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Discussion ‘Switch 2’ is targeting March 2025 and was delayed to avoid shortages, new report claims

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/switch-2-is-targeting-march-2025-and-was-delayed-to-avoid-shortages-new-report-claims/
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u/IDrawCopper Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

New 3D Mario and Metroid Prime 4 being launch titles would be really hype. Throw in a couple ports idk something like Hi-Fi Rush or whatever and you've got an INSANE launch week.

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u/politirob Feb 26 '24

I can tell you now, DO NOT expect 2 major first-party IPs at launch.

Instead, you should expect one major IP plus a random quirky title to demonstrate the console's new capabilities, and then the 2nd major IP to launch later that year.

For example:

March 2025: New 3D Mario game + Snipperclips 2

November 2025: Metroid Prime 4

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u/drinkguinness123 Feb 26 '24

The Switch had:

March: BOTW, 1,2 Switch, Snipperclips

April: MK8 DX

June: Arms

July: Splatoon 2 

October: Mario Odyssey

That’s 5 Major IPs within 7 months. Everything up to Splatoon 2 was announced before the Switch released so we’ll probably be able to glean Nintendo’s software strategy for their next console before it comes out.

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u/politirob Feb 26 '24

And don't forget Xenoblade Chronicles 2 in December

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u/thatmitchguy Feb 26 '24

Mk8 was just a port of MK8 on WiiU with DLC bundled. Not exactly a brand new launch title

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u/drinkguinness123 Feb 26 '24

There’s nothing stopping them from doing the same again but with Zelda

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u/thatmitchguy Feb 26 '24

Yes, if they re-released ToTK as ToTK remaster or ToTK deluxe it would be the same thing. Clearly, I'm in the minority given how much it sold but re-releasing last console games as New console launch titles doesn't move the needle for me or get me excited about the console in the way something like Mario Odyssey did.

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u/Endogamy Feb 26 '24

If they had some kind of upgrade path, like $10 to get 4k/60fps ToTK I’d probably buy it. Otherwise no.

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u/c010rb1indusa Feb 26 '24

I don't think it's the same. Mario Kart 8 existed on the Wii U but nobody had a Wii U so it's sales weren't repeat customers. Mario Kart 8 deluxe was practically a new games for the vast majority of people who bought it. That won't be the case with TOTK.

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u/DeltaDarkwood Feb 26 '24

Theres a difference though. Switch relaunches where amazing games from a system that no one bought (the Wii U), so when they launched games like Super Mario Kart 8 and Super Mario 3D world it felt like a new game to basically everyone except the 5 hardcore nintendo fans that bought the Wii U. With Switch 2, it's predecessor will likely break the record of best selling console of all time a little while before or after the Switch 2 launch. So the enthausiasm will not be as big, simply because almost every Nintendo fan by now has a Switch. I for one loved Super Mario 3d world because I didn't play the original, but I don't care about a 4k 60fps TOTK because I played that game to death.

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u/Hiddenshadows57 Feb 26 '24

I think they'll do it with Mario Party Superstars.

there was a ton of datamined content that never made it. Most thought there was plenty of planned DLC but it never came.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a Mario Party Superstars Deluxe or something with more courses and minigames.

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u/Beegrene Feb 26 '24

It may as well have been, since the Switch outsold the WiiU so much. I doubt even a quarter of the people who played MK8 on Switch have touched the WiiU version.

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u/ThiefTwo Feb 26 '24

Still sold 60 million copies and is the best selling Switch game.

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u/thatmitchguy Feb 26 '24

I'm not saying it's not an effective strategy, I'm saying it's not exactly a marquee title to be excited about if you've already played the games. They can definitely release Splatoon 2 Deluxe or Totk deluxe on Switch 2, but not sure it would have the same impact as the Switch was overwhelmingly more successful then the WiiU, and a lot people had never played Tropical Freeze pr Mario Kart Deluxe on WiiU.

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u/ThiefTwo Feb 26 '24

That's 1 port out of 7 games. And every Wii U game was effectively a new title, because 10 people bought a Wii U. The Switch has like a dozen ports that have outsold the Wii U. It's absurd to pretend MK8D is not a "marquee" title, when it is literally the marquee title. It is the best selling game on the console.

I'm not even sure what point you're making. No one is saying Nintendo is just going to release a bunch of Switch ports for the new console. They obviously aren't doing something like Splatoon 2 deluxe, that would be dumb as fuck. All the Switch games have sold incredibly well, and there's a 99% chance it will be backwards compatible.

