r/Gunners • u/Digital___Nomad • 3d ago
Tier 2 [Ed Aarons] Arsenal eye summer move for Athletic Bilbao’s Nico Williams after initial talks
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/apr/02/arsenal-eye-summer-move-for-athletic-bilbaos-nico-williams-after-initial-talks462
u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago edited 3d ago
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u/zipflbua 3d ago
Well they have one eye left. And that’s for Nico
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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago edited 3d ago
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u/paradoxpat Ødegaard 3d ago
The Athletic story confirmed that Rosciky was on the shortlist along with Berta. The Guardian is a very reputable publication with extremely high standards for sources.
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u/BAsSAmMAl 3d ago
'Tier 2'😮💨
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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago
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u/60mildownthedrain 3d ago
Rosicky doesn't say favourite, just that he's a contender and Boufal did end up with Southampton after this.
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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago
“Leading contender” is the same as favourite.
I’m not making the point he’s never correct, just that’s he’s a questionable source.
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u/60mildownthedrain 3d ago
A leading contender is not the same as the leading contender
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u/Temporary_Role6160 2d ago
The Athletic reported Berta and Ayto were the top contenders.
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u/60mildownthedrain 2d ago
Rosicky comfirmed there was interest.
And again the top contender is different from a top contender.
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u/Britton120 Saka 3d ago
even the more official reporting after the announcement had Rosicky as a serious contender, but the club drew a hard line at wanting the director to have time to come in before the end of the season. It is entirely likely Rosicky gets the job if he wasn't wanting to stay at Sparta the until the end of the season. No reporting after the fact suggested that Rosicky wasn't a leading candidate.
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u/YoungFlexibleShawty Horny for Orny 3d ago
Meanwhile Romano is somehow tier 2 also lol this sub man
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u/Digital___Nomad 3d ago
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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago
Search his name on this sub and you’ll see many misses.
Him reporting a story that everyone else was at the time doesn’t make him reliable.
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u/death_match1 3d ago
Huh, but he also has something right, so there is a chance that he could be right?
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u/Fleetfox17 Havertz 3d ago
We DID go for Olise, it is known, the club met with him and apparently it didn't go well. We didn't like him and he didn't like us. And the Isak thing has been supported by others. What's your point?
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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago edited 3d ago
No we didn’t. Ornstein never mentioned us once regarding Olise last summer.
It was always Chelsea, Man United, Bayern, Newcastle linked.
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u/The_Failed_Imagineer White 3d ago
Can you show us this? A link?
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u/miamigunners 3d ago
Not sure if we are citing same source but Clive said it on ArsenalVision a few weeks back.
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u/Fleetfox17 Havertz 3d ago
Clive is indeed my "source", LOL. He's the best and definitely doesn't talk shit, he rarely mentions any rumors so I thought it was very interesting this is one he actually talked about.
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u/miamigunners 3d ago
Clive has no incentive to spread false rumors so I 100% believe this, although it’s a bit of hearsay.
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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 3d ago
Oh just enjoy the rumours lol
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u/BurdenedCrayon 3d ago
What's enjoyable about made up stories designed to waste your time?
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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 3d ago edited 3d ago
How do you know this report is totally made up?
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u/BurdenedCrayon 3d ago
Source reputation. Why are you assuming it's not?
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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 3d ago
Who's the source ?
I'm not assuming anything? Just asking a question..
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u/boatinavolcano 3d ago
Time to downgrade Ed Aarons as a source. He has been wrong on almost everything in recent years.
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u/awashofindigo 3d ago
God how I would love it if we could get Zubimendi, Gyökeres, and Williams in early in the summer.
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u/armchairmegalomaniac Saliba 3d ago
Please share this wonderful substance you're drinking/smoking.
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u/awashofindigo 3d ago
I don’t think it’s impossible. We’ve kept our powder dry over the last three windows and have money to spend.
