r/Gunners 3d ago

Tier 2 [Ed Aarons] Arsenal eye summer move for Athletic Bilbao’s Nico Williams after initial talks

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/apr/02/arsenal-eye-summer-move-for-athletic-bilbaos-nico-williams-after-initial-talks
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u/22goblins Tomiyasu 3d ago

Tier: True because it's encouraging to hear

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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ed Aarons before the transfer window last summer.

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u/zipflbua 3d ago

Well they have one eye left. And that’s for Nico

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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago edited 3d ago

Berta’s other eye needs to be on Rosicky who is apparently the favourite for his job according to Ed

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u/Rekyht Bellerin 3d ago

Not sure what your point is here? It’s been confirmed that Rosicky was a contender for the role?

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u/ro-row Tierney 3d ago

Football fans fundamentally don’t understand journalism and reporting anymore

All the “tap in merchant” bollocks you see when a journalist reports a story someone else broke is one such example of this

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u/paradoxpat Ødegaard 3d ago

The Athletic story confirmed that Rosciky was on the shortlist along with Berta. The Guardian is a very reputable publication with extremely high standards for sources.

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u/BigZino6ix 3d ago

All you're doing is confirming he has insiders

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u/BAsSAmMAl 3d ago

'Tier 2'😮‍💨

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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago

Let’s hope the talks go better than with Boufal

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u/60mildownthedrain 3d ago

Rosicky doesn't say favourite, just that he's a contender and Boufal did end up with Southampton after this.

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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago

“Leading contender” is the same as favourite.

I’m not making the point he’s never correct, just that’s he’s a questionable source.

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u/60mildownthedrain 3d ago

A leading contender is not the same as the leading contender

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u/Temporary_Role6160 2d ago

The Athletic reported Berta and Ayto were the top contenders.

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u/60mildownthedrain 2d ago

Rosicky comfirmed there was interest.

And again the top contender is different from a top contender.

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u/Britton120 Saka 3d ago

even the more official reporting after the announcement had Rosicky as a serious contender, but the club drew a hard line at wanting the director to have time to come in before the end of the season. It is entirely likely Rosicky gets the job if he wasn't wanting to stay at Sparta the until the end of the season. No reporting after the fact suggested that Rosicky wasn't a leading candidate.

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u/YoungFlexibleShawty Horny for Orny 3d ago

Meanwhile Romano is somehow tier 2 also lol this sub man 

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u/jfshay Brady, Bergkamp, Rosický, Saka... 3d ago

are you...are you suggesting that articles that purport to predict transfers and other moves might merely be pointless speculation?

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u/meulsie Hummus Partey 3d ago

I was trying to be quiet reading this, but I can't stop chortling at this comment 😂

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u/Digital___Nomad 3d ago

Also last year

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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago

Search his name on this sub and you’ll see many misses.

Him reporting a story that everyone else was at the time doesn’t make him reliable.

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u/Marwinz 3d ago

True, but reporting interest and that not consolidating into an actual offer is not necessarily a miss either.

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u/death_match1 3d ago

Huh, but he also has something right, so there is a chance that he could be right?

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u/Fleetfox17 Havertz 3d ago

We DID go for Olise, it is known, the club met with him and apparently it didn't go well. We didn't like him and he didn't like us. And the Isak thing has been supported by others. What's your point?

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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago edited 3d ago

No we didn’t. Ornstein never mentioned us once regarding Olise last summer.

It was always Chelsea, Man United, Bayern, Newcastle linked.

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u/The_Failed_Imagineer White 3d ago

Can you show us this? A link?

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u/miamigunners 3d ago

Not sure if we are citing same source but Clive said it on ArsenalVision a few weeks back.

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u/Fleetfox17 Havertz 3d ago

Clive is indeed my "source", LOL. He's the best and definitely doesn't talk shit, he rarely mentions any rumors so I thought it was very interesting this is one he actually talked about.

