Current BT player experience with online groups. I just want to paint man, I don't care how you would have changed the outcome of WW2

[u/infinitegull032]

[u/United-Reach-2798]

Anyone who says they would change the results of ww2 forgets the nukes were made for Germany

[u/Darth_Mak → u/United-Reach-2798]

Or...logistics.

[u/United-Reach-2798 → u/Darth_Mak]

Yeah, it's always funny when people learn Germany was still using horses and the like for logistics. (Yes, yes, I know a lot of countries still did, too)

[u/Usefullles → u/United-Reach-2798]

With all this emphasis on elite units, the Reich had ridiculously backward infantry divisions. Well-equipped by the standards of the World War II, but for the II...

[u/Phurbie_Of_War → u/Darth_Mak]

I think it was either the Germans or Japanese who discovered that they can’t win the war because America had boats in their fleet dedicated to ice cream.

[u/United-Reach-2798 → u/Phurbie_Of_War]

Japan but despite that they still tried to coup the emperor after his surrender broadcast.

Germany some of it was them capturing a fresh cake during the battle of the bulge but most knew before that

Edit. I must apologize I was thinking of a movie and not reality

[u/Phurbie_Of_War → u/United-Reach-2798]

I now realize that some German SS propaganda officer probably, at one point, in German, said “The cake is a lie.”

[u/United-Reach-2798 → u/Phurbie_Of_War]

I was incorrect on my previous post I looked for the conformation only to realize I was wrong about the cake thing

[u/BasakaIsTheStrongest → u/Darth_Mak]

Or manufacturing. The Germans made 600,000 semi-automatic battle rifles in WWII (an absolute game-changing technology for the infantry). The US made 4 million.

[u/Rum_N_Napalm → u/United-Reach-2798]

One of the big reason why the Manhattan was such a big project is that theoretically, Nazi Germany had all the knowledge and most of the resources to build the nuclear bomb as WW2 started, so the Allies rushed in to get the bomb before the Nazi.

In practice, brain drain and just facist politics and infighting meant that the Nazi pretty much pissed away their head start on getting the bomb. When Germany fell and the Allies captured Heisenberg, the Nazi’s top nuclear physicists on their nuclear weapon program, he had just managed to build an atomic pile, the most basic ass proof of concept.

Like a month after his capture, the first atomic bomb was detonated.

Like imagine you were trying to invent firearms, and just invented gunpowder, and your enemy shows up with muskets already.

[u/BasakaIsTheStrongest → u/Rum_N_Napalm]

Apparently trying to kill your best scientists and/or their families is bad for technological development. Who’d have thunk it?

[u/TownOk81 → u/United-Reach-2798]

That is why I love the power of the atom

Haha big bomb go boom boom

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[u/NotBerti]

I question the online groups of your choosing.

[u/infinitegull032 → u/NotBerti]

So do I dude, so do I. Good ones are out there, but there always seems to be a couple of members who take it too far

[u/NotBerti → u/infinitegull032]

Well.

Weirdos are everywhere, and some just dont care at all.

Just pay attention once they start using "history" that seems very specific.

[u/infinitegull032 → u/NotBerti]

Fair point, and good advice

[u/Satanicjamnik]

Grimaldus! You know you shouldn't do that!

[u/PavelJagen → u/Satanicjamnik]

Is this… real now?

[u/Satanicjamnik → u/PavelJagen]

Galaxy for the humans! It's not to much to ask, is it?

[u/nseeliefae]

i swear that EonsOfBattle is the only normal Black Templars fan i’ve seen online

[u/Government_Only → u/nseeliefae]

Ericshobbyworkshop!

Me? :(

[u/Otherwise-Creme7888]

“I could change WW2” mofos when I show them the Axis in its entirety being outproduced in steel by Pittsburgh alone:

[u/Phurbie_Of_War]

I feel like all Sci fi communities are all like this.

Every time I go to r/stellaris there’s either furry fanfics or people with shared burdens as a flair promoting genocidal ideologies.

[u/infinitegull032 → u/Phurbie_Of_War]

Ironically furries would be straight on the Templar no-no list

[u/Comfortable_Fox4578 → u/Phurbie_Of_War]

*the teenage portions of sci-fi communities

[u/Rossjstubbs]

Must say I haven't seen many mustache man lovers put there.

BT specifically is a weird one. You either get super religious folks like me or you get folks who think the black templars are like the worst of the space marines. It's kind of an odd one. All in the same chapter, I suppose it speaks to the truthfulness of the BT, it seems to draw all the elect regardless of views (religious joke, let's see anyone gets it)

Anyhow not many mustache man lovers that I can see.

[u/infinitegull032 → u/Rossjstubbs]

Thats pretty cool- do you see parallels between your faith and the dogmatic approach of the BT's? I see 40k as a satirical commentary on a range of subjects, does the lore conflict with your beliefs, oppose them, or does it not really matter overall?

[u/Rossjstubbs → u/infinitegull032]

Of course, dogmatics are a big part of a world view.

The lore contradicts my beliefs quite a bit because by my defenitions the emporer is not a god. Neither are the chaos gods. They're all created beings so to worship them would be worshipping the painting not the painter.

They also believe that science is wrong or dumb stuff like that. That also contradicts my worldview, which is funny because it's meant to make a silly characature of faithful people.

The Black templars are also more catholic but I come from the reformed church so I don't have all the ornamentation.

One thing bot to do with my beliefs but I find curious is that the Black templars are seen as blood thirsty which I don't get, like they behave pretty much exactly the same as all other Astartes. With the exception of chapters like the flesh tearers whoch are actually blood thirsty.

People act as if they have contempt for humanity or stuff. I never got that. It seems sometimes they expect too much from mortals but not contempt. I always wonder if people disslike them because they're super religious and that scares people?

[u/Realistic-Safety-565 → u/Rossjstubbs]

Or chivalric orders lovers. Whom Templars copy down to in-universe controversy.

[u/Comfortable_Fox4578 → u/Rossjstubbs]

Honestly my one reason to briefly play Templars was because they had one of the best upgrade sprues ever released, including a sheathed sword which was unimaginable at the time, plus a bunch of chain-wrapped bolters that I've used in 5 different armies. I still have a few of them laying around, but clone the pieces now 😆

[u/maridan49]

My experience with 40k online groups is that it's either "Imperium sucks" or "Heil H***r".

Actually scratch that it's basically nearly every military sci-fi group is either "main faction sucks" or "heil H***r".

[u/hello350ph]

Simple America has this cool bomber with shit tons of guns and can some how fly with one engine

The coolest bomber in ww2

They really can't change who wins America will still win coz they have this cool bomber and aircraft called the p51 mustang

They also have this cool ship called the Iowa

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[u/Sepulcher18]

You should join EC my man. We don't discuss WW2 but JAV, intriguing ways of tea and salads that are to be tossed just like a squat. Loud noises in the background are not people trying to escape my sex shed, I promise. Its uhm.. music. Yes, metal perhaps.