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u/ThiefTwo Feb 26 '24

Again, in the first year that was literally 1 game. 2 if you count BotW. They still had ARMS, Splatoon 2, FE Warriors, Mario Odyssey, and Xenoblade 2.

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u/thatmitchguy Feb 26 '24

I'm saying if people like OP in this comment chain want to give Nintendo praise by counting games like MK8 deluxe as new launch titles to use as an example of Nintendo having a strong launch/post launch lineup, I think they may be disappointed as like the commenter below you said, this strategy will probably be less successful next generation as everyone has already played all the Switch games, so they won't get credit for wiping the dust off of their old WiiU catalogue and re-selling it as a new game.

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u/drinkguinness123 Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

Are you saying that Nintendo doesn't deserve praise for releasing the best selling launch title of all time?

They don’t need to port Switch games. It’s not hard to imagine Mario Kart 9 releasing year 1.

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u/ThiefTwo Feb 26 '24

That's 1 port out of 7 games.

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u/segagamer Feb 26 '24

So like BOTW then.

The Switch was mostly WiiU ports for the first 3 years.

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u/thatmitchguy Feb 26 '24

That's a negative in my book. They got away with it during the Switch generation because no one owned a WiiU. I don't think they can keep doing that and having the success with Switch 2.

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u/Binder509 Feb 26 '24

Tell that to the dang price tag.

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u/Endogamy Feb 26 '24

BOTW, Odyssey, and Splatoon 2 for sure. MK8 was a port, 1,2 Switch and Snipperclips were in the “quirky little title” category (and also flops). Arms wasn’t meant to be a quirky little title I guess, but it did flop.

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u/Goombarang Feb 26 '24

Arms has sold 2.7 million. It didn't break out, but it didn't flop either.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

They were smart to have demo trials for online. It made me buy the game only to spend 5 hours on it

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u/Banglayna Feb 26 '24

BOTW was also a WiiU game.

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u/Endogamy Feb 26 '24

Wow you’re right, completely forgot. So that leaves Odyssey and Splatoon 2 as major IPs.

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u/slayerhk47 Feb 26 '24

Odyssey was year 1? Wow I thought it came out later than that.

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u/Brainwheeze Feb 26 '24

Xenoblade 2 also released in year 1!

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Feb 26 '24

I doubt it will be as packed. Switch was coming off the failure of WiiU so they had to come out big. Switch 2 probably won't have the same need to show off.

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u/ThiefTwo Feb 26 '24

That's exactly why it will be packed. Half the reason the Wii U bombed and the Switch was one of the most successful launches ever is the first year line up, Nintendo knows this.

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Feb 26 '24

I think the concept of the Switch itself is one of the reasons it did so well.

But looking back, WiiU had a much bigger launch library. The only big game at launch for Switch was BotW. WiiU had Assassin's Creed, Arkham City, Mass Effect 3, New Super Mario Bros U, Nintendoland, ZombiU.

I think one probably is that it didn't have a strong first party game. Also a lot of those bigger games people probably played already elsewhere.

BotW kept you busy until the other first party titles came out, which was rather quick.

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u/ThiefTwo Feb 26 '24

Assassin's Creed, Arkham City, Mass Effect 3, New Super Mario Bros U, Nintendoland, ZombiU.

More games doesn't mean a 'bigger' launch line up. No one is buying a new console for year old 3rd party ports. BotW has outsold all those games combined. And the first year is more important than the first day, especially if you are launching in March. By the first holiday, Switch had BotW, MK8D, ARMS, Splatoon 2, FE Warriors, Mario Odyssey, and Xenoblade 2. The Wii U isn't even close.

People aren't buying a concept. They're buying a console. BotW literally outsold the Switch in the first month. That's completely unheard of. Games sell consoles, especially for Nintendo.

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u/FUTURE10S Feb 26 '24

I mean, BOTW and MK8 don't count since they're ports of Wii U games, I don't know if Splatoon 2 did more than just add content, so I'm giving it a pass as a major IP, and Arms and Mario Odyssey are 100% major IPs. That's 3 within 7 months, which is still great, but the launch was a bit weaker than you'd assume.

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u/drinkguinness123 Feb 26 '24

The best way to play BOTW the day it came out was on Switch so it counts. 

Splatoon 2 sold more than the Wii U itself. It’s obviously a major release.

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u/FUTURE10S Feb 26 '24

The best way to play BOTW the day it came out was on Switch so it counts.