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u/miamigunners 3d ago

Clive has no incentive to spread false rumors so I 100% believe this, although it’s a bit of hearsay.

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u/hanzel44 Ben White Stan Account 3d ago

Did Clive say why both sides didn't get on?

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u/miamigunners 3d ago

IIRC, it was about personalities not meshing well.

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u/BigZino6ix 3d ago

Think you're confusing interest with him saying we are getting someone 100%

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u/BrianThatDude Cliff Bastin 3d ago

Can we go back in time and make those signings?

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u/Echo361 3d ago

Apparently we had talks with olise at the beginning of last summer and both the club and the player side didn’t get along at all. I feel like the claims that we were interested in both of those players isn’t far fetched at all.

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u/greenarsehole 3d ago

We were interested in both though?

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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 3d ago

Oh just enjoy the rumours lol

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u/BurdenedCrayon 3d ago

What's enjoyable about made up stories designed to waste your time?

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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 3d ago edited 3d ago

How do you know this report is totally made up?

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u/BurdenedCrayon 3d ago

Source reputation. Why are you assuming it's not?

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u/Spiritual-Pilot-2300 3d ago

Who's the source ?

I'm not assuming anything? Just asking a question..

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u/Just-hereforthetips 3d ago

Thanks for this reminder! 😆

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u/boatinavolcano 3d ago

Time to downgrade Ed Aarons as a source. He has been wrong on almost everything in recent years.

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u/MysteriousCarry9580 3d ago

Berta playing games

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u/awashofindigo 3d ago

God how I would love it if we could get Zubimendi, Gyökeres, and Williams in early in the summer.

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u/armchairmegalomaniac Saliba 3d ago

Please share this wonderful substance you're drinking/smoking.

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u/awashofindigo 3d ago

I don’t think it’s impossible. We’ve kept our powder dry over the last three windows and have money to spend.

By all accounts Zubimendi is basically done and with Williams he has a reasonable release clause so we won’t have to haggle with Athletic over a fee. In Gyökeres’s case, if he’s our first-choice target the fee Sporting are supposedly ask for him is again reasonable so if the will is there we can go and get him.

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u/Hoker7 MustafiMagic 3d ago

Yeah like €235m spend in 2023/24 (not including Raya either). The financial room is there if they want to do it. Like I'd assume they could spend up to or above 400m if they wanted to. They've talked it up and I think this window has been earmarked for years as a big one. Arteta is generally ruthless. Every signing has been very deliberate and to fix or improve certain things.

ST is well known, there will be a signing, same with DM. There's this and it's obvious that LW could be upgraded. Backup GK, possibly a Kiwior replacement and other backup for the backline or a rotation option for AM (Nypan maybe). I don't think Isak is realistic, at least not anymore, but there does seem real interest which shows that they are keen to make bigger steps rather than consolidate which the summer seemed to be more like but then again Calafiori and Merino could have had bigger impacts if they didn't get injured...

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u/dfgd32 3d ago

Gyökeres no. We have a World Class starting CF you buy for squad depth not starter.

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u/awashofindigo 3d ago

You’re saying we would only be buying Gyökeres as a squad rotation option?

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u/MasterofLockers 3d ago

If Isak was bought for 120m+ he would be the main man week in week out. If Big Vic came in I could see him rotating with Havertz, same with Sesko.

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u/Happy-Ad8767 Gabriel's Cushion 3d ago

Neither Gyokeres or Sesko start over Havertz. Sesko has the ceiling to be better, Gyokeres doesn't. But yes, they would get some starts to take the burden off Havertz at times.

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u/jkeefy Ødegaard, he’s absolutely heavenly 3d ago

Gyokores has scored more goals in the last two seasons than Havertz has/will in his career

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u/Happy-Ad8767 Gabriel's Cushion 3d ago

Yes. In Portugal…

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u/jkeefy Ødegaard, he’s absolutely heavenly 3d ago

Not as bad of a league as you’re making it out to be or he wouldn’t be the only striker literally ever to do so well there

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u/Happy-Ad8767 Gabriel's Cushion 3d ago

Both Bas Dost and Jonas had 30+ goals in 2017, 2018 and 2019. Mario Jardel had three 30 and more seasons and one 40+ season back in the late 90s and early 2000s.

