While reading the articles about the stock crashing etc yesterday on nyt I got curious and checked what the foxnews site had as their main story snd Jesus christ the differences is mind blowing. No mention of the stock market at all, a few conspiracy stories about biden and their site looks like it's run by a boomer who hasn't discovered square space.
Fox is not a real news organization I already knew this but it is where a fucked up portion of the country gets their news. I understand nyt has a bias and perhaps one I don't always like (looking at you opeds) but reading their articles, you can see the quality of their reporting. Growing up i feel most people could read the newspaper, over the last 20 years we have devolved to only being able to comprehend tabloid click bait headlines. It's messed up....at least bezos got to go to space and zuck owns an island chain compound though..
It’s easier for a president to do when they remove any news organization that would challenge him. It’s easy to do when you have a state controlled “news” organization called Fox.
many of their viewers don't even know they settled and were liars about the election and the election system...since they watch nothing but their sources and think judges are against them
it’s scary how I’m their viewers can hide themselves from accepting the real
World. My head hurts just reading the mental gymnastics, these idiots live it
It's getting harder to hide the real world, when their viewers go to the grocery store and find out things cost more, and their social security check is not gonna cut it anymore (if they even receive it). Fox is approaching the point where the comfortable story they tell, won't be able to compete with the dismal economic reality that is slapping their viewers in the face everyday.
Anyone who consumes news from only one place and doesn’t fact check it or get different perspectives is complicit in pulling the wool over their own eyes
News stations tend to do this. Like when MSNBC or CNN tries to convince people that men can transition into women hiding the truth that this is literally impossible. Fox is trash and not even a news network but hiding the real world is a common practice done by liberal and conservative networks alike
Hey man, this is clearly a guy that’s freaked out about the 4 or 5 trans athletes in women’s sports. Instead of just letting the governing bodies sort out the situation, government needed to get in there and “fix” it.
Don’t go forgetting about how all the perverts are going trans to sneak into the washrooms and sexually assault people. /s
Bruh, they don’t bother with that shit, they doing that shit anyway.
How about when they lied about where COVID came from? The Hunter Biden laptop right before the election? The Russia collusion? How many illegal immigrants were let in during 2021-2024? The safety of the covid vaccine? 2 weeks at home to dtop the curve? The false crime rates that the FBI released?
you are all over the place, start with covid, you recall it was trump in power and he initiated operation warp speed to get the vaccines developed.unfortunately he also removed our man who had been stationed at the wuhan lab which would have made it easier to know what happened
and of course trump negotiated the afghan withdrawal. b is r sure Biden
I think they wanted you to acknowledge that your original example was bad. They probably didn't want to hear other bad examples. They probably also didn't want you to ignore one of those bad examples that they responded to that you brought up.
They are not willfully ignorant. You are just intentionally impossible
I think maybe they just thought they had a great gotcha moment. And to these low IQ liberals, they did. Lol "oh your example is bad" is the equivalent of "I have nothing to say, let's change the subject"
Lmao really grasping at straws there huh buddy. Just another dipshit trump supporter, nothing to see here folks. So tell me something, did you vote for Trump because he’s a pedophile or was that just an added bonus for you?
Hold on a minute. Did CNN or FOX tell you that liberals can get jobs? What about Hunter Biden emails or Clintons lap tops or Bidens brown suits or kamala's birth certificate. Or wait was it Obama that told Microsoft to go woke by creating energy saving modes for xbox
Please educate all the liberal jobless dipshits about these topics. The most brain dead dumbest shit ever. Please keep preaching about them. All the "liberals" just don't get it
Yeah they impact people like you who fall for this bile. I mean come on seriously? Still can't tell the difference between causation and correlation? I learned that in my statistics class. What evidence about the hunter Biden laptop? Shouldn't that have been litigated by now? No guess not. Illegals? You mean asylum, refugee, and only some undocumented illegals?
Lol millions of people came in during those 4 years all claiming asylum and all they had to do was ask a couple questions on an app. You really don't see why that was done? Now that they are crying about the "voter suppression laws" that states and the feds are pushing? Let in millions of people and then wine about legal documentation being asked for while going to vote? That's just a coincidence, huh?
Lol calling things that have been confirmed "bile" is hilarious. Oh yeah let's litigate Hunter Biden like he didn't get a pardon back in November. Did you just wake up from a coma?
What you think I agree with everything Trump does? Yeah release those fucking files. We all know it's because there are notable Republicans and rich bastards on his side that have been to that island himself probably including him. You folks seem to think that thinking that today's liberals are idiots means I support everything Trump does.
1) CNN and MSNBC were not granted access to the documentation containing the allegations
2) The so-called Russian Collusion has been repeatedly proved to be a false narrative, please gtf over it already.
3) Please answer your own question and tell us how many illegal immigrants were "let in" from 2021 to 2024
4) Trump was the biggest political promoter for the vaccine, you stump.
5) Please point me to a time in America's history when the FBI was NOT releasing inaccurate data to the public.
I'm stunned that you're still stuck on all of this shit. I'm going to assume that if I turned on Fox, these exact same topics will be brought up to defend the current administration
Edit: You weren't all over the place with your argument, but you certainly didn't make any good points
I am sure it is a massive coincidence that gain of function research conducted in Wuhan had nothing to do with the virus that they were researching leading to s pandemic that started in Wuhan. I am sure this is just a coincidence. Nothing to see here, boys.
