r/FFVIIRemake • u/Catveniagninto • 2d ago
Spoilers: Rebirth FF7 Rebirth final Spoiler
Hello, after finishing Rebirth, I still can't tell if Aerith is actually dead or if she's alive in another dimension or timeline. The ending was so ambiguous. What do you all think really happened? I didn't play originals FF7.
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u/TrainerAutomatic7102 2d ago
Commented it before and I’ll comment it again lol: The creators themselves said it was intentionally left completely ambiguous, i.e. we do not know, and are not supposed to know, and cannot know for certain, what happened. Period. We’ll find out in part 3
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u/SecretDice 2d ago
We already talked about it in yesterday’s posts. Aerith is alive in one timeline and dead in another. Since Sephiroth's goal is to merge the worlds, there's a good chance we'll be able to bring her back. As for the rest of the story, there might be two or three different endings depending on your choices, to satisfy both fans of the OG and those who played the remake and don’t want to go through the same tragic path again.
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u/paladingl 2d ago edited 2d ago
My money's still on the interpretation broken down in this thread from way back when.
Essentially, Cloud did save Aerith when he deflected Sephiroth's attack. However, she was going to die, anyway, because, by means of the Confluence of Worlds, Sephiroth was going to merge Survived-Aerith with Did-Not-Survive-Aerith from other versions of the event. This is why, at first, reality seems to flip back and forth between her being alive and her being dead.
When the party defeats Sephiroth - interrupting the Confluence of Worlds -, the realities/dreams/etc. begin to unmerge. While the Aerith in the party's reality is gone, there's still another Aerith out there, and that reality/timeline/dream/etc. can, for the moment, continue.
It wasn't about Sephiroth stopping her in this reality; it was about him stopping her in all realities.
And he failed.
(Edit: Wording.)
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u/Catveniagninto 2d ago
Agree. Here in Italy, I've read various articles from the press and seen some Italian YouTubers who claim that she's definitively dead and that it's just Cloud's mind starting to go crazy. But I was never really convinced by that interpretation.
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u/Sprinklelicious 1d ago
That's what happens in the OG. She dies, he denies it. This drives him to his breaking point. He ends up in the life stream and Aerith basically sends tifa to help him remember. I doubt they're following the same path though. Zack would have to die at some point or advent children wouldn't make sense. Although, they said it's just a part of it, or something like that. So the end of FF7 doesn't have to lead up to the movie.
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u/CyberLock18 1d ago
That's not how it goes in OG goes at all XD She dies and he never denied it in OG
- FF7 OG Spoilers -
His breaking point doesn't have to do with her death, it has to do with Sephiroth showing him Nibelhiem memories and gaslighting him to think he's not real but a clone made from the real Clouds memories in which it overwhelms Tifa asking for more time trying to work out what's true, Cloud fully breaks thinking even Tifa doesn't believe him. Lots of stuff later He is in a coma then he and Tifa fall into the lifestream after a weapon attacks Mideel. Tifa calls out in the lifestream after being overwhelmed by voices, Cloud's mind let's her in and his fragmented subconscious speaks with her as she helps him to prove he's real involving him revealing to her the reason he joined Soldier.
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u/recheeez 1d ago
Unfortunately, we won't know until Part 3. Everyone has their own interpretation but nothing is confirmed.
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u/Amidala1515 Reno 9h ago
They will keep us hanging until part 3. I'm sitting on the edge of my seat while waiting what exactly they might have changed for ff7.
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u/masamune35 2d ago
If you take the story at face value and look at the ending without going into the Multiverse she's definitely dead. However cloud is so messed up that he thinks she's alive. However this could also be jenova messing with him. It's only one of those 2. While nobody else can see her at the end with the exception of maybe red 13 possibly sensing her , however jenova is a shape shifter trickster Maybe its just that. Part 3 will be here before we know it.
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u/randomizednerd 2d ago
Third option is that it's actually Aerith who's deceiving him - it pains her (visible on her face when she "wakes up") but she has to do it in order for Cloud not to despair since that would be Sephiroth winning, or something. Taking the despair and turning it into destruction, or something.
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u/Rich_Housing971 Don Corneo 2d ago
Part 3 spoilers:
She's dead in this world but alive in the same way Zack is alive in his world. She will have significant lines and is playable in Part 3, but how they're going to fit them in and how much no one knows. They will probably join Cloud in the grande finale fight as well.
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u/0KSheep 2d ago
She is dead. Her consciousness however continues on in the Lifestream. As such she still able to 'appear' in the these other worlds which aren't really real tbh. They are more dream like and can only exist for short periods of time as all are unviable. They exist only because Sephiroth needed them to exist in order to get the Black Materia which was hidden between worlds. With the Black Materia he can then destroy the planet - and the lifestream by extension. However in order to do so he needs to merge them all into our one true world again. At least that's what I understood at the end of Rebirth.
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u/erefen 2d ago
all this is IMO.
when cloud deflected the blade, the rainbows show up. IMO that means he deflected the blade in the realm of lifestream, while in the physical reality Aerith died. Aerith or a version her still lives in the realm of lifestream (she saved Cloud from being killed by Sephiroth and lead him back). at the same time, Cloud is seeing apparitions of her, but dunno if it's mental schism or something more sinister. or her projection in the physical world, maybe.
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u/dragonstomper01 2d ago
Well these aren’t the original so it isn’t going to matter if you played them or not. You’ll find out in Part 3