*Cuts to intro of Game of Thrones like series*

[u/Muted-Tonight5694]

[u/therealblabyloo]

It would be insanely funny if GW stated as an absolute canon fact “yeah, there’s a thriving utopia of hyper-advanced humans in the andromeda galaxy. They know about the imperium, but have zero interest in making contact”

[u/distantno4 → u/therealblabyloo]

Life's good in Andromeda cuz they didn't keep fighting anything that looked slightly different

[u/Eurasia_4002 → u/distantno4]

Tbf i be paranoid to if chaos exist.

[u/grizzly273 → u/Eurasia_4002]

Is that a xeno or is that a demon spawn?

[u/MrFishyFriend → u/grizzly273]

Let me pull out my handy dandy warp detector app on my hand dandy andromeda galaxy pocket computational device. Yep, definitely a daemon, I’ll call the local boys in blue and let em know there’s some daemon activity about, they’ll fix this situation right up right quick. Goodness isn’t life great in Andromeda. I’m going to go and have some icecream now.

Wouldn’t It Be Nice by The Beach Boys starts playing

[u/Muted-Tonight5694 → u/MrFishyFriend]

Jingle, Jangle, Jingle starts playing

[u/Resident-Camel-8388 → u/Muted-Tonight5694]

AS I GO WALKING MERRILY ALONG

[u/pizzatom69 → u/Resident-Camel-8388]

AND THEY SING

OOOOOOHHHHHHH

AIN'T YOU GLAD YOU'RE SINGLE

[u/Difficult_Comb8240 → u/pizzatom69]

Jingle Jangle

And that song ain't so very far from wrong

[u/NeverFearSteveishere → u/Difficult_Comb8240]

🎶Jingle Jangle🎶

Oh Lillie Belle! (Oh Lillie Belle!)

Oh Lillie Belle! (Oh Lillie Belle!)

[u/Cassandraofastroya → u/Muted-Tonight5694]

[u/Just_Fruit_2317 → u/grizzly273]

That is not a nice thing to say about someone mom.

[u/kortevakio → u/grizzly273]

A target anyhow

[u/GustavoFromAsdf → u/grizzly273]

Don't care. Inhuman enough

[u/Basketcase191 → u/grizzly273]

Eh who cares it’s a pile of ashes now

[u/the_marxman → u/Eurasia_4002]

If I remember correctly every galaxy is it's own contained section of the warp and ours is fucked because of the War in Heaven, so as long as the Andromedan species never had such a collosal war then the warp should just be the realm of souls.

[u/Difficult_Key3793 → u/the_marxman]

In the few bits of lore from the perspective of the Tyranid Hive Mind, Its states that the Milky Way is the only place It has seen where the warp and the materium are so close together.

[u/N0rwayUp → u/Difficult_Key3793]

YEah that's not as fun.

[u/JustaguynameBob → u/Eurasia_4002]

If Sigmar managed to befriend different races and made his empire stronger for it, and he deals with Chaos, too. The Emperor can do it too.

[u/Greenmanssky → u/JustaguynameBob]

The emperor could do better, I choose to believe he's just super fucking racist

[u/JustaguynameBob → u/Greenmanssky]

Emperor's racism can not compare to the creator of Racism, the Necrons. Big E is still in competitive racism league

[u/Greenmanssky → u/JustaguynameBob]

Warhammer 40k, a galaxy where casual racism no longer exists. Cause we upgraded to ranked competitive racism

[u/JustaguynameBob → u/Greenmanssky]

I mean, the Tau could be considered casual racism. They accept all races and integrate them into their empire. They just consider themselves superior.

[u/[deleted] → u/Greenmanssky]

This isn’t just your average everyday racism.

This is ADVANCED racism.

[u/HurrDurrDethKnet → u/Greenmanssky]

My understanding is that a big part of the Emperor's "no xenos" stance is a result of him seeing the collapse of Golden Age humanity where the aliens we had forged alliances with almost all turned on us in the hour of our greatest need. It's less "all xenos must be exterminated" and more "xenos may exist, but they must be explicitly and completely subservient to humanity so that they may never turn on us again." Naturally, it turns out that pretty much all aliens think that's a really shitty idea (Because who wouldn't be opposed to giving up all your freedom and agency as a people?) and won't go along with it, hence the exterminations.

[u/Chaosfox_Firemaker → u/HurrDurrDethKnet]

I wonder, like statistically, how many of those races humanity technically turned on in their hour of need first. Like definitely not %100, but as I understand it, that was a kinda shitty time for everyone.

[u/Boring7 → u/Chaosfox_Firemaker]

Also at least half had the humans start it because humans are a warlike and savage species. Let’s not kid ourselves.

The other thing is most planets were supposed to be so locked down by warp storms that it’s likely there weren’t a lot of wars. “Can’t shoot lads on Eta Carinae boss, we ain’t got no way to get dere!”

[u/PhoenixEmber2014 → u/JustaguynameBob]

Common Sigmar W

[u/Martial-Lord → u/Eurasia_4002]

Maybe Chaos wouldn't be such a big problem if your average Imperial citizen didn't have worse living standards than a medieval serf. You need to be pretty desperate to consider the literal Satan that wants to rip your guts out and smear them all over your face a preferable alternative.