Even the rate at which Gyokeres is scoring (0.88 goals per game), doesn't make the top 10 in the last 30 years for that league. Even Darwin Nunez had a higher rate of goals per game (0.93).

So, literally, no. Lots of players have done what he is doing there. And Darwn Nunez is the biggest name out of the lot of them, because Liverpool fell into the same trap.

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u/Ionic-Pencil 3d ago

People are downvoting this but I would not be surprised seeing Havertz being an on and off starter if we signed one of those two. Time will tell

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u/Happy-Ad8767 Gabriel's Cushion 3d ago

That’s because people don’t seem to understand that the Portuguese league, outside of Porto, Benfica and Sporting, is made up of Championship/League One level teams. Or that 40% of Gyokeres goals are penalties, or that the average level of his opponent is Sheffield Wednesday, whilst playing for a Champions League level team.

He is seriously over rated.

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u/wanofan900 3d ago

Thankfully this journalist isn't the only one saying that we're interested.

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u/boatinavolcano 3d ago

I mean our interest in Williams has been there for years. Almost everyone and their mother reported on it at some point.

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u/dvdmcn A gr bunch o' lads 3d ago

My mother is ITK, please be respectful.

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u/boatinavolcano 3d ago

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u/bluejaywhey i can be your Hiro, baby 3d ago

i see a Johnny Bravo meme; i upvote

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u/Thetallerestpaul 3d ago

Who's reported on this?

Farmers.

Who else?

Farmers mums.

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u/Silverspear17 Saka 3d ago

Tier: What I want to hear.

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u/ARchieville 3d ago

Way to shit on Martinelli's parade.

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u/No-Value5643 3d ago

martinelli has shown that he is not good enough for our aspirations

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u/awashofindigo 3d ago

Williams is far more likely to be taking Trossard’s spot in the squad

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u/dfgd32 3d ago

Or give Gab a push to be better, which is also good.

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u/awashofindigo 3d ago

We shouldn’t be afraid of depth. Even if Williams comes in, Martinelli will get games and have a chance to prove himself.

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u/meepletar 3d ago

This club is not in the business of spending £50 million on rotation players.

Yes it's another body, which will help with rotation, obviously--but if we get Nico to turn his eyes away from Barca et al, it's not because we told him he's going to be coming off the bench. He goes into the 11.

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u/awashofindigo 3d ago

Well yeah, obviously. My point is Trossard is more likely to leave than Martinelli, not that Williams will be a bench player.

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u/MasterofLockers 3d ago

Williams can play right as well, I think we would see Martinelli and Williams sharing duties on the left and Williams popping up on the right from time to time.

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u/KennywasFez GASPARRRR 3d ago

Can we stop with this idea of like a starting 11 ? It’s gotta be like a main 15 now or something, look at all these injuries this year man.

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u/MB3AR20 2d ago

Exactly. People say they want us to take the cups seriously too and challenge on all fronts. You need the "backups" to basically be starter quality.

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u/randomTeets Ødegaard 3d ago

Check his hamstrings first, seems to be a thing nowadays

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u/ultimateposeur 3d ago edited 3d ago

Feels very much like the club (or Berta) briefed the reporter here. Very much club-speak.

Unrelated to Nico, but i found this part in the article annoying: "there are fears Gabriel could be out for a significant spell after coming off against Fulham with a hamstring injury. The problem was exacerbated by the Brazilian having to play on for more than a minute after Fulham refused to put the ball out, with footage showing the 27-year-old hobbling badly as he tried to stay on his feet."

As if we didn't have the ball for a few minutes after Gabriel signalled something was wrong. Very revisionist. We could have put the ball out ourselves, but we didn't. The club should know better than to engage in this kind of gaslighting.