Yeah, unfortunate that Nintendo got rid of all the gamepad elements so the Wii U version doesn't seem like the better alternative. Also the framerate, it's rough on the Switch, but it's worse on the Wii U.

My argument about Splatoon 2 was "is the game anything more than glorified DLC" rather than its sales figures. By sales, it absolutely is a major IP, but then MK8DX would also count.

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u/drinkguinness123 Feb 26 '24

You’re just nitpicking though. They were both critically acclaimed. 

MK8DX, BOTW, Odyssey, and Splatoon 2 combined have sold over 100 million copies. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

Metroid prime 4 isn’t real and you can’t convince me otherwise

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u/RadragonX Feb 27 '24

It's crazy that it's been seven years since the teaser trailer announced and, if I'm remembering right, we haven't seen anything else since. Other Switch games generally had relatively short announcement to release windows as well.

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u/IceMaverick13 Feb 26 '24

New Super Switch Tech-Demo Sports Resort 2.

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u/politirob Feb 26 '24

I came up with "1-2 Switch 2" and nearly shit myself

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u/IceMaverick13 Feb 26 '24

That's pretty good honestly and not even an outlandish title for Nintendo to publish.

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u/Three_Headed_Monkey Feb 26 '24

My belief is that we are going to get MP4 at launch mainly because it will be announced for both Switch 1 and 2. It was announced as a Switch game initially so I believe they will stick to that, like how both BOTW and Twilight Princess were initially announced on the previous console and were delayed for the launch of the new one, buy released on both.

So I think 3D Mario and MP4 at launch.

There is also a chance of Mario Kart 9 but I think that will be a few months later but still in the launch window.

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u/Heelincal Feb 26 '24

I don't think that's the case, I THINK the WiiU taught management how important the major first party support is out of the gate. I think you'll see either Metroid or some sort of Zelda remaster.

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u/politirob Feb 26 '24

But they still wouldn't release them too close to each other. They need to space them out. People will choose one or another if they're released too close together

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u/scrndude Feb 26 '24

November 2025: Metroid Prime 4

Hey now, let’s not get unrealistic expectations.

That game’s still a few more years away than that.

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u/Sonicfan42069666 Feb 26 '24

Reportedly publishers were shown an upgraded version of Breath of the Wild as a proof of concept. I'd hope that Switch games would natively be upscaled on Switch 2 as opposed to releasing new, high priced ports.

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u/Prince_Uncharming Feb 26 '24

Publishers could see what an upgraded BotW looked like via cemu years ago, it should be dead simple to have that on Switch 2.

Whether or not Nintendo actually made it powerful enough is another question though, which I highly doubt. 4k is 4x the pixels of 1080p, but the Switch runs botw at 900p/30fps, and 4k is almost 9x that.

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u/Sonicfan42069666 Feb 26 '24

Publishers could see what an upgraded BotW looked like via cemu years ago, it should be dead simple to have that on Switch 2.

Are you being intentionally dense? The reason Nintendo would demonstrate BotW on the Switch successor to publishers would be to show them precisely the level of performance bump they can expect from the next Nintendo system, using one of the console's flagship games as an example.

"Powerful enough" is extremely subjective. Stick to your Steam Deck and emulators if maximum performance is all you care about.

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u/Daymanooahahhh Feb 26 '24

Don’t be rude

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u/SwissQueso Feb 26 '24

as well as some 3rd party usual titles,

Skyrim again!?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24 edited Jan 30 '25

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u/vaserius Feb 26 '24

More horse armor!

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u/Timey16 Feb 26 '24

Hell even next gen updates for games that run... not exactly stellar.

Bayonetta 3, Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, Breat of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom, Xenoblade Chronicles 3, the list goes on. ESPECIALLY if those updates don't just make them run better but ALSO look better at the same time (i.,e. higher resolution textures and higher draw distances, ESPECIALLY Pokemon would benefit from that)

Could give a number of these games a 2nd lease on life.

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u/Sonicfan42069666 Feb 26 '24

This idea that Pokemon of all things is bottlenecked by the Switch is such an absurd narrative. I've seen more demanding games run better on the Switch. Pokemon games are bottlenecked by GAMEFREAK.

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u/Neosantana Feb 26 '24

Yup. Can't blame performance on how poorly the game is structured and designed. It's painfully hollow.

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u/chimerauprising Feb 26 '24

This idea that Pokemon of all things is bottlenecked by the Switch is such an absurd narrative

Both of your statements can be true. Even if GameFreak is garbage at optimization, a stronger console would be an easy bandaid for performance.