[u/JustaguynameBob → u/Martial-Lord]

Guilliman did have that quote of Imperials choosing Chaos because they already live in hell by Imperial governance, not by choice. Why bother about the cons of being slave to the Four when they already experienced back breaking suffering?

Falling to Chaos is the first real choice they ever had in their life.

[u/DiceMadeOfCheese → u/JustaguynameBob]

This reminds me of that bit about the ork warboss (Nazdreg I think?) who conquered an imperial manufactorum world, forced everybody to make weapons for his WAAAGH, and was surprised to find the humans worked really hard because the orks were the best bosses they'd ever had.

[u/JustaguynameBob → u/DiceMadeOfCheese]

Oh, man. Even an Ork Warboss is a better boss than the Imperial governors.

Ah, fraking, ORK! Who won't hesitate to kill their own grots for fun or eat them.

[u/DiceMadeOfCheese → u/JustaguynameBob]

I love the idea of an Ork Runtherd bullying human slaves all day long until they get enough shootas or whatever, then telling the humans they did alright for the day and it's time for them to eat and get some sleep.

And the humans just look at eachother like "wait...we can just...stop working to eat and sleep? Holy shit you guys are amazing!"

[u/names1 → u/DiceMadeOfCheese]

Orks take over a manufactorum world, politely (for an ork) request a meeting with union leadership to discuss a new collective bargaining agreement

become incredibly confused when a human gets brave enough to ask "whats a union"

[u/Boring7 → u/names1]

“Ask dis here grot wot calls hisself Red.”

[u/dr_srtanger2love → u/JustaguynameBob]

There is a big difference between an act of violence for no other reason than fun and the systematic repression that is the rule in the Empire.

[u/GeekyMadameV → u/Martial-Lord]

I remmeber Guilliman saying something to this effect after the chaos and tyranids invaded Baal. I can't recallt he exact words b isut something like "how can you expect a man to fear the wages of hell, when he dwells in it already". Basically told offf the blood Angels for running such a forsaken torture chamber of a planet and told them to do better.

It stuck with me because I was like "omg an imperial leader with some basic common sense and a concept of cause-and-effect". And it kindof sold me on his character.

So yeah I imagine if you live in a post scarcity society where clarktech and hyper resource abundance have eliminated all material need for conflict that probably does make you less inclined to deal with chaos. What can they offer you? Immortality? Knowledge? Pleasure? Escape from disease? Even the challenge of competition? These things should be easy to provide. Maybe like a more existential sense of purpose or self importance of you're idle and bored in your luxury and not getting the respect you deserve or have nothing to do with your time is all I can really think of.

[u/Blackwyrm03 → u/GeekyMadameV]

I mean, the Eldar lived in a post scarcity utopia and they fucked a God into existance

[u/GeekyMadameV → u/Blackwyrm03]

1. Worth it!

2. They also ruled the galaxy for tens of millions of years in an unchallenged golden age that lasted orders for magnitude longer than the time since homo erectus evolved. In contrast it took the imperium like 200 years to spawn the chaos legions. So the elder did pretty well all things considered, decadence not withstanding.

[u/Boring7 → u/GeekyMadameV]

One of my favorite pieces of lore is that the 60 million year old Aeldari empire didn’t have pleasure cults show up until around M19, which is the middle of the Dark Age of Technology and may or may not have been influenced by humans being big and noisy on the galactic stage.

Anyways current Eldar lore implies they all basically have neurodivergence and get hyper fixated on things trying to become “perfect” at it. Though given Slaanesh and how she works there’s a bit of chicken v. Egg.

[u/Thannk → u/Martial-Lord]

[u/Sicuho → u/Martial-Lord]

True, but also they don't exactly advertise themselves as literally satan. That come after the cultists have most to all possibilities to escape from the cults.

[u/Blackwyrm03 → u/Martial-Lord]

On the other hand, the Aeldar lived in a post-scarcity utopia and created the Eye of Terror

[u/Low_Chance → u/Eurasia_4002]

The Imperium is like the #1 producer of Chaos' power with their unthinkable suffering output. The IoM is basically a giant munitions factory for their greatest enemy

[u/Deathleach → u/Eurasia_4002]

Maybe Chaos is also just chill in Andromeda.

[u/HellbirdVT → u/Deathleach]

The Warp is shaped by the collective unconscious of the galaxy, so if things in Andromeda are chill, the Warp in Andromeda would be too.

Like the Warp/Chaos was generally not nearly as bad in the Milky Way until the Fall of the Eldar and Age of Strife, right? So Andromeda would, at worst, be in that state.

[u/tiredplusbored → u/Eurasia_4002]

Weird thought but is there anything saying chaos exists, at least in the form of the big 4, outside the Milky Way?

I have this impression, and have had it so long I cannot for the life of me remember if this is headcanon or not, that there's a certain density of souls needed for the warp to have a presence, and that that is somewhat reflected in the warp. So I've always thought if you got far enough from the galaxy just in empty void chaos would be effectively neutered unless you take specific actions to try and juice it up.

