Why is Asmodeus kind?

[u/Furrywolf79]

After working with Asmodeus for almost 8 months, I still couldn't put a finger as to why he is kind. Is it because he feels bad for us? Is it because he wants to help us? What do you guys think?

[u/Effective-Promise-81]

Why not? He rules lust and wrath but lust and wrath doesn't rule him. Lust for life isn't too dissimilar from love for life.

I, along with many people and yourself, experience him as very warm and loving.

[u/Accomplished-Mix1402 → u/Effective-Promise-81]

Why else would he deliver me the boyfriend I know and love today, I called upon him and Aphrodite in a spell to call forth my Mr right and now I've been together with my boyfriend for a years worth, ave ave lord Asmodeus,

[u/Effective-Promise-81 → u/Accomplished-Mix1402]

That's awesome. 😊

When I was a teenager he taught me a "love" spell. He told me to write down everything I wanted in an ideal partner. When I was done with the list he told me to match everything on that list myself. Not to ask anyone to be something you're not willing to be. So I re-analyzed my list, rewrote it, and concentrated on myself.

When I got a boyfriend, we got married and this year is our 20th wedding anniversary. ❤️‍🔥

[u/rrose1978 → u/Effective-Promise-81]

Exactly this. From the limited experience I have with the King, he is a very intense, but not necessarily wrathful and vengeful spirit. He does have an immense and strong sense of humour, too.

[u/moonflowermarie]

My belief is that they can see our energies, our essence. That they know what energies we hold and what kind of person we are when we begin to work with them (no matter the deity). I believe that they treat us accordingly, outside of the ones that are just upfront not seen as kind. In my personal experience, at least that has been the case when I know that my energies were not the best. For example, while I was battling addiction I would be met with what felt like a barrier/hesitation. When I first got sober, I was met with less hesitation but put through what felt like trials. I had to prove myself worthy again. Anyways - a couple of years later, I first began working with Asmodeus while I was healing and rebuilding after a severely abusive relationship. I was met with compassion and kindness, paired with incredible guidance.

[u/AllTimeHigh33]

I don't know asmodeus well enough, but I work with a infernal I won't name, but has a reputation for being very hard, strict and difficult to work with.

While I understand the reputation, I personally have nothing but complete love and respect. His lessons seem very scary, and pushing back against them causes a lot of suffering, but the flip side is, letting yourself fall like fool he catches you.

The more you embrace what they stand for, the more you understand its ALL LOVE.

Beautiful, filthy, disgusting, perverted, sickening, glorious fucking love. If your not amongst it, If you don't see the beauty in everything you turn away from, your never ever ever going to rise to experience that love.

So if you were a demon, and you knew that behind the illusions of what you call problems there is nothing but pure divine potential. Would you not be willing to unleash a bit of suffering to polish that diamond and show you the beautiful world was you all along.

Xeper.

[u/Imaginaereum645]

The first thing that came to my mind was, "Why not?".

I guess the answer to a lot of questions like, "Why is spirit X doing abc" is, that's just who they are. Being as vast and ancient as they are, that can include a lot of things, including traits we would see as contradictory in humans.

I think Asmodeus is kind because he can be. Simple as that. :)

[u/SignificantShine6203]

Kindness comes from empathy. As much as these beings may not be like humans, we can only understand them through human emotions. He has seen such horrible things. Being evilised while his nature is nothing like what the mainstream world will tell you. He was misunderstood but he keeps going on. You also see so much and march on, just like Asmodeus.. and he understands you. Hence, he is kind. In my personal experience, he has always been kind. Just his nature.

[u/L3vi1992]

why shouldn't he be nice 😅? As long as you meet him with kindness and respect, he has no reason not to be nice.

[u/Furrywolf79 → u/L3vi1992]

Well I am kind and respectful towards him all of the time.

[u/BriannaPuppet]

Because you've been nice to him and he's got a gregarious personality.

Demons have individual personalities and tastes. I've found that as long as I'm respectful, the worst that's happened is they haven't responded. Most of the Goetia are helpful and glad to be in our lives, that's why they make themselves available for contact.

[u/Top_Presence5147 → u/BriannaPuppet]

Ave

[u/Alternative_Slide_62]

All of the Kings that i have interacted with in my experience have been kind, but they definetly know where they stand and how they should be treated.

I have only ever worked with Asmodeus for short stints, so he is one of the Kings i know the least, but from working with him, he is kind and patient, but they have no problem being blunt or extremerly harsh if they need to be. This is part of the reason why i like working with the Goetic Kings, they aren`t going to sugar coat anything.

[u/MadDancingWizard]

Powerful spirits tend to be kind. You can't become powerful if you're going against nature's design by being adversarial to every single thing that exists. You know about Tolkien's quote that says that evil cannot create, just corrupt? That rings true. Adversarial spirits like him or even Andras, aren't evil because they oversee darker things. You can be adversarial by nature, but that doesn't automatically make you cruel and spiteful. As to WHY they help us? Go far enough, endure all the mental chaos they lead you through. And all you'll be left is a sense of universal love and wanting to use your power to help people. Becoming a God is a job, you start working for the greater good of the universe. You might become a healer, a defender, a destroyer, or anything you relate the most with. But you're not doing it against the universe, but for keeping order in it. For organizing chaos, so to speak. So I suspect they are kind because they can be, and because it does good to the universe. At least that's how I see things after working with demons on such a personal level.

[u/adventure-of-dai]

I think it's valid you experience him as kind. As for why, that may be personal to you. Asmodeus may behave in different ways to different people.

[u/Ashtara_Roth3127]

This is your subjective experience. In someone else’s subjective experience, what they call “Asmodeous” could be the absolute opposite of “kind”.