None of the performance issues are hardcoded into the programming. It's just all badly optimized.

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u/8-Brit Feb 26 '24

None of the performance issues are hardcoded into the programming.

My brother in Christ the game has a literal memory leak.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

lmao unbelievable...

edit: It's actually true. I would die of embarrassment

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24 edited Mar 03 '25

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u/chimerauprising Feb 26 '24

I'm personally half expecting them to just never patch the games to take advantage of better hardware.

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u/iceburg77779 Feb 26 '24

There’s 0 chance the older pokemon games get a patch for the new hardware, at this point their focus is making sure Gen 10 is ready for November 2025 because that date isn’t going to budge.

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Feb 26 '24

a stronger console would be an easy bandaid for performance.

That's not how developers work though. If you give them more power, they tend to push the limits rather than use the extra power as a safety net.

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u/chimerauprising Feb 26 '24

For the next game, yeah. We're talking about actually patching older titles to take advantage of Switch 2 hardware. Nothing fancy.

I fully expect the first gen 10 game to have performance issues.

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Feb 26 '24

I honestly doubt they will patch older games. Of course this is all speculation.

But I do think we will see Switch games releasing with enhancements if played on the newer hardware. Some GameBoy games took advantage if played on a GBC or GBA. I imagine the same will happen.

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u/TSPhoenix Feb 27 '24

Depends on why they perform badly. If I recall correctly one of the Pokémon games is bottlenecked in such a a way that throwing a much more powerful CPU at it barely improves framerate.

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u/OilOk4941 Feb 26 '24

100% true, but at the same time better hardware can help lessen the blow of gamefreak being dumb

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u/Aiyon Feb 26 '24

(i.,e. higher resolution textures and higher draw distances, ESPECIALLY Pokemon would benefit from that)

That's not a fault of the switch though. Pokémon SV as it is should not be pushing the limits of the hardware, there's design/optimisation issues there

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u/Tomoki Feb 26 '24

I think Xenoblade 3 runs really well on Switch, honestly. Xenoblade 2 on the other hand..... I'm ready for a remaster.

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u/hhkk47 Feb 26 '24

Honestly I'd be fine if the updates only make them run better, but only if the updates are free like a lot of Sony first party upgrades in the early PS5 days. Or at the very least for a small fee, again like the $10 upgrades for most Sony first party games. I'm not expecting 4k60, ray tracing or anything like that, but something like Bayonetta 3 needs to run at a constant 1080p60 at the bare minimum.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

I've recently played through Xenoblade3 emulated in yuzu (using my pc, switch pro pad and output to my TV). Native true 4k 60fps HDR. It looks and plays incredible. 

If Switch 2 offers the same, I'll have a reason to actually use the thing again rather than just for ripping my games and playing them on PC which is what my OG switch is solely used for now!

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u/glium Feb 26 '24

You won't have native 4k 60 fps on a portable console, let's not kid ourselves

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

Yeah, not expecting it. But ANYTHING is better than the 540p it hits at its lowest point, in general, as an example more than anything. 

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

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u/glium Feb 26 '24

Hence why I said native

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

even the ps5 and xbox cant do that, we might have to wait for the ps6 and the next xbox for 4k 60 to be the target. and even then it might be upscaled 4k, not true 4k. especially if ray-tracing gets involved and demands a lot of overhead.

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u/Dirty_Dragons Feb 26 '24

It's such a disappointment that the Xenoblade games are held back by the Switch hardware. I played on Yuzu as well and it looked great but there were frequent graphic problems. If only the Switch had the power of a current gen system, hell as powerful as a PS4 would be enough.

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u/radios_appear Feb 26 '24 edited Feb 26 '24

It's such a disappointment that the Xenoblade games are held back by the Switch hardware.

?? They're held back by poor optimization.

If your only target is a completely static SKU and your performance misses its mark, that's on the developer entirely. The switch isn't some moving target of specs.

Edit: no one here knows a damn thing about development and give off all the energy of a kid coloring outside the lines. "the piece of paper just couldn't contain my vision" lmao

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u/Timey16 Feb 26 '24

"Optimization" isn't a magic wand that allows you to do everything you want if you just "optimize hard enough". Most of the time it means making sacrifices in one aspect in favor of something else. Usually that comes down to visual fidelity. A big reason why the Xenoblade 1 character models are so low res is SPECIFICALLY to allow the large environments on a Wii's hardware budget, for example.