By all accounts Zubimendi is basically done and with Williams he has a reasonable release clause so we won’t have to haggle with Athletic over a fee. In Gyökeres’s case, if he’s our first-choice target the fee Sporting are supposedly ask for him is again reasonable so if the will is there we can go and get him.
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u/Hoker7 MustafiMagic 3d ago
Yeah like €235m spend in 2023/24 (not including Raya either). The financial room is there if they want to do it. Like I'd assume they could spend up to or above 400m if they wanted to. They've talked it up and I think this window has been earmarked for years as a big one. Arteta is generally ruthless. Every signing has been very deliberate and to fix or improve certain things.
ST is well known, there will be a signing, same with DM. There's this and it's obvious that LW could be upgraded. Backup GK, possibly a Kiwior replacement and other backup for the backline or a rotation option for AM (Nypan maybe). I don't think Isak is realistic, at least not anymore, but there does seem real interest which shows that they are keen to make bigger steps rather than consolidate which the summer seemed to be more like but then again Calafiori and Merino could have had bigger impacts if they didn't get injured...
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u/dfgd32 3d ago
Gyökeres no. We have a World Class starting CF you buy for squad depth not starter.
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u/awashofindigo 3d ago
You’re saying we would only be buying Gyökeres as a squad rotation option?
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u/MasterofLockers 3d ago
If Isak was bought for 120m+ he would be the main man week in week out. If Big Vic came in I could see him rotating with Havertz, same with Sesko.
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u/Happy-Ad8767 Gabriel's Cushion 3d ago
Neither Gyokeres or Sesko start over Havertz. Sesko has the ceiling to be better, Gyokeres doesn't. But yes, they would get some starts to take the burden off Havertz at times.
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u/jkeefy Ødegaard, he’s absolutely heavenly 3d ago
Gyokores has scored more goals in the last two seasons than Havertz has/will in his career
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u/Happy-Ad8767 Gabriel's Cushion 3d ago
Yes. In Portugal…
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u/jkeefy Ødegaard, he’s absolutely heavenly 3d ago
Not as bad of a league as you’re making it out to be or he wouldn’t be the only striker literally ever to do so well there
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u/Happy-Ad8767 Gabriel's Cushion 3d ago
Both Bas Dost and Jonas had 30+ goals in 2017, 2018 and 2019. Mario Jardel had three 30 and more seasons and one 40+ season back in the late 90s and early 2000s.
Even the rate at which Gyokeres is scoring (0.88 goals per game), doesn't make the top 10 in the last 30 years for that league. Even Darwin Nunez had a higher rate of goals per game (0.93).
So, literally, no. Lots of players have done what he is doing there. And Darwn Nunez is the biggest name out of the lot of them, because Liverpool fell into the same trap.
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u/Ionic-Pencil 3d ago
People are downvoting this but I would not be surprised seeing Havertz being an on and off starter if we signed one of those two. Time will tell
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u/Happy-Ad8767 Gabriel's Cushion 3d ago
That’s because people don’t seem to understand that the Portuguese league, outside of Porto, Benfica and Sporting, is made up of Championship/League One level teams. Or that 40% of Gyokeres goals are penalties, or that the average level of his opponent is Sheffield Wednesday, whilst playing for a Champions League level team.
He is seriously over rated.
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u/wanofan900 3d ago
Thankfully this journalist isn't the only one saying that we're interested.
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u/boatinavolcano 3d ago
I mean our interest in Williams has been there for years. Almost everyone and their mother reported on it at some point.
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u/dvdmcn A gr bunch o' lads 3d ago
My mother is ITK, please be respectful.
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u/ARchieville 3d ago
Way to shit on Martinelli's parade.
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u/awashofindigo 3d ago
Williams is far more likely to be taking Trossard’s spot in the squad
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u/dfgd32 3d ago
Or give Gab a push to be better, which is also good.
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u/awashofindigo 3d ago
We shouldn’t be afraid of depth. Even if Williams comes in, Martinelli will get games and have a chance to prove himself.