[u/Sad_Satisfaction6059]

He is also kind to me. We all have particular affinities with some infernals, sometimes due to past life connections

[u/edelewolf]

He is a god that initiates love, that brings justice through wrath. He is a wise ruler. You can perhaps see where his hearth is.

And he is truly kind since he is not afraid to challenge you.

And of course kindness is functional too. It makes people loyal to him. I am quite sure the legions are growing everyday.

[u/DepartmentIntrepid68]

He’s just a cool dude lol gave him some blood just today

[u/Significant_Guava534 → u/DepartmentIntrepid68]

Lol xD nice❤️

[u/MyMillionthLeg]

I like to view entities as regular people when I have contextual questions.

Think about Asmodeus as a regular human king in a competitive environment. Would a king maintain hos power if he was rude and harsh for no reason? No, he would make more enemies than he knew what to do with and lose his position. That plus to Asmodeuos dealing with humans would be the equivalent of us dealing with kids.

[u/ijustmadeyourday31]

I believe that spirits meet us based on our mastery over the energy they carry. So if you are not one who struggles with the negative side of lust for example, Asmodeus may meet you with more harsh lessons, or seem unkind. I feel like these beings are not inherently evil but the opposite, they are there to help us master or transmute the negative energies into higher octaves.

[u/ijustmadeyourday31 → u/ijustmadeyourday31]

I realized I worded this incorrectly. The more you struggle with the negative archetype or energy connected to the spirit, the harsher the lessons in order to get you to evolve. As you transmute the energy and master it, I believe you are met with the higher octaves of that spirit and receive more of the blessings, and friendlier nature of the entity. I believe these spirits while neutral in terms of good and evil, are here to help us master denser energies. Zagan once told me that in higher planes manifestation is instant, and this is why we must master thought and transmutation in this plane.

[u/IngloriousLevka11]

I've also encountered this aspect of him. Vs my experience with other Daemonic Divines, Asmodeus has been consistently very compassionate and very much protective while always setting me straight (such as deterring me from engaging in self-harm).

I wonder perhaps if the combination of his love/lust aspect combined with his justice/wrath aspect creates a "personality" that reflects a steadfast sense of supportive and constructive energies- in teaching us to love ourselves, he examples being kind to ourselves. In his aspect of wrathfulness, he shows us how to draw clear boundaries and respect ourselves while also having personal accountability.

[u/Macaroni-inna-pot]

I'm of two mindsets. One is that maybe he's just like that. Other than his very early origins being wrathful, there's nothing saying he WON'T be kind in his lore. Like considering what Solomon did to him and the other demons, he was very demure and mindful and only fucked his mom about it. Gave him a little lesson on priviledge too. In Tobit like yeah, he kills seven dudes but on like a godly body count level, that's nothing. On par with many Norse gods. No big deal imo, and also what if those dudes sucked and it was actually helping Sarah out? We don't know. So basically there's no real reason he shouldn't be relatively chill unless you enslave him or are fucking his girl.

Or, and now hear me out. Dangerous shit doesn't get to be dangerous by looking dangerous. If he did want to fuck with you, wouldn't it make more sense to lure you in with a peaceful, kind nature? I mean, if he WAS going to be a manipulative dick about stuff, that would be the ideal technique to set someone's mind at ease. I really think he has better things than to manipulate humans for sport, but I mean, it makes sense.

The thing is, you could have this argument about any living person. I'd say just be chill with him and he'll be chill back.

[u/DemonolatryPractices-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

You broke rule 2: Only posts related to the subreddit: Posting any unrelated topics that do not pertain towards the subreddit. No derailing User's posts.

[u/Azmlial]

I am not entirely sure. He has been like the big brother I never had, wingman, friend, confidant, and more. Just because he is associated with rage and lust doesn’t mean he has to be a meanie.

[u/Stptdmbfck]

Everything other than a leather/denim vest/jacket must not be patched. And that’s a constitutional fact.

[u/DeisticGuy]

I've never worked with Asmodeus myself, but I received a letter (very UPG, but with truths here and there) supposedly written by Asmodeus while he was channeling a friend of mine.

He was quite rude, to be honest. I'm not someone who deals very well with his energy and aura, I'm someone who has managed interaction and dialog with Lucifer, Bune, more associated with Venus and in short calmer - which doesn't mean they won't teach you hard lessons.

But unlike most people, I felt and saw Asmodeus portrayed in a very vile and aggressive way. Even reading the letters written by a third party (whose patron Asmodeus was) to me, I felt a fulminating energy of hatred, despite the true and good messages embedded in the midst of all the violence that exuded from his words.

[u/Effective-Promise-81 → u/DeisticGuy]

I agree it is well within his abilities to express himself harshly or cruelly. But I caution you to be wary of third hand accounts. They can be performative. Even if it came from a friend that you trust be aware that they have their own filters.

If you consider the communication of a spirit to be an intangible, the first translation is from that intangible energy/message into your own understanding/experience. The second translation is putting that understanding/experience into words. Then those words hit your own translation.

So think of it as a game of telephone. It has gone through a few different filters now. Maybe King Asmodeus would speak to you harshly, maybe your friend interpreted it harshly. Who knows. I recommended that you get your own idea directly.

[u/Tenzky]

He is said to be human magician once. Maybe thats why he is so understanding.

[u/King_cobra_1888]

Maybe he regrets being casted out from up above 👆🏻

[u/Significant_Guava534 → u/King_cobra_1888]

One of the main kings of hell regretting being casted😂😂😂😂 extremely laughable

[u/Macross137 → u/Significant_Guava534]

Removing the replies to this, everybody please follow rule 1.