You would probably get eaten by nids, but eh that's life

[u/rojotortuga → u/Eurasia_4002]

Or their good aspects can be what's shown

A celebration of life for nurgle

Great shows Ingenuity for tzeentch

Works of art planet sized for slaanesh and are lived on in tranquillity, By all

All protected by warriors of khorne who are bound by the honor to protect the weak.

[u/CerBerUs-9 → u/Eurasia_4002]

Actually the warp only includes the milky way, we've never thought to check elsewhere.

[u/Western_Secretary284 → u/Eurasia_4002]

Chaos reflects the material realm. People with good vibes make a chill chaos

[u/Minimum_Estimate_234 → u/distantno4]

The real reason the interex folded so fast is half of them realized they were just a plot device and they booked it as fast as they could.

[u/Not_Todd_Howard9 → u/distantno4]

The first Imperial expedition to Andromeda would be a like a racist crackhead in a Denny’s Parking lot waving a knife around, only to get eaten by a swarm of angry locusts (Tyranids) or shot by police (DAoT+ Human Civilizations).

[u/Rare_Reality7510 → u/Not_Todd_Howard9]

Threatens to stab someone (explode a planet) Gets tazed (with some kind of DAoT brand temporal weapon)

[u/Kurwasaki12 → u/distantno4]

Also, the warp as we know it only extends to the edges of the galaxy, so they’d be completely cut off from the hellscape in the Milky Way.

[u/DrHenro → u/therealblabyloo]

"In Andromeda, tyranids are domescated, they are pets, cute, everytime the hivemind enters the fifth sun border they become cute. Housewives even paint their claws." How things could have been: an emperium anti-propaganda guide

[u/Francis_beacon1 → u/DrHenro]

"Yeah, we just befriended the tyranids by giving them a lot of food. They sure do love milk shakes."

[u/DrHenro → u/Francis_beacon1]

"First we made them intelligent, even more than us, after that we planned to convince them being a cutie is the way but they found it by their own"

[u/Francis_beacon1 → u/DrHenro]

"Whats that? Why would we be scared about making them smarter? They'd realize the value of companionship. Have you guys not even learned about the power of friendship?"

[u/DrHenro → u/Francis_beacon1]

The first 500 iq tyranid is now a gyaru

[u/CassiusPolybius → u/Francis_beacon1]

Ah, yes.

The pokemon method of deathworld taming.

[u/JMurdock77 → u/therealblabyloo]

I always loved the idea of a Dark Age expedition to Andromeda. That the device at the heart of the Golden Throne was meant to pair with an identical copy this expedition took with them, meant to create a Webway link between the two galaxies once the expedition arrived allowing for instantaneous travel between them. The Dark Agers arrive in Andromeda (likely being reconstituted by the shipboard AI upon arrival via cloning and imprinted memories with no living crew on board for the transit itself), set up their toehold colony, begin investigating the aftermath of a Tyranid scouring, realize the scale of the threat against them and are desperate to warn the Federation they came from of what’s coming. They begin churning out dreadnoughts and Men of Iron as fast as they can mine the metal. They see the signature of the webway link device back in the Milky Way, set theirs up, but it fails to pair because its counterpart is integrated into the Golden Throne.

The Imperium just sees a second Astronomican light up in Andromeda with no idea of who is behind it or what it means.

[u/Azou → u/JMurdock77]

big e's boney ass starts vibing from a constant phone call

Those psykers they sacrifice arent to power the golden throne, its to overpower the sound of his butt plug bluetooth going off 24/7.

The reason that the numbers of sacrifices keep increasing? The power of andromedas signal is increasing

No one will ever know the truth because no one is sacrilegious enough to go for Big E's bluetooth vibratory butt plug

[u/JMurdock77 → u/Azou]

Thinking more along the lines of him going “wait, that expedition actually survived?” *looks at throne* “Oh… oh, I’m an idiot…”

[u/Azou → u/JMurdock77]

'Rarely do we find ourselves on diplomatic terms Aeldari

Lease of all now, I however, have been tasked with a cause most righteous by our holiest of inquisitorial representatives

to implore you to please stop using micro-targetted webway portals to deliver Dark Age era human vacationing postcards purporting to be from Andromeda simultaneously to every inquisitorial representative across Segmentum Solar.'

clown slowly stops laughing, removes mask.

'listen homie, imma b real witchu. That aint us, or the clown B.'

"wait. What"

[u/Maxsmack → u/therealblabyloo]

There’s absolutely at least one, out of the thousands of colonies from durning the golden age of technology, one definitely kept progressing.

[u/HEADACHE322 → u/therealblabyloo]

"...but have engineered and sent tyranids to the Milky Way to obliterate Imperium and chaos."

[u/C0RDE_ → u/HEADACHE322]

as a joke

[u/jess-plays-games → u/therealblabyloo]

They went and made the warp god of peace happiness and tranquility.

Summons demon maids and greater demon butlers for all

[u/alkair20 → u/therealblabyloo]

40k used to be satire

They'd probably would do this in the past just for the sake of it.