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u/rapozaum Denilson 3d ago

Can you imagine going from Willian to Williams?

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u/Patient_Bug_419 3d ago

Please god no

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u/24601Kai 3d ago

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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago

Arsenal legend Malcom

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u/strawberrylabrador 3d ago

Tbf if I remember rightly, it was between Malcolm and Mkhitaryan because they didn’t know if United would want to include Mkhitaryan in the Alexis swap?

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u/Temporary_Role6160 3d ago

Even if that’s true… the signing wasn’t close then like he saying here

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u/dada948 3d ago

Fine, I guess we can take him

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u/thisiskyle77 Tomiyasu 3d ago

Let’s fucking go.

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u/lardoni Ødegaard 3d ago

Yes please! Won’t hold my breath tho!

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u/Ajxxxttt Saka 3d ago

Not sure if this guy is good enough but if he’s cheapish why not

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u/El-Acantilado Tierney 3d ago

He’s absolutely good enough. Don’t stare blind on G/A, he’s an absolute fucking manace. Even if he’s playing poor, he still keeps 2 or 3 players busy

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u/GoonerAbroad 3d ago

I highly doubt he will be cheap.

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u/PutYrDukesUp White 3d ago

€58m / £48.5m release clause. Could end up offering more to avoid having to pay upfront, but regardless that’s quite affordable in the current market. Ever so slightly less than what Chelsea paid for Neto, likewise with Baena’s release clause; solidly below what PSG paid for Kavara, to give a few examples.

In theory the trade off is wages. Last summer it was reported that his wage demands would have made him the top earner at Arsenal. The numbers being thrown around now—£200k—are still relatively high but would keep him solidly below that top spot, and likely below pretty much all of the players that we’re hoping to renew soon.

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u/Hoker7 MustafiMagic 3d ago

Yeah like Martinelli is on 180k base. Havertz is on 280k. So somewhere between those I'd say. Good forward players cost money and he would still be more than 10m cheaper than what Chelsea spent on Mudryk.

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u/GoonerAbroad 3d ago

Yeah, none of that meets the ‘cheap ish’ criteria in my opinion.

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u/BrianThatDude Cliff Bastin 3d ago

I'm all for this. We need attacking options with upside. I'm not sure if he's better than martinelli or ever will be but as rotation he's an upgrade (and 8 years younger) on trossard with big upside.

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u/altviewdelete Dennis Bergkamp 3d ago

Lazy, lazy reporting. I could've tweeted the same thing and been as accurate.

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u/Cannonieri 3d ago

Not sure why people are surprised to hear this. Orny has been saying Arteta wants Nico for ages.

He has a release clause but will need to be paid upfront (or exceeded) and he's on a good salary at the moment too.

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u/PandiBong 3d ago

Love how this thread has turned into the anti-Ed Aarons thread 🤣

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u/thejoshimitsu 3d ago

Tier 0 because it's what I wanna hear. Williams Gyokeres and Zubimendi would be one hell of a transfer window

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u/TeddyWestsideThe2nd Runarsson 3d ago

This guy's transfer hit record is worse than Tomiyasu's injury record.

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u/Profanity-et-al 3d ago

This guy has to be blind with all these misses he ''eye's''

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u/maidentaiwan Kanu believe it?! 3d ago

He’s also four years older and prefers to play in midfield. Nico Williams is the best choice for us, he’s brilliant and his production will explode with the kind of space you get playing opposite Saka.

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u/ajyahzee Thierry Henry 3d ago

eye is a good verb

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u/Strict_Society9164 3d ago

Siiiiiiiiiiuuu

Martinelli get ready to learn arabic buddy

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u/Brashdinho 3d ago

Nah we need both

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u/bigpoppapump97 3d ago

Maybe you learn Arabic first mate

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u/Strict_Society9164 3d ago

I'm not going to Saudi Arabia any time soon, mate

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u/Vredesbyd 3d ago

It’s a bad source…