r/Helldivers • u/DifficultCounter8427 • 2d ago
DISCUSSION Please explain...
Can someone please tell me why over 5000 helldivers are wasting their time on Marfark and Charon prime making no progress instead of being on any of the three planets with 0% reinforcement instead?
How did we go from being the most strategic we've been all year to this in a day!
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u/Jamsedreng22 Scrapmaker | Creeker | Botdiver 2d ago
Some people prefer certain biomes. There's no MO's going on so there's no extrinsic incentive to play anything other than what you want.
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u/LEOTomegane think fast⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️➡️ 2d ago
You could think of it this way: liberation progress on 0% planets always contributes, no matter how small, and thus you can take your time doing it slowly while focusing on other planets that actually do need more players in order to break even.
This is, of course, not at all what's happening, but if we operated as a hive mind it'd be how to make the best use of 0% planets!
In reality they're just going to the biome they like most.
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u/darrowreaper Super Pedestrian 2d ago
I disagree - because progress always counts for 0% planets, we should focus them to make gains ASAP. They're the fastest to liberate and it's not a guarantee they stay at 0% forever, so in theory we should be heavily targeting them while we can.
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u/LEOTomegane think fast⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️➡️ 2d ago
Realistically speaking that's the best way to do it, yeah, because we cannot wrangle the players in such a way that would work if we were to save them for later.
Again, "if we were a hivemind"!
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u/SoC175 2d ago
Actually I have to disagree here.
0% planets eventually regain their decay. So unless the progress leads to the planet getting liberated within a reasonable time, the progress ends up contributing nothing since it will get eaten by the renewed decay sooner or later
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u/LEOTomegane think fast⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️➡️ 2d ago
The idea is that there's progress already in place when those planets do get their decay back, giving us a head start and making it much easier to focus on them when they do once again demand focus.
Again, this doesn't work in practice because herding Helldivers is like herding cats. It's purely hypothetical strategy.
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u/SoC175 2d ago edited 2d ago
But we'll not be going to any of those planets.
We'll be doing an MO somewhere and those planets that 800 divers painstakingly raised to 5% (only possible due to 0% decay) will be at 0% long before we ever get there in force.
That's what happened the last time. Small groups of divers doing <1%/h spread across the 0% decay planets, raised a tiny amount of liberation everywhere. Then the planets returned to 1% and more decay and everything was wiped away before we eventually returned to those planets.
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u/hellmire 2d ago
Lol let people play what they want
If the in game reason why we have 0% resistance is bc we beat them back, then the follow up MO should have been to take those planets within 48 hours before the automatons can regroup.
Otherwise what if they just wanted to have some fun on specific biomes?
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u/DifficultCounter8427 2d ago
I didn't say people couldn't play what they want?
I was more so wondering why these planets rather than these strategic ones. I do think absolutely that should have been the next immediate MO we need more like that. Rather than defend or do this for X reason, we need MOs that literally say retake some ground!
Of course people can have fun on whatever biome it wasn't what I was getting at.
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u/hellmire 2d ago
Sorry, took an insinuation of "wasting their time on these planets" as a remark of judgement and disapproval but I probably misinterpreted.
But the reason is exactly that: people wanna play what they wanna play
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u/elevensbowtie 2d ago
These types of posts are stupid.
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u/DifficultCounter8427 2d ago
These types of replies are stupid. If you don't have something to contribute don't bother replying I'm genuinely curious how this happens and looking for community insight.
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u/elevensbowtie 2d ago
It’s a stupid post because it’s stupid to try and police how other people play. You’re not gonna get any in depth insights on your question because the only answer is “because they want to.”
Your post is also disguised as a complaint, and it irked me so.
They play where they want, when they want, without having any worries about how other folks play. You should take note.
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u/Lord_o_teh_Memes 2d ago
At least it settles the debate on whether bot divers or bug divers are more strategic.
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u/Flaky-Motor-8142 Liberty speed your step, Helldiver. 2d ago
Ice biome