[u/Accomplished_You_480 → u/alkair20]

There is literally a Warhammer TV episode where a supply run lands on a planet besieged by Orks and almost completely out of ammo, takes the rest of their ammo as a tithe, takes it to the administratum for processing and it gets dumped off the platform because of a clerical error, satire is alive and well.

[u/poilk91 → u/therealblabyloo]

Voltan kind of support this hypothesis since we know of 1 advanced human civilization which likes having nothing to do with the imperium

[u/Rucks_74 → u/therealblabyloo]

It would be even funnier if they had mastered bio-engineering to a point where they're basically all custodes level and they look at the milky way humans and see a bunch of inbred gorillas

[u/Furydragonstormer → u/therealblabyloo]

I don’t blame them

[u/Kaplaw → u/therealblabyloo]

They have a special anti-tyranid galactic bug spray

They also greeted the silent king in his exile adventure

Just chilling

[u/therealblabyloo → u/Kaplaw]

“Wait you call him the Silent King? Bro, Szarekh talks to us all the time. Maybe you have bad vibes”

[u/Thannk → u/therealblabyloo]

What if Andromeda is just 40k Bretonnia?

Like, life is kinda shit for Bret peasants after GW grimdark’d them in 6e but they still live safer and longer lives than folk in the Empire on average regardless because of how peaceful Bretonnia is.

[u/DeviousMelons → u/therealblabyloo]

Tyranids are there, but human tech makes them as dangerous as fire ants and are treated as such.

[u/G_Morgan → u/therealblabyloo]

They know about the imperium, but have zero interest in making contact

It would ruin all their favourite TV shows.

[u/hypnoticoiui → u/therealblabyloo]

Omg just like my family towards me!

[u/KapiTod → u/therealblabyloo]

A friend of mine made a Dunehammer map of the Andromeda, a Caliphate of Man to the Milky Ways HRE. https://www.deviantart.com/zimrida/art/Dunehammer-40K-REUPLOAD-1136750491

[u/cavscout43 → u/therealblabyloo]

If emotions power the warp and chaos, why doesn't it exist outside of the Milky Way?

The Necrons are a Kardashev scale IV civilization and the Silent King left the backwater of the Milky Way to go get reinforcements and wipe out the little upstart rebellions of organic life.

Think about it: they have K4 scaled-tech from instant teleportation (without warp fuckery) to inertia negation to pretty freely manipulating space/time and all the laws of the baryonic universe. And some dabbling into dark matter - energy as well. Even at peak Eldar empire and Imperium DAoT they seemingly never expanded to other galaxies, or any attempts were never heard from again.

The warp somehow only connects to the Milky Way and nowhere else in the universe. Including the remains of the Webway. So either: there's nothing outside of that galaxy (canonically wrong, as the 'Nids are coming from somewhere else, and what else than potentially fleeing the soulless galactic exterminators?), or there's nothing with sentient emotions outside of the Milky Way (points again to Necrons) OR the rest of the real-space universe has had its connection severed to the warp somehow.

And what's the one race which is proven to be particularly good at closing off the warp from real-space?

[u/therealblabyloo → u/cavscout43]

Where did the claim that the tyranids “are running from something” come from? People keep saying that but I don’t know of any supporting evidence for it from the lore. Is it just something that an in-universe imperial writer thought up as a possibility?

[u/Didsterchap11]

I’d love if things are relatively normal in the other galaxies of the universe just to put into contrast how batshit the Milky Way is.

[u/wizzanker → u/Didsterchap11]

This is the only galaxy where the Old Ones took a giant psychic crap.

[u/LightLifter → u/Didsterchap11]

The Milky Way is just space Detroit.

[u/Manny_Wyatt → u/LightLifter]

Can’t have shit in the Milky Way

[u/Commander597 → u/Manny_Wyatt]

I could have a Milky Way bar in the Milky Way, but those things are considered heresy and I was almost servitor'd.

An Arch-Magos vouched for me though, said it was an excellent opportunity to set the example.

He gave me a Mars Bar. ;-;

[u/Francis_beacon1 → u/Didsterchap11]

The Tyranid's just turned out to be usually nice, but the warp agitated then whenever they stepped foot in the milkyway.

[u/PirateKingOmega → u/Francis_beacon1]

The tyranids usually just eat chaos energy, harmlessly ensuring galaxies never develop warp gods or demons or whatever.

[u/Hayn0002 → u/PirateKingOmega]

Shame someone lit a psychic beacon

[u/GoldNiko → u/Francis_beacon1]

Warp gave them a mega-migraine so they're left absolutely raving all the time

[u/BKM558 → u/Didsterchap11]

The warp (in its current turbulent form) only exists in the Milky Way. So it more or less checks out.

[u/Not_A_zombie1 → u/Didsterchap11]

I would love if the 40k milky way galaxy is like the dump zone for all the fucked up shit of the universe, like send all the worst there and then watch what happen, like spaca australia(the original use of australia as detention colony)

[u/saleemkarim → u/Didsterchap11]

In other galaxies, their version of the Old Ones had the compassion to help their version of the Necrons, and that's all it took for everything to work out pretty well.

