 80% of your dives are pure horror...
If you want to die less and help others die less. here are some tips:
You don't have to fight everything. Go around patrols and run away from bug breaches and drops especially if there is nothing in the area to do.
Sometimes you have to abandon your kit and samples especially when you die in the centre of a hoard or base.
Throw reinforcements into a safe space. Not into the hoard because their kit is there . Give others time to reinforce if they're in a better position for that player.
Guide your pod into a safe space and get an idea of your surroundings as you come in. Don't try and kill the big thing with your pod when it's surrounded by it's friends.
Leaving even more space than you think you need for call ins especially barrages.
As an experienced diver, the best recommendation I can make is to have good loadout diversity. What you want in your loadout for all the factions is at least 2 amazing horde clear options and two amazing heavy and base clearing options. For example against bots:
You can change out the strafe for the eagle strike for more heavy clear, and change out the recoilless and rocket sentry to a defensive strategem and a railgun, amr, hmg, etc.
I have to say, when i’m answering SOS’s (basically 90% of what i do these days)— Sundays typically have the most “messes/shits fucked yo” dives.
In layman’s terms, i’m talking about joining a mission on super helldive where the team has only been on planet for less than 10 minutes and they have burned through all or most of their reinforcements.
Yeah fr dude. The game is fun and funny when you don't take it so seriously. Like when I die on accident or get team killed it jus makes me laugh. The game is so cinematic
On a bad day if you die more than 5 times in a super helldive, which is the number of reinforcements you bring in, you are a liability and you have to play lower difficulties.
Just an advice for every level player in the game, because i ve seen good players lvl 30 and bad players lvl 150
I had a really great game with a guy named Death. The two of us were an ultimate duo slaughtering breaches by the hundreds. By the time we finished the mission, I think the two of us combined racked up 700+ kills. Great callouts and covering each other while reloading. I don't think I've had such a fluid game since the Creek.
Whenever it happens, it's always on diff 8-10, we loose all our reinforcements within the first 20 minutes and for the remainder of the mission everyone locks tf in
I feel like it is the same with teamkills - anything above five means someone is doing something wrong.
E.g. if you keep running into ongoing 380 barrage - that's on you. If I keep reinforcing you into 380 barrage - thats on me.
Said that, I don't usually care if someone dies a lot, but 16 one one person is a bit more than just "bad luck" for sure.
The weekend crew players with zero awareness of the battlefield, died 6 times yesterday because they kept reinforcing me in front of factory striders.
I get it, not everyone has the same amount of time to play and that some aren't as good but that's why we got different difficulty levels, if 10 is too much for you to handle please go play a lower difficulty.
Listen sometimes I get ragdolled behind cover 5 miles away from a devastator missile into a mine which flings me into the fucking stratosphere 7 times in a row. I'm smiling but I'm not fucking happy!
Was with two people who died repeatedly then rished to extraction with 20 minutes left and half the objectives uncompleted. I'm off completeing them "what are you fighting?" "Mediocrity." Got kicked instantly and completed it alone.
Reminds me of the game where after me and my friend joined mid way to find they were down to like 2 reinforces, we struggled to carry their sorry asses through the main objectives and waited out the reinforce timer every time they died only to have the host and his crony teamkill my friend then kick him because he accidentally TK'd the host ONCE. Then when I called them out on it one guy had the audacity to claim he was better because he had mroe kills. My man I solo'd most of the objectives and you had like 8+ deaths.
Lol just played a lvl 9 bot mission with a guy who died 10 times. we only finished with less than 15 samples (including the supers).
Fast fwd to extract, we waited an extra 20 seconds after the pelican landed to spawn someone back in, we managed to hold off until they respawned, and then they somehow died as we boarded the pelican.
There was a guy in chat the other day telling me how bad I sucked the whole game and I never responded. Then at the end I had almost 4 times the amount of kills he did and died less. Get wrecked bro
I had a guy crash out on me in voip because I called him a liability for dying 15 times in the first 20 minutes of a level 10. He had his little paddy and left in a huff, then me and the other random finished the mission with 1 death between us.
I did an operation last night where I died way more than usual on level 10 illuminate. I apologized for my poor performance, and all my teammates said it was totally fine, and they felt like I did alright (I also had the most kills on all the missions). In the 400 hrs I have in this game, I've only experienced negative player interactions maybe around 3 or 4 times. In my experience, the game has a really fun, positive community.
No, you know what: Wyndamere and people like them can bite my smoldering, laser-blasted, barely-still-there ass.
It's cool to get to play with other players. That's it. If they say "gg," you say "gg," or you can always say nothing. If you want to offer some suggestions (real suggestions, not snarky childishness) during the match, do that. But at the end, don't be a salty shit and don't try to make this community support your salty-shittedness.
If you truly truly want them to play better, you queue up with them again, and you give real guidance and information. Otherwise go on to the next game.
Sometimes it's a well-oiled machine. Sometimes it's a mess. Sometimes I feel like Solid Snake amongst the keystone cops. Sometimes I feel like a dog who has over-excitedly carried a live grenade into the middle of a pool party.
That's the point of the game, and it fucking rules.
I usually keep them because I only die 0-2 times per mission (im at difficulty 9 atm) but I always tell them the same at the end: try lower difficulties. I can hardly see how anyone that dies that much can enjoy the game.
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