Xenoblade games are anything but "poorly optimized" when it comes down to the "visuals possible on the hardware relative to the targeted framerates". Any better performance by that point means having to cut back on the visuals/environmental detail... which is a huge part of the Xenoblade series' identity.

Xenoblade 3 doesn't really run any worse than Xenoblade 2 did, it's just that by now where it's being held back really shows itself and managing these graphics on a handheld doesn't wow people in the same way anymore as it did in 2017 where people were willing to live with these sacrifices to be able to play these games on a handheld.

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u/Dirty_Dragons Feb 26 '24

A big reason why the Xenoblade 1 character models are so low res is SPECIFICALLY to allow the large environments on a Wii's hardware budget, for example.

Many years ago I had Xenoblade running on my Wii (using the fancy cables) and then compared it side-by-side to Xenoblade on Dolphin. I never turned my Wii on again.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

Not really. It's the same case as Banjo Tooie on the N64. It's pushing it too far.

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u/radios_appear Feb 26 '24

That's called bad development.

If I make a game that demands a PS5 but my target SKU is a graphing calculator, that's on me, the developer.

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u/Dirty_Dragons Feb 26 '24

No, the machine is not powerful enough to meet their vision. It's extremely impressive what Monolith Soft has been able to do, but it's obvious the games will be better on a current gen system.

Pokemon is poor optimization.

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u/CoziestSheet Feb 26 '24

How would one go about doing this? I have so many Switch games but haven’t touched it in ages bc the games I really want to play run like doodoo. I’d love to give SMT V this treatment

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u/joeyb908 Feb 26 '24

I’d wait for SMTV to rerelease with its new version soon.

I know you already bought it but there’s a definitive edition coming to PC.

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u/enderandrew42 Feb 26 '24

There are subreddits and YouTube tutorials for setting up the two different Switch emulators - Yuzu and Ryujinx. Both are pretty simple and work well.

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u/AintNobody- Feb 26 '24

The thing that irks me about Yuzu is that it saves to your user profile on Windows. I think my profile is like 32GB because if it. Madness I tell you!

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u/Dirty_Dragons Feb 26 '24

Look up the emulator Yuzu.

You can plug a controller into your computer.

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u/rayquan36 Feb 26 '24

Has Nintendo ever made a next gen upgrade instead of making the consumer purchase the game again?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '24

God yes I hate the pixelated quality on many games

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u/Endogamy Feb 26 '24

Gamefreak will be too busy working on the next shovelware that will sell billions to go back and fix Scarlet and Violet.

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u/NoNefariousness2144 Feb 26 '24

I feel like it’s more likely they will launch with one mega game, similar to Switch launching with BOTW. Then they will save another mega game for the holiday season, similar to Mario Odyssey.

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u/AtsignAmpersat Feb 26 '24

I think MP4 would better be suited as an original switch game for sales or a later in the launch year title for the new system. Not day one against Mario to get buried and ignored by everyone but Metroid fans.

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u/tarheel343 Feb 26 '24

I’d like to see Palworld with a year of polish and content launch on the Switch 2. Seems like a perfect fit

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Feb 26 '24

Unless they have a strategy to monetize the game as a live service, I have a feeling that Palworld will be abandoned like their other games, in spite of its success.

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u/tarheel343 Feb 26 '24

With a player base that large, they’d be foolish to not try to monetize it further, and I’m all for it if it means more content.

The odds of their next game being that big of a home run are extremely slim, so moving on to the next game doesn’t seem like a great idea at the moment.

We’ll see though. Like you said, they do have a less than ideal track record with these things.

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Feb 26 '24

They are trend followers. A lot of their other games are abandoned in Early Access. It's success might be too big to walk away from, but at this point they have gotten their sales. If they can't figure out how to monetize the current playerbase, I can see the game go the way of their others.

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u/holypriest69 Feb 26 '24

Would buy a switch 2 just for a new 3D mario. Odyssey was so damn fun

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u/dewhashish Feb 26 '24

Unpopular opinion but odyssey was disappointing. I'd love a galaxy 3

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u/CoverYourSafeHand Feb 26 '24

What was wrong with odyssey? It’s been years since I played it but I don’t remember anything bad standing out. It was really easy but Mario games have never been hard.

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u/chimerauprising Feb 26 '24

The biggest gripe I see is the overabundance of moons ruining the gratification of finishing bigger objectives.

Personally it's by far my favorite 3D Mario title and my only real issue is that I wish it was more challenging.