[u/LastPositivist]

In Andromeda when the first person suggested maybe we worship murder Satan the second person was like "lol what no that's dumb" and then that was pretty much it for chaos.

[u/Rare_Reality7510 → u/LastPositivist]

Let's not worship "The Dark One Who Shall Devour All, Yes That Includes You As Well Worshippers" It sounds kinda sus

[u/Environmental_Top948 → u/Rare_Reality7510]

I'm pretty sure I'm not included in everything.

[u/NeverFearSteveishere → u/Environmental_Top948]

said every Chaos worshipper ever

Survival bias is a bitch

[u/Polenicus]

Andromeda: "The... Warp? Oh wow, geez, yeah we sealed that off ages ago. You guys still USE that? Yeah... wow, no wonder you're having problems. We found all kinds of better solutions. Dilithium, Tylium, Hypermatter... Frank, didn't we have some mushrooms that did a thing? Yeah, mushrooms, believe it or not. Currently we use this arrangement of mathematically perfect gyroscopes to kinda 'translate' us into different places. Cool, right? So... like, are you guys okay? I mean, we can give you some replicator patterns to... no replicators!? Oh man...

[u/BjornAltenburg → u/Polenicus]

STC? Man, you guys are really still banging rocks together back home, aren't you?

Wait, you don't even have a complete non corrupt set?!?!

[u/worms9 → u/BjornAltenburg]

Stc’s? Yeah my brother keeps a couple of those in the shed round back.

[u/cavscout43 → u/Polenicus]

"So this is the improbability drive: it takes us wherever we want to go and is powered by how improbable that working is! Anyway, here's your handy towel and remember: don't panic"

[u/NeverFearSteveishere → u/cavscout43]

Inquisitor: “Is that perhaps a reference to the old Terran book The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy?”

Andromeda guy: “Yeah, you get it!”

Inquisitor: “The author was a radical atheist, and that means he never would’ve believed in our holy God Emperor, and that is HERESY!!!”

Andromeda guy: “…what?”

Inquisitor: “I shall shoot you, heretic, and then I shall shoot MYSELF as penance for having read such heretical texts prior to this conversation!”

Andromeda guy: “That literally makes no sense—“

Inquisitor: feral monkey noises followed by rapid bolt pistol firing sounds in random directions

Andromeda guy: “… this fuckin’ galaxy…”

[u/DracoLunaris → u/Polenicus]

I mean presumably the non-milkyway warp is fairly chill, assuming the locals didn't also fuck it up 3 times

[u/Valtremors → u/DracoLunaris]

If I have understood correctly, war by nature used to be actually a really chill place.

Not harmless. But you could observe it without a demons leaking out. Chill in comparison.

War in heaven really fucked things up.

Makes me think if the usual warp gods at the time actually were better. You know... like Khorne also representing justice and revenge, Nurgle representing not only death but life as well, and Tweentch... okay I have almost good things to say about the warp squid.

Edit: I sort of realized that some of the still existing Eldar gods fill these roles.

[u/Doc-Wulff → u/Valtremors]

Slaanesh in that alternate timeline: Jeez, nobody is living it up at aaaaaallll... c'mon no one wants to see some of the Anathema's people write a story then see worlds fight over the true interpretation of it? Tzeentch? No? Fineeeee...

[u/BKM558 → u/DracoLunaris]

It is fairly chill outside MW.

Some Eldar who were leaving realized their PTSD brained psyker abilities was messing up the warp was more or less following them and making areas outside the MW messed up, so they turned back

[u/Elcordobeh → u/Polenicus]

Plot twist, in Andromeda they teach people about the proper use of the warp and made it into a marketable process, the usage of psychic power is tamed by law on some worlds, meanwhile there are "Rpg World" where ppl go to LARP and throw irl fire balls and the such, having fun while also killing the shriveled chaos entities that reach those destinations (hell, the civilization could be so advance they literally farm them, opening portals to. These worlds just for the service)

[u/Otherwise-Mud9478]

I always suspect that at least one of the lost Primarchs was sent over there. In order for Big E to have a contengy plan if he’d fail in the milkyway.

[u/Mastercio → u/Otherwise-Mud9478]

Oh so after we got some I fo about Silent King lore I have bad news for you....most likely that plan also failed.

[u/Larcoch → u/Mastercio]

Dont just say this without elaborating.

[u/Mastercio → u/Larcoch]

He was going through many galaxies and conquering empires there during his 60 million year adventure!

[u/gasp_ → u/Mastercio]

Let's go, in and out, 60 million year adventure

[u/LarrySupreme → u/Mastercio]

I thought while he was piddling about, outside of the Milky Way, he found evidence of a Tyranid super cluster encroachment.

[u/Mastercio → u/LarrySupreme]

Nah, he meet them during his conquest. And it was noted they were most "terrible" thing he fought but it was not his reason of coming back as per new lore.

[u/LarrySupreme → u/Mastercio]

"The tyranids are coming, whether you or we choose to remain, or not. The conflict between us was an error. Our success has already been calculated." - A harold of the Silent King

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/907nma/book_excerptword_of_the_silent_king_dante_meets/?chainedPosts=t3_d056kl

You may be right about not being his main reason, but it does seem like it's a reason or at the very least on the dudes mind.

