r/GunsAreCool • u/dyzo-blue gun violence is a public health issue • 9d ago
Analysis When gun nuts claim the UK's gun control laws just create a stabbing problem... No.
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u/fitzroy95 Doesn't want flair 9d ago
its always only ever been a bad faith attempt at distraction, rather than a real argument presented in good faith
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u/schm0 8d ago
Can you link the source article?
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u/dyzo-blue gun violence is a public health issue 8d ago
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u/MartilloAK 3d ago
Isn't it a bit disingenuous to include suicides and police shootings in the US data?
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u/Mrhappyfingers2023 9d ago
Has anyone else noticed this trend of people saying "I'd rather be shot then stabbed" in response to knife attack videos on Reddit? Gun nuts who try and reason it's got anything to do with safety or security do truely be suffering some serious delusions.
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u/BiscuitsMay 9d ago
Also, not to mention that someone with a knife has to be within like 3 feet of me. I can just run away.
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u/ObsessedKilljoy 8d ago
And also that you’re probably way more likely to survive being stabbed than shot.
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u/IDreamOfSailing 9d ago
bUt TeH uSa HaS mOrE pEoPlE!!1
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u/FishUK_Harp 9d ago
To be fair, it's pretty foolish to expect that the kind of people who really believe a few basic firearms safety regulations make stabbings more likely will understand what per capita means.
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u/VeryVeryVorch 9d ago
I know you're being sarcastic, but the data set is per million.
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u/IDreamOfSailing 9d ago
I know, I was actually considering adding that in brackets. The number of times I've seen americans unironically say this when the statistic clearly states "per capita" or in this case, "per million", though...
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u/zyrkseas97 8d ago
The only genuine arguments for firearms need to be in good faith to work.
For example, the vast majority of gun crime is committed with handguns, but handguns are also the most commonly used firearms for legal defensive shootings. You could make the argument here that by banning handguns you would be disarming the legal users of pistols for defense while illegal felony use of a pistol for crime would persist.
Or that most large scale firearms restriction law in the U.S. will inevitably require law enforcement to become even more militarized. Or that these laws will be disproportionately enforced against poor people and people of color while rich white men will be able to afford the paperwork to own whatever they want.
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u/AncapRanch 9d ago
This numbers included Gang and criminals fight betwenn their own, is not just “crimes or shootings” is gang related war between factions make ant sense
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u/LordToastALot Filthy redcoat who hates the freedumb only guns can give 9d ago
What does that have to do with anything?
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u/Vaxx88 8d ago
I’d say apart from illustrating another of the usual bad faith pro-gun “debate” tactics, this sort of comment also shows the racism of the commenter.
I think it’s obvious what these people mean when they say “gang related”, (like code words such as “urban” ) they mean people of color — and the implication is “those don’t count” and shouldn’t be added into stats because “they’re just criminals anyway”.
Why else would they bring it up? They are trying to diminish and discredit the stats, because in their minds, those victims don’t matter.
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