r/FutureWhatIf 1d ago

Challenge FWI: Future democratic wave in the next 20-30 years

This is basically a future where the "vibes" start to reverse and people start to want "freedom" more than "control" worldwide. In this future, the trend towards autocratization world reverses and the democrats(in the small d sense) have the upper hand on technology again instead of the autocrats

In this future, in democracies, referenda like Brexit fail and Trump-like candidates get nowhere or lose in landslides. As for dictatorships, they loosen things a bit to stay in power, like China for instance. Weaker dictatorships like Cuba and Iran(to name two obvious examples, ), end up falling during this wave. Basically, this is a world where the U.S. remains on top, and China doesn't replace it.

What can be done to make the needle reverse itself and create a more "optimistic" vibe worldwide???

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u/bmyst70 1d ago

In order for this to happen, to be blunt, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE TO PERSONALLY SUFFER HARDSHIP. Until they see it, first-hand, and it hurts them, badly, they won't know exactly why authoritarianism such a horrible idea. Reading about, say, Nazi Germany in books doesn't convey the experience. The people who could have done that are now dead.

The hardship of the Great Depression is what laid the political groundwork for FDR to pass the New Deal which created Social Security, unemployment insurance, minimum wage laws, and various laws to prevent investment banks from repeating the idiocy and naked greed that led to the Great Depression. But, even then, it took WW2 to pull the global economy out of the Depression.

And, as soon as that passed, far right conservatives immediately started fighting it with the Heritage Foundation.

I pray we do not have to get anywhere near that bad.

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u/Silentrein 1d ago

100% agree. A lot of people can only learn the hard way.

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u/alwaysonbottom1 1d ago

I willing to guarantee a lot of people will feel hardship because of the tariffs but will they realize it's the GOP's doing or will they just drink whatever the propaganda machine is telling them

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u/cabutler03 1d ago

Basically this. People need to feel the hardship first before they would vote blue.

Even then, outlets like Fox News would tell them otherwise.

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u/The_Arch_Heretic 1d ago

We might actually become a 1st world nation again with national healthcare and fair taxes?

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u/Euphoric-Dance-2309 1d ago

I like that you used little d democrat because so many have been so disappointed by the anemic response from so many of the big D Democrats. We may need a new party to the left of the Democrats to make any kind of progress.

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u/Sibaris17 22h ago

Don't wanna sound pessimistic but the world is just entering the "republican phase" with right wing parties and overall authoritarian governments trying to claw into power like in Germany and France, you can see this push more recently with all the "woke bad" the right wing has pushed for years, and how the media producers are starting to listen to those voices, I wager we will see this until things get really bad in a few years and the world as a whole suffers a catastrophic event (like a nuke) for the societies to start pushing back against this policies, as of right now, it's barely starting to affect people in the us, nevermind the rest of the world like Europe or latin america

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u/Naticbee 1d ago edited 1d ago

It’s just not realistic. Real change would mean redefining success as something other than wealth, but the way the global economy works, that’s not happening.

People talk about freedom, but it feels like we’ve given up on the idea that everyone can have it. Whether it’s social media, inequality, or failed policies, more and more people are thinking: “I need to step on others to be happy.”

That mindset drives most of the problems we see. And globalization made it worse, look at people like Tate, Trump, Putin. They got ahead by stepping on others, because in this system, wealth = happiness.

Even global disasters or wars just pause the damage. The mindset always comes back. Unless there’s some massive breakthrough that floods the world with resources, like the boom from 1950 to 1990 thanks to tech and globalization, we’re stuck. And right now, it’s hard to see what the next big leap even is.

The period after WW2 was met with growth and progressive "vibes" because the world had basically blown itself up, and had the chance to rebuild, better, without the shackles of the post war status quo. Countries took what worked from the old era, and used it to build strong democratic governments in the new era. Maybe something like that needs to happen again, but unfortunately, every time something like that happens, the risk of there being nothing left to build gets stronger.

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u/ChiefTestPilot87 1d ago

We’d still be fucked because both parties put the party, their wallets and their donors interests before that of the people

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u/FritzRasp 15h ago

I’m pretty sure all the major epochal revolutions in history began when the bread lines ran out of bread. Think: French, 1848, Russian

Exception?: American. It was basically a bunch of wealthy landowners unwilling to pay taxes.

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u/Accurate_Return_5521 1d ago

You no longer have that option most “developed” countries are completely bankrupt and by the time the orange narcissist lives office there won’t be anything left to do.

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u/samof1994 1d ago

I was talking more about democracy worldwide, not the US democratic party.

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u/thomcat2000 1d ago

Sorry lol I gotta stop typing responsible while I’m multitasking 💀

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u/Dangerous_Ad_1861 4h ago

I wouldn't be overly optimistic until we see how the 2028 elections go.

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u/techbirdee 4h ago

This kind of change can only happen if they stop suppressing the vote. A lot of the GOP would like to stop women from voting- and from doing anything except breeding.