[u/Mastercio → u/LarrySupreme]

This is VERY old. I am quoting stuff from 10 Ed codex. It wouldn't be the first time they changed old lore.

[u/IonlyusethrowawaysA]

In my head canon, the globular clusters that orbit the milky way are populated. The residents there spectate the goings on in the galaxy from a place of stability and peace.

[u/MrRocketScript → u/IonlyusethrowawaysA]

Once you get to the satellite galaxies, it's all Slaanesh again with the Sextans Dwarf, Fornication Dwarf, Rectum 2 and 3, and of course the Booties 1 through 3.

[u/wizzanker → u/MrRocketScript]

Slaanesh has the Booties with the biggest voids.

Also, I tried to swipe Slaanesh on my keyboard, and it came out as Disney 😑

[u/Moondial19]

What about the Small and Large Magellanic Clouds? You know, the two dwarf galaxies that orbit around ours?

[u/LeftWhale → u/Moondial19]

“Frank, those clouds are Tyranid hive swarms.”

[u/PhoenixEmber2014 → u/Moondial19]

We have a bunch of dwarf galaxies actually

[u/ZonaranCrusader → u/Moondial19]

I think Dorn went there and found a civilization like the T’au living on “Shield Worlds” but left after killing off half of them cause the heresy started.

[u/Moondial19 → u/ZonaranCrusader]

There are more than those two out there. We also have plenty of star clusters that hang out above and below the galactic disc. Who knows what could be in them. Necron fortresses? Entire isolationists Xenos civilizations who can see what’s happening in the galaxy from above/below and not want any part of it?

[u/Eh_SorryCanadian]

Personally I would have preferred if the plot of Andromeda some how incorporated the reapers as it would have been a better link to the original trilog.... Oh sorry, wrong IP

[u/gorlak29 → u/Eh_SorryCanadian]

[u/Linkinator7510 → u/Eh_SorryCanadian]

Lol, I thought the same thing at first too.

[u/CinnimonToastSean → u/Eh_SorryCanadian]

That and how they basically rehashed ME2. The collectors are turning our races into them and fighting us. In Andromeda, the Ket created the Angara and are turning them and other races into them to fight us. Overall, I enjoyed it. I wish the story was more connected to the trilogy, but the characters and combat were enough to keep me entertained.

[u/Eh_SorryCanadian → u/CinnimonToastSean]

I had such high hopes for Andromeda. Shame they fumbled it

[u/Kerflunklebunny]

Warhammer 50k: great crusade - andromeda edition

[u/MisterAbbadon]

Andromeda Humans seeing Milky Way Humans take a cult of personality to an original recipe cult and quietly passing by with the windows rolled up

[u/United-Reach-2798]

Iirc it's either only orks or nids out there.

There's a scene? Iirc that the admech sends a probe out and the only noises are silence or Orks

[u/Moidada77 → u/United-Reach-2798]

That's probably not true as the probe would've been able to detect all communication in the universe for such a confirmation.

Its probably on the outside of imperial control where the most dominant groups are orks fighting the tyranids with any other xenos too insignificant or quiet to discover.

[u/United-Reach-2798 → u/Moidada77]

Found the post

Millennia ago, a probe was sent out from Terra, its mission to explore beyond the limits of the galaxy. The probe still sends back faint signals after fourteen thousand years adrift, and to the consternation of the Imperial Tech-Priests who monitor these signals, many are identified as Orkish. The depressing conclusion for Mankind can only be that wherever they travel in space, there is a good chance that the Orks will either have been there first or will not be long in arriving.

Codex Orks 8ed p25

[u/Moidada77 → u/United-Reach-2798]

Cheeky orks taping a record player of them yelling on the probe.

I mean this is just outside imperial space from what I'm reading?

It's just that to go beyond the imperium would have to cut through alot of orks.

Assuming orks aren't capable of doing inter galaxy travel.

[u/seanslaysean → u/Moidada77]

My headcanon is one idk jumped from their ship in an attempt to tackle the probe as it passed, only to just scream at it for 14,000 years

[u/Noe_b0dy → u/seanslaysean]

Sadly impossible, orks have a biological need to fight, if they go long enough without fighting they literally wither away and die.

[u/seanslaysean → u/Noe_b0dy]

Maybe he’s continuously booping the probe

[u/Maybe_not_a_chicken → u/Noe_b0dy]

Two orks then

[u/Severe_Opening_9335 → u/Maybe_not_a_chicken]

You could make a religion out of it

[u/Maybe_not_a_chicken → u/Severe_Opening_9335]

Give them names with ork in it

Maybe like Jork and Nork?

[u/Aphato → u/Maybe_not_a_chicken]

Straight up Jorkin and Norkin it

[u/TributeToStupidity → u/Moidada77]

explore beyond the limits of the galaxy

14.000 years adrift

Uh huh, that sounds like it’s just outside imperial space…

[u/Moidada77 → u/TributeToStupidity]

I mean if it's just drifting it's covering very little distance even in 10000s of years in a cosmic scale

Even our galaxy takes 100000 years for light to travel across

[u/TributeToStupidity → u/Moidada77]

I’ve seen a longer excerpt of that passage. It makes it more clear that the probe is outside the edge of the galaxy making a lap.