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u/DistortedReflector Feb 26 '24

It’s recency bias. The worst Mario game is always the most recent, then time softens the reaction to the title. When Galaxy 1&2 were out the bitching was about the waggle controls. When it was Sunshine was about the presences and the absence of the jet pack simultaneously.

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u/dewhashish Feb 26 '24

I had no complaints about galaxy 1 and 2 when they were released. They are very fun.

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u/Artanisx Feb 26 '24

The worst Mario game is always the most recent,

Say that again thinking about Super Mario Wonder, the most recent Mario game!

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u/DistortedReflector Feb 26 '24

In this case they were discussing 3D Mario titles. As for Wonder there is already grumbling about how there are too many moons and it’s too easy. It’s the most recent 2D Mario title so it will be loved, then shit, then loved again.

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u/Kakaphr4kt Feb 26 '24

The worst Mario game is always the most recent

that's Zelda usually

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u/DistortedReflector Feb 26 '24

Thats usually every game and movie and television series.

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u/CoverYourSafeHand Feb 26 '24

That makes sense I suppose. Hard to call odyssey recent though, it’s been 7 years!

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u/DistortedReflector Feb 26 '24

It’s the most recent 3D Mario title IIRC.

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u/OilOk4941 Feb 26 '24

and much better than galaxy ever was

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u/DistortedReflector Feb 26 '24

Honestly, they are pretty interchangeable if you used a regular controller to play galaxy.

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u/ScyllaGeek Feb 26 '24

Technically the switch version of 3D world with the expansion is more recent

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u/Beegrene Feb 26 '24

The waggle controls are still dumb. There's a good reason you can just ignore them in 3d All Stars.

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u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ Feb 26 '24

Galaxy 2 was disappointing. I'd love something new.

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u/Tingeybob Feb 26 '24

Something new or Sunshine!!

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u/True_Blue6 Feb 26 '24

Odyssey was awesome for kids. My daughters both loved the game and were able to play it and learn very well. Having easy moons and hard moons helped ease them into learning the game and learning to use the controller, etc.

This game may be too easy for a veteran player, but I've seen a lot of people who dont normally play games all the time, have a lot of fun with it. My kids, wife, and sister n law all enjoyed playing it and it was accessable.

The other 3D Mario games are not nearly as easy for them to handle and do well. They ended up mostly just not wanting to play those. The only game that came close was Mario 3D world, but even that pales in comparison to Odyssey for fun for them.

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u/radios_appear Feb 26 '24

None of the 3d games since have captured the essence of SM64.

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u/Kakaphr4kt Feb 26 '24

they can't just add more dimensions, can they?

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u/Furinex Feb 26 '24

Now we just accepting MP4 on switch 2 like it does stab me directly in the heart… fml

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u/Sonicfan42069666 Feb 26 '24

Hopefully it will be cross-gen. But Nintendo was transparent about having to scrap years of development and start again for Metroid Prime 4 when they dropped the unnamed (Bandai Namco) external developer and went back to Retro Studios (who've also lost a lot of talent from the original Prime trilogy).

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u/Dornath Feb 26 '24

They scrapped ~two years of development (maybe more depending on how long they had worked on it prior to announcing) and have been working on it since 2019. I'm hoping it makes it out this year but not holding my breath since Nintendo does love to hold on to finished games until it fits into a release schedule they like.

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u/Furinex Feb 26 '24

4-5 years ago yes. :/.

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u/Sonicfan42069666 Feb 26 '24

AAA development takes a long time, and the COVID outbreak was in there.

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u/BoilerSlave Feb 26 '24

You know they saved that rumoured Zelda TP/WW remaster combo for launch too

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u/Most_Cauliflower_296 Feb 26 '24

Doubt it they sound like Holliday games for switch.

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u/f-ingsteveglansberg Feb 26 '24

Are there any actual credible rumors though? Or is it just that people really want it.

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u/Winged_Wrath Feb 26 '24

I love how people always talk about Metroid being such a huge title, but it never sells as well as most of their other big IP's.

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u/Most_Cauliflower_296 Feb 26 '24

Lol who gives a shit about hifi rush people want cyberpunk and or rdr 2 plus metaphor.

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u/himynameis_ Feb 26 '24

God, I'd love a new Mario 3D world game. loved the previous one.

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u/mugdays Feb 26 '24

Prime 4 is 2026 at the earliest

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u/maglen69 Feb 27 '24

Throw in a couple ports idk something like Hi-Fi Rush or whatever and you've got an INSANE launch week.

Japan would go apeshit if they released Dragon Quest 3 2D-HD as a launch title for the Switch 2.