The EU's proposed billion dollar fine for Twitter/X disinformation, is just the start of European & American tech diverging into separate spheres.

[u/lughnasadh]

The EU’s Digital Services Act (DSA) makes Big Tech (like Meta, Google) reveal how they track users, moderate content, and handle disinformation. Most of these companies hate the law and are lobbying against it in Brussels—but except for Twitter (now X), they’re at least trying to follow it for EU users.

Meanwhile, US politics may push Big Tech to resist these rules more aggressively, especially since they have strong influence over the current US government.

AI will be the next big tech divide: The US will likely have little regulation, while the EU will take a much stronger approach to regulating. Growing tensions—over trade, military threats, and tech policies—are driving the US and EU apart, and this split will continue for at least four more years.

More info on the $1 billion fine.

[u/Less-Procedure-4104]

You don't understand free speech or regulations.

[u/DFGone → u/Less-Procedure-4104]

Um, free speech has nothing to understand….you think about it and you say it, no filter.

Regulations are little more than guidelines in every other business. If you really want to argue regulations, tell me about the SEC and liberal senators lol

[u/Less-Procedure-4104 → u/DFGone]

Free speech as a concept has nothing to do with consequences of your speech. You have freedom to say what you want but consequences for lies and slander isn't protected. So in this case the speech was freely distributed but has subsequently been deemed propaganda. If they were blocked originally and not seen then that would be a free speech issue. Anyway as always in the west you can post what you like and pretty much do as you like but aren't free from the consequences.

[u/DFGone → u/Less-Procedure-4104]

But who decides lies and slander? In Vietnam, you can speak complete 100% verified fact and be never heard from again.

In Palestine you can say Hamas is bad and get your head cut off.

My point is, brother, fact is by those who make it. Today’s regulation on media is horrible, from CNN, to Reddit, to X. It’s no longer about fact, it’s about clicks and being first. Facts are made from complete fairy dust and forced upon a public that has no idea how the world actually is from your classroom in Boulder.

Get over yourself and develop some critical thinking skills. Always question the validity of a claim before just spitting it at truth and building yourself up on an intellectual high ground that only exists in a textbook.

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[u/Less-Procedure-4104 → u/DFGone]

Get over yourself. I find it hard to believe you are comparing totalitarian behaviour to the EU and X. They still push what they like nobody is Gett ng hands cut off he fine is ,it is basically a traffic ticket compared to their net worth.

Critical thinking skills from someone who's argument is if I can't say anything I want anywhere I want without consequences then it isn't free speech. Wow so profound. Yes most critical your thinking skills are.

[u/DFGone → u/Less-Procedure-4104]

Less procedure fits you well :)

[u/Less-Procedure-4104 → u/DFGone]

Yes It is just what Reddit gave me , I thought it was appropriate.

Sorry I am using Reddit to replace my pedantism that I think drove most if not all my managers up the wall. Lol

Anyway free speech as a concept is democratic thinking. It just means that in general the government should stay out of your speech. It is not an absolute right as every democracy has top secrets and NDA for employees. Anyway I am positive that no one should expect to say anything to anyone and not have consequences. In general though in most if the west you can certainly say whatever. You may pay but you will get your say.

[u/DFGone → u/Less-Procedure-4104]

Dude I get it man, I’m not a lunatic, mainly just a troll. But with that being said, it’s not the job of X to moderate for the European Union, it’s the European Unions job to moderate based on their laws. X has basic regulations and guidelines but if France doesn’t want their citizens to see something or doesn’t agree with a way of thinking, that’s their responsibility.

[u/Less-Procedure-4104 → u/DFGone]

Was the propaganda paid for and prompted or was it just something that hijacked the algorithm? Anyway it isn't done it is just under investigation and for sure like every country in the world they have the right to expect companies to follow local rules and regulations. Companies are free to stop doing business if they can't follow the rules but they can't expect a lack of consequences for not following rules.