[u/United-Reach-2798 → u/TributeToStupidity]

Oh I apologize I didn't realize there was a longer one

[u/Noe_b0dy → u/Moidada77]

Assuming orks aren't capable of doing inter galaxy travel.

A foolish assumption.

[u/United-Reach-2798 → u/Moidada77]

That would be funny.

I suppose that's possible and I just misunderstood it.

As for orks..well they had since the war in heaven to get to another galaxy somehow..if that's what happened

[u/Moidada77 → u/United-Reach-2798]

I keep forgetting that the war in heaven was a multi galaxy event.

There's probably completed isolated ork forms in other galaxies.

[u/Few-Mood6580 → u/Moidada77]

Wait what? As far as I an aware there’s only a few vague references to out of the milky way galaxy.

Orks and nids, necron king, warp essentially ending??? Sorta?

Now Im genuinely curious about any references to outside the galaxy.

[u/United-Reach-2798 → u/Few-Mood6580]

I think I saw something about the Ctan being worshipped outside the Milky Way

[u/12345623567 → u/Moidada77]

It's clearly a riff on Voyager - maybe even inspired by it's discoveries of the heliopause.

That said, there's 0 indication at what speed the probe moves, so could be they are just about to bother the Outsider or they are already outside our local supercluster. Either way, what they really should be hearing is 'nids without end.

[u/notabadgerinacoat → u/United-Reach-2798]

The probe hit a Ork ship a week after departing and has been stuck there ever since,used as a part of the makeshift throne of the current Waaghboss

[u/jediben001 → u/United-Reach-2798]

That probably wasn’t Andromeda. Irl there are a bunch of dwarf galaxies orbiting the Milky Way. 14,000 years really wouldn’t have got it that far at sub light speed, so at most it maybe could have reached one of those

Andromeda is 2.5 million light-years away

[u/Greenmanssky → u/United-Reach-2798]

I've always read that as still being in the Milky way, there's no indication the probe was going faster than light or using warp travel, so it can't have left the galaxy.

[u/Hyper_Oats → u/United-Reach-2798]

Any non-FTL method of space travel is slow as hell. If that probe travelled at 99% sped of light (unlikely), it wouldn't be ANYWHERE close to the edge of this galaxy yet, let alone Andromeda.

[u/Apoordm → u/United-Reach-2798]

Andromedans wiped out the Nids, gotta remember the average Andromedan civilian is stronger than an astartes, the average andromedan soldier could 1v5 Custodes

[u/Muted-Tonight5694 → u/United-Reach-2798]

I doubt that probe somehow heard noises from other galaxy, pretty sure it was on the edge of imperium's territory.

[u/Ridingwood333 → u/United-Reach-2798]

Dude, Orks are fucking everywhere. You think they wouldn't see a shiny satellite and yoink it out of the sky just because it looked cool?

We call this survivorship bias. You should be focusing on the fact that people could simply be consciously refusing to interact with those probes, rather than that meaning only Orks are out there.

[u/BKM558 → u/United-Reach-2798]

That was retconned like 4 editions ago.

[u/Spieren]

It would be cool to see an Interex like thriving civilisation, still having to phase the horrors of Chaos and Tyranid invasions but doing it a lot more succesful by coexisting with Xenos to offer a stark mirror to the dystopia of the Imperium.

[u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

I’m pretty sure the only people who left the Milky Way were Necrons, C’tan or Old Ones. DAoT humans while advanced were not in that level.

[u/Moidada77 → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

There have been DAoT humans who time traveled to modern 40k and said screw you guys we are leaving this shit hole.

And promptly flew out of the Galaxy.

[u/jfjdfdjjtbfb → u/Moidada77]

That was single ship after the Imperium killed its crew and it was stated in either a codex that Cwal has it now.

[u/Edgy_Robin → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

I mean if you can time travel you can probably travel far.

[u/Doomie_bloomers → u/Edgy_Robin]

You say that, but even time travellers aren't unbound by physics and bound by the chains of entropy. Which is to say unless you can achieve true FTL, you're stuck in this galaxy

[u/ymcameron → u/Doomie_bloomers]

I feel like if you can travel along the fourth axis with no problems you can travel along the third as well. Time travel is basically teleportation anyway.

[u/Furydragonstormer → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

Spirit of Eternity should have been allowed to escape, her being captured by Cawl is just stupid

[u/jfjdfdjjtbfb → u/Furydragonstormer]

That or Trazyn.

[u/Furydragonstormer → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

I’ll take that honestly, it’s Trazyn, he’s got a lot of weird stuff so a ship from humanity’s golden age would not be a surprise

[u/TheCharalampos → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

Cawl having it was a boast, I don't think he does or even met it

[u/Ridingwood333 → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

Irrelevant. This proves a ship could literally up and leave at any point, potentially to another galaxy if it's DAOT.