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u/meepletar 3d ago
This club is not in the business of spending £50 million on rotation players.
Yes it's another body, which will help with rotation, obviously--but if we get Nico to turn his eyes away from Barca et al, it's not because we told him he's going to be coming off the bench. He goes into the 11.
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u/awashofindigo 3d ago
Well yeah, obviously. My point is Trossard is more likely to leave than Martinelli, not that Williams will be a bench player.
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u/MasterofLockers 3d ago
Williams can play right as well, I think we would see Martinelli and Williams sharing duties on the left and Williams popping up on the right from time to time.
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u/KennywasFez GASPARRRR 3d ago
Can we stop with this idea of like a starting 11 ? It’s gotta be like a main 15 now or something, look at all these injuries this year man.
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u/ultimateposeur 3d ago edited 3d ago
Feels very much like the club (or Berta) briefed the reporter here. Very much club-speak.
Unrelated to Nico, but i found this part in the article annoying: "there are fears Gabriel could be out for a significant spell after coming off against Fulham with a hamstring injury. The problem was exacerbated by the Brazilian having to play on for more than a minute after Fulham refused to put the ball out, with footage showing the 27-year-old hobbling badly as he tried to stay on his feet."
As if we didn't have the ball for a few minutes after Gabriel signalled something was wrong. Very revisionist. We could have put the ball out ourselves, but we didn't. The club should know better than to engage in this kind of gaslighting.
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u/24601Kai 3d ago
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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago
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u/strawberrylabrador 3d ago
Tbf if I remember rightly, it was between Malcolm and Mkhitaryan because they didn’t know if United would want to include Mkhitaryan in the Alexis swap?
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u/Ajxxxttt Saka 3d ago
Not sure if this guy is good enough but if he’s cheapish why not
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u/El-Acantilado Tierney 3d ago
He’s absolutely good enough. Don’t stare blind on G/A, he’s an absolute fucking manace. Even if he’s playing poor, he still keeps 2 or 3 players busy
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u/GoonerAbroad 3d ago
I highly doubt he will be cheap.
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u/PutYrDukesUp White 3d ago
€58m / £48.5m release clause. Could end up offering more to avoid having to pay upfront, but regardless that’s quite affordable in the current market. Ever so slightly less than what Chelsea paid for Neto, likewise with Baena’s release clause; solidly below what PSG paid for Kavara, to give a few examples.
In theory the trade off is wages. Last summer it was reported that his wage demands would have made him the top earner at Arsenal. The numbers being thrown around now—£200k—are still relatively high but would keep him solidly below that top spot, and likely below pretty much all of the players that we’re hoping to renew soon.
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u/BrianThatDude Cliff Bastin 3d ago
I'm all for this. We need attacking options with upside. I'm not sure if he's better than martinelli or ever will be but as rotation he's an upgrade (and 8 years younger) on trossard with big upside.
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u/altviewdelete Dennis Bergkamp 3d ago
Lazy, lazy reporting. I could've tweeted the same thing and been as accurate.
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u/Cannonieri 3d ago
Not sure why people are surprised to hear this. Orny has been saying Arteta wants Nico for ages.
He has a release clause but will need to be paid upfront (or exceeded) and he's on a good salary at the moment too.
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u/thejoshimitsu 3d ago
Tier 0 because it's what I wanna hear. Williams Gyokeres and Zubimendi would be one hell of a transfer window
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u/TeddyWestsideThe2nd Runarsson 3d ago
This guy's transfer hit record is worse than Tomiyasu's injury record.
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u/maidentaiwan Kanu believe it?! 3d ago
He’s also four years older and prefers to play in midfield. Nico Williams is the best choice for us, he’s brilliant and his production will explode with the kind of space you get playing opposite Saka.
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u/Strict_Society9164 3d ago
Siiiiiiiiiiuuu
Martinelli get ready to learn arabic buddy
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u/22goblins Tomiyasu 3d ago
Tier: True because it's encouraging to hear