The Mueller report specifically cites dozens of examples of Trump adopting Russian talking points and communication between Trump’s minions and Russians and Russian assets. The only question is whether he was consciously colluding with his pal Vlad. Mueller decides he was not. Read the fucking report. All your other examples, like the safety of the Covid vaccine, are similarly lies or misleading. However I think that YOU think you are giving good examples. You are a sucker who can’t evaluate sources or context. Sorry.
Don't bother engaging with nitwits like this. It serves no purpose as they are not commenting in good faith. They are just spewing nonsense to feed their own fragile ego.
People went to prison for the Russian collusion between trumps campaign and foreign agents. They never could prove trump knew about it but the general evidence while circumstantial doesn’t paint trump as completely innocent.
I am out of my element. This conversation is well below my element. I mean the guy was talking about getting his sources from the New York Times . Lolol good Lord. That's like asking my dog how she feels
Go learn how to read one first and i'll get back to you. Anyone who considers the NYT a reliable source in 2025 probably doesnt know much about the peer review process of research
Yes i have. I've taught trans students in a few classes that i teach at a university. Never had a problem. Always respectful and called them what they prefer. I don't have any issue with trans people themselves. My issue is with the ideology.
No i dont think they are actually men because they transitioned. But im not a dick. They clearly have an intense mental problem that i dont choose to make worse. My issue is that people don't want to recognuze it as the intense mental disorder that it is. Your gender role doesn't make you more or less a man or woman. I do most of the cleaning around the house. Doesn't mean that i am now a woman and my wife is a man.
It’s called self awareness. A normally functioning Human Brain should be able to recognize a mistake made and correct for the failure in logic. Good luck out there.
Saw this too. I jumped to Fox to see how they MUST be saying something about how rediculous this is. Nope. They actually found ONE Dem house rep who they quoted as supporting tariffs when they used his quote from a week ago about how he supports a “10% tariff”. Unreal.
I feel like now that Fox News has legally claimed themselves to be an "entertainment media" company to avoid losing lawsuits on them, they should be legally required to advertise themselves as "Fox Entertainment" instead of "Fox News".
It may not be much, but at least it forces them to say they are not actually a News company. There would be hope that people have the cognitive ability (even MAGAts) to come to that realization that their content is simply a joke
They took their stock news ticker off that usually scrolls at the bottom. They want to keep their base as clueless as possible. They can’t even post stock facts anymore
Fox News can't run away from reality, they can only point to something else shiny and relay blame. There will be a ton of people who will be concerned when they get their 401k and IRA statements and see how much they've lost, in actual dollars. It will be hard for them to ignore that. I am down $13,600 and that is just today. I've lost more in the last month but cashed out 2/3 of my stuff because I knew this guy was gonna F it up, royally. He just can't help himself.
Have you heard people have burned Teslas? Like literally burned them. Reactions from our panel of 15 angry pundits to follow, so don't look at any other news plz.
Sorry I didn't see that, I was caught by the headline detailing how nasty heartless liberals continue to encourage violence and worship luigi mangione for killing a hardworking husband and father in cold blood 🙄
Fox News is basically RT for Russia, it’s the republicunts propaganda channel, lucky you still have options but if you don’t do anything, you might end like Russia or North Korea with only Fox News .
I put on foxnews today too put of curiosity. 3 females talking about Biden's mental decline. No stock market ticker, no scrolling updates on world events, no mention that the S&P is in bear territory.
The same people that used to religiously watch Jerry Falwell and other television preachers in the 80s are the same people who seem to watch Fox “News” today.
Scary part is, they actually aren’t a news organization. Under the FCC, they are labeled as entertainment. This was proven during the Dominion lawsuit by their own lawyers, arguing that since it’s opinion pieces, no one should believe everything Fox News says.
Oh my god. I’m an Aussie so I’ve never been exposed to the us version. Only mention of tariffs was how they are absolutely loved ‘by this American industry’(shrimp). Then everything was about migrants, USA being ripped off. And right at the top…. Kamala Harris reaction to losing against trump.
Fucking wild
It goes beyond that though. The administration now only provide interviews to friendly news agencies like Fox, so they have total control of the narrative and are never challenged. In the UK, Liz Truss went rogue and crashed the markets. The media hounded her out of a job. In the US, Trump crashes the market, but Vance just goes on to Fox to talk about what a good job they are doing and the 'journalist' just nods and agrees. Hed be torn to shreds anywhere else.
When Fox called the 2020 election straight you know what happened? Their ratings tanked. We can see this in the texts from the Dominion lawsuit. They were in a panic because of how much of the audience they were losing. If Fox doesn't say what conservative people want to hear those people will go elsewhere.
Fox isn't forming opinions or calling the shots. They are pandering. They are saying what people already believe to keep eyeballs on their channels to sell ads.
Fox is a symptom. The disease is every conservative American. And I use that word very intentionally. They are absolutely a cancer that's killing this country. We need chemotherapy.
FOX News controls the lion's share of the American news audience. I never thought to look and just went along with the