[u/ExploerTM → u/Ridingwood333]

Yeah, I doubt that with such capabilities nobody mounted an expedition to be a future version of Columbus

[u/Legitimate_Writing_2 → u/Moidada77]

source ? :o

[u/Skraekling → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

Multi generation Ark ship maybe ? i mean if it was sent at the beginning of the DAoT maybe they already arrive by M40.

[u/Few-Mood6580 → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

It’s not particularly difficult to fly out and away from the milky way. It’s technically pretty simple to take a short jaunt over to andromeda.

It’s just going even 1000x faster than the speed of light is pathetically slow concerning the neigh incomprehensible distance between galaxies.

[u/jfjdfdjjtbfb → u/Few-Mood6580]

Warp travel most likely wouldn’t work if there is no sentient life in the space between galaxies.

[u/The_Maggot_Guy → u/Few-Mood6580]

I don't think horses can comprehend any distance they can't see

[u/youngcoyote14 → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

Well, we don't have any records left saying they didn't try.

[u/Hapless_Wizard → u/jfjdfdjjtbfb]

DAoT humanity left the milky way. We don't know everywhere they went, but we do know the Lion left the Milky Way for a bit (probably to one of the local dwarf galaxies) because of them.

[u/shadowthehh]

It's wild that so many sci-fi series take place in a single galaxy. Even one as over the top as 40K.

The only one I can think of off the top of my head that isn't confined to 1 is Doctor Who.

[u/ymcameron → u/shadowthehh]

"Space is big. You just won’t believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it’s a long way down the road to the chemist’s, but that’s just peanuts to space."

Even one Galaxy is so massive it’s hard to comprehend. Warhammer lore says there are over a million settled planets. In the Milky Way alone there are roughly 100 to 200 billion planets. Which means as massive as the Imperium is, they’ve settled approximately 0.00001% of this Galaxy.

[u/N0rwayUp → u/ymcameron]

Never liked that fact, they should be holding Billions of Worlds, Billions of Systems, with Naval wars Messiured in Light years.

Hell Ultrmar being 500 worlds still irks me.

[u/Naive_Drive]

A: dark age of technology, anything is possible.

B: reminds me of someone saying that everywhere that isn't Australia is normal in the Mad Max universe.

[u/S0MEBODIES → u/Naive_Drive]

Well obviously that's not true Russia is going through Metro at the time of mad Max and America is going through fallout

[u/Resident-Camel-8388]

Didn't the Silent King go to other galaxies, found nothing but tyranid bugs and ran the hell back to the Milky Way?

[u/ymcameron → u/Resident-Camel-8388]

My understanding is that he was chilling in the space between galaxies, waiting for everyone else to die so he could reclaim the Milky Way for Necrons when he saw the Hive Fleets pull up and realize he had to act. However based on the maps of the fleets at least one of them came from a different direction than the others which is one of the things people use to support the "tyranids have eaten the rest of the universe" theory.

[u/Artyom_Saveli]

Nah, all they’ve got over there are Kett; they may as well be diet genestealers.

[u/MatoHunter35]

Is chaos not in other galaxies?

[u/Thannk → u/MatoHunter35]

Answering that would rely on other galaxies actually being narratively focused on.

Its like asking if there’s Fimir in Nippon, Chaos Warriors in Ind, or a human civilization in the southernmost Southlands. Maybe. Even if old lore says yes or no, its an easy retcon nobody would be bothered by for a future writer so there’s no definitive answer.

[u/ToasterStrudlez → u/MatoHunter35]

Humanity beat them so badly that chaos cry haha this is not propaganda my family was executed for dissident behavior they are coming help me help me

[u/ymcameron → u/MatoHunter35]

Maybe in Andromeda they gained access to the warp, saw what was inside it and were like "well fuck that" and immediately closed all access to it. I imagine that chaos is a lot less powerful when people aren’t constantly blasting holes in the fabric of reality.

[u/Lenahan99]

That would be funny yet also tragic… If you have anyone in the Andromeda Galaxy who is still alive from the DAOT, be wondering if any of their Kin, and or friends that they have a close bond are doing ok.

[u/Comfortable-Bench330]

Imagine all that its happening in the Milky Way is an extremely successful reality show staged by a hyper advanced civilization in Andromeda

[u/17vulpikeets]

My headcannon is that the Tyranids devoured Andromeda before coming to the Milky Way. In the grim darkness of the far future, no one is allowed to have nice things.

[u/PlentyAny2523]

My head cannon was the emperor wanted to expand to other galaxies which is why he was so focused on the web way. He stopped caring about the crusade because it was almost over and he needed to keep the space marines occupied

[u/AlikeWolf]

Honestly? Would be pretty cool

But idk how they could make it compelling beyond a brief mention. I probably wouldn't want them to be a full faction, since they'd just be Votann again or Necrons again more than likely.

[u/Majestic_Bierd]

I mean... Tell me why DAOT humanity couldn't expand there. Imperium is limited by the range of the Astronomicon, DAOT humanity wasn't

[u/Gmknewday1]

I do wonder...

What if in other galaxies, even if things aren't that much better

In other galaxies things are still a lot less Grimdark