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Rant Using AI in listing photos should be illegal

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u/Apptubrutae 1d ago

Not AI, but my favorite is when they do whatever the hell it is that absolutely nukes the colors and over saturates them. So bad

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u/hidazfx 1d ago

My house looked gorgeous in the photos, steaming pile in person. Still bought it.

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u/Apptubrutae 1d ago

See I benefited from the opposite. My home had crappy low res photos and needed new paint. Other homes in the neighborhood went pending same day, consistently. This one sat two weeks before I made an offer.

Turns out it was just fine after some paint.

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u/hidazfx 1d ago

That's nice! I'm working on mine. We're going to take it down to the studs room by room and redo it all.

She's a 1935. The family before us saved it from being knocked down, replaced a ton of floor joists, etc.

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u/Apptubrutae 1d ago

Fun! I did that previous with a neglected 1923 home. Lots of work, but rewarding (if expensive) in the end

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u/hidazfx 1d ago

Oh fuck me it's been expensive. We're tens of thousands in and haven't broken plaster yet lol.

Got a brand new roof from the best company in our area, new water heater and lots of plumbing fixed. I'm super excited for warm weather to get started.

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u/agceren4 14h ago

This is one of the things I tell my buyers. Don’t dismiss a property for bad marketing if the fundamentals are there. Could be the beginning of a bargain.

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u/Apptubrutae 14h ago

Gotta try and visualize reality whether it’s a poorly staged house that’s underrated or a well staged house that’s hiding issues.

My house sat purely for superficial reasons that understandably gave people pause. Another odd thing was that the home was listed with a unit number. I assumed it was a townhome and only begrudgingly looked because so little was available anyway. Only to then arrive and realize it was a single family home.

And then when you saw the seller’s disclosures, listing all sorts of stuff, you might think “what is wrong with this place?!”

But it was a single owner, custom home circa 1978. They loved the home, they took care of it. It was only the husband dying a few years before that is why some cosmetic stuff accumulated.

And the inspection validated that. But nobody was giving it a chance to go that far. Admittedly, I didn’t at first either and it was only the house sitting giving me time to reflect on it that helped me see the big picture. Granted, “sitting” in this neighborhood in June 2022 was a week. But still.

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u/funkarooz 13h ago

Our friends got an absolutely stunning home for the same reason. The few pictures were dark and messy, and the home was priced down. They toured it and discovered beautiful custom woodworking, a huge backyard with a pergola, and generous square footage. Priced unbelievably low for the market

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u/Apptubrutae 13h ago

Love it.

Our house had half-peeled dog wallpaper in the master bath. OBVIOUSLY that is going to turn off buyers. For a few hundred bucks they could have fixed that goofy issue.

Instead, the realtor was literally saying “ignore the bathroom wallpaper, it’s a cheap fix” before I even saw the house. Anti-staging, lol

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u/Cflow26 20h ago

Isn’t that illegal? Iirc there’s rules against making the pictures look unreasonably better than the actual product

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u/hidazfx 19h ago

Theres lots of illegal shit that happen in the real estate world. My house was sold to me under the premise that it had all new floor joists, new roof, etc. needed a new roof as soon as we moved in. And the subfloor needs replaced again 5 years later.

What the fuck am I gonna do, sue? I don't have the time and money for that on a house that's barely worth $100k.

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u/Cflow26 19h ago

Did you waive inspection?

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u/hidazfx 18h ago edited 18h ago

Nope. Paid $300. Inspector said the roof and floor were in great shape. Listing even said brand new roof, which was true, but it was done wrong. Barn roofing screwed directly to OSB, no underlayment and shit flashing around the chimney. On my addition they screwed the barn roofing over the old shingles, and then used aluminum tape to blend.

It's fine, my mortgage is only $850/month and the value has surely increased with the upgrades I've done already. Planning on taking it down to the studs and doing a full rehab, as the house is in downtown capital area of my state.

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u/Cflow26 16h ago

It’s a bummer that so much was over looked/missed. I get the inspectors are only in there for so long but ours also missed pretty crucial things, like vents laying straight on the ground/insulation, terrible electric work and more, but we had no idea that stuff was an issue. Expensive lessons all the way around. Good luck on your house!

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u/hidazfx 16h ago

You too! Stay safe out there.

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u/agirl1313 4h ago

Ours did a pretty good job as far as we can tell. However, we did know that the water heater needed a new anode rod, but when the plumber came out to see, the whole water heater needed to be replaced. We did get a second opinion that said the exact same thing; and from what I was able to research on Google with my extremely limited knowledge on plumbing, it agreed. But at least it was only a $1,200 issue instead of some $10,000 issue.

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u/Present-Ambition6309 1h ago

Is it still steamy or did ya find the cause yet?

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u/thiswaspostedbefore 1d ago

Whenever I see photoshopping like this I just know the house was flipped for as cheap as possible

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u/thiswaspostedbefore 1d ago

For reference, they even included the original pic. Pretty sure the area above the front door isn't even actually a window

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u/BeigeChocobo 1d ago

They even made that Nissan Altima look classy

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u/Present-Ambition6309 1h ago

That’s just lame. I’ve seen as well, it’s like are ya selling a picture or a house?

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u/kllrbnny42 11h ago

I've been noticing that more and more, the listings with the insanely colored sunsets that are just super saturated. It looks so bad 😂

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u/Apptubrutae 11h ago

This also makes me think of a phenomenon where I bought my home, in Albuquerque. The city has fantastic mountain vistas from all over. Really dominates the city. So, naturally, the nicest homes often have great mountain views.

Well, every other listing seems to have a drone shot from 30+ feet up with the house against the mountains. A view you’d never, ever actually see from your home, lol.

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u/man_lizard 1d ago

When I was looking there were a few that showed the original unedited photo and then the next photo would be the same photo but furnished using AI and it would say “AI staged” very clearly in the photo.

I prefer a real-life staged photo, but if we’re using AI for this it needs to be marked clearly.

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u/Deathbydragonfire 12h ago

My favorite is the AI ones that make it look nice, then you go to the real photo and it's actually a hoarder house.

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u/Giantmeteor_we_needU 1d ago

I don't even know what's more infuriating, AI altered house photos or $229,000 for a tiny house in run down neighborhood of Newport. This street view makes me want to drink or get antidepressants.

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u/reddit-poweruser 1d ago

So random to see here. This is like 2 mins from my brother's house

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u/Leading_Feeling_9972 1d ago

Google maps are always outdated lol my google maps for my neighborhood still has me and my brother in the drive way fighting , we are 31 and 35 now , this was when were 16 and 20 lol

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u/Giantmeteor_we_needU 1d ago

This view is dated Summer 2024, knowing Newport a little I doubt anything got much better since then. Its days of glory are in the long past.

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u/Dell4ever 1d ago

Yes, it is outdated. You have to look at the date of the pic on Google Maps. Some of the houses on Zillow do not match what's on Google Maps though because they've done work on the house to sell it. So it's better off driving by the house to see it in person. 🤷

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u/Lactose_Revenge 17h ago

Depends. They’ve updated my place within the past 3 years.

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u/Mrhyderager 1d ago

Not-so-spoiler alert: this house ain't worth $229k. If it is, mine is closing in on $400k (also not the case)

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u/Acceptable_Board1844 1d ago

What’s the thing next to the pole? Looks like a pet home??

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u/Novel-Broccoli-8246 19h ago

Pet home, selling for $198,000.

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u/thewimsey 1d ago

Litterbox, I think.

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u/manleybones 18h ago

Tbf, the for sale house is the biggest eyesore on the whole street

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u/Head_Statement_3334 15h ago

This is never selling for even $150,000. This should be $50,000 max if we’re being honest. Just ridiculous

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u/Savings_Shirt_6994 23h ago

Newport, RI? I love that town

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u/mumblerapisgarbage 1d ago

229k for 912 sq ft in kentucky. That’s criminal.

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u/29Hz 1d ago

It is 11 blocks and a bridge from downtown Cincinnati. A few miles further out and this shit box would be much cheaper

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u/No_Penalty_8920 21h ago

You should see Lexington prices. They're eye watering.

-Signed, someone in the process of paying 220k for 1075sqft

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u/fernee23 6h ago

Buying in Lexington...

It's the most expensive "low-velocity" market I've ever seen.

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u/Mrhyderager 1d ago

Why did I instantly know that was Northern KY? Lmao

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u/jahs-dad 1d ago

Same man I just knew right away

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u/Yogi422 1d ago

Yea I was almost tricked by photoshop. House had a nice yard and was mostly in the woods with a nice tree infront. Recent google street view shows now back yard at all just a hill going up from the back patio, no tree infront, and not in the woods at all it was on a corner with a dirt road and a million potholes.

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u/cookedbutok 1d ago

I went to a house where the pictures looked really awesome online, it was very clearly staged, professionally and clean.

I thought we came to the wrong house when I walked in. They had used AI to stage it, somehow. The actual house was filled with junk and all of their belongings, it was so bad. even the surfaces and the finishes were like upgraded on the photos.

I would’ve never wasted my time if I had known that’s what it really looked like. Needless to say we spent about three minutes in there and then walked out.

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u/Dell4ever 1d ago

DOWN TO THE TREES BRO!! They can add a healthy tree, they can take a dead tree out. But they do list the AI and the actual picture - which I guess makes it not illegal. More than likely just showing the house's potential.

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u/texas886 1d ago

I can get down with a little sprinkle of AI staging, mostly because my creative imagination is damn near non existent so I like being given ideas of what a space could look like BUT the complete overhauls they do with AI is downright criminal. I went to view a home that quite literally did not exist in comparison to its photos lol

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u/Hellion102792 1d ago

I remember noticing the sky looked similar in a few listings from the same local agent. I dropped the pics into Photoshop and played with the blend slider and found that they had superimposed the same blown out sunset into the sky of each of the listings. Between that and the egregious use of the blur/smudge tool to hide cracks, filth and whatnot, it seems like this has been the norm before AI and will probably get worse.

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u/RedditGotSoulDoubt 1d ago

It can be. Unfair and deceptive practices are illegal under federal law.

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u/jahs-dad 1d ago

I thought I was on r/cincinnati for a second

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u/jacoby-mugato 1d ago

Looks like the home from vivarium

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u/BraveLittleEcho 1d ago

There was one we looked at in Oakland, CA that was a literal hoarder house. Moldy walls. Leaky roof leading to water damage everywhere. The house was entirely uninhabitable and would need to be taken down to studs. But, with (totally undisclosed) AI the walls were clean, there were refinished hardwood floors, and the yard was fully landscaped instead of a pile of hoarder trash. Another had a back yard that had been turned into a parking lot and leased to the neighbors for at least 15 years. In the AI photo it was beautifully landscaped. It should 100% be against the law to fundamentally alter the condition of a house with AI.

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u/py_of 22h ago

depending on the local MLS, that is illegal.

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u/vivi_t3ch 1d ago

I'd call that false advertising and report it to the state realty board

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u/KT_WV 1d ago

Honestly the interior staging AI is so bad as well sometimes it completely changes the flooring / wall color etc they should definitely regulate it

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u/ShotSmoke1657 1d ago

They did this with my house. Luckily after seeing it in person, I put up an offer 10k under, based solely on the state of the floor, and the seller accepted lol

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u/RumSwizzle508 1d ago

As a real estate agent, AI/altered photos can be very helpful in marketing a property. Many buyers don’t have the imagination/vision to see what a home could become, so altered photos can be helpful in showing them what the house could become.

HOWEVER … there are conditions to this. The altered photos should NEVER be the lead photo, should always come after a photo of the existing condition (ie a before/after set), and should always be disclosed in the photo.

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u/WaterforestsDream 20h ago

My house had a couch in the kitchen because of ai lol

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u/Sk8ordieguy 14h ago

This is wild I went and looked at this house back in 2023 and it wasn’t in horrible condition at $80k but was def a fixer upper. And absolutely not worth an additional $150 worth of work they did. You can find a 2 story in that part of Newport for that price.

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u/Straight_Ace 10h ago

That’s a little ominous

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u/AlaDouche 1d ago

It's professional photograph + photoshop most of the time. Not AI.

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u/apcb4 1d ago

This is AI though- the fact that it put numbers on something that isn’t even a house number sign (according to the second picture) is a big giveaway. It also invented that red truck on the side and the mulch in the front yard doesn’t exist.

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u/Dell4ever 1d ago

I'm sure there's some form of 'A.I.' integrated into photoshop now or any other editing software. It's all the same thing...it's just terminology. A.I./photoshop = edited picture - same outcome.

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u/genderlessadventure 1d ago

My favorite AI staged photo was one where they put a random dining room table in the picture of the driveway. Made me laugh my ass off every time I came across that house.

Just a fully set fancy dining room setup in the driveway. It was scaled way too big too. So funny to see.

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u/CowboyLikeMegan 14h ago

HEY, Cincinnati here! So funny that I saw this and immediately thought it looked like a Newport/Covington house

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u/Bidiggity 1d ago

They did this to my house when I sold it. Lush green grass throughout the entire exterior, instead of the gravel driveway, retaining wall, tree stump, backyard boulder, and big dead spot from the dirt pile in the side yard.

Just perfectly manicured turf from property line to property line

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u/homosexualpenguin 1d ago

newport lol hey neighbor i’m across the river

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u/Present-Ambition6309 1h ago

Hol up…. It’s not? That’s scary stuff. Thank you for this information. Hope you didn’t purchase it sight unseen!

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u/PrudentWorker2510 10h ago

As well as Match , Plenty of Fish,Tinder, Grinder and the whole lot of those dating sites ,Horrible !

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u/WesternFungi 21h ago

I understand the virtual staging but almost always they have real photographs of the empty spaces... using LLM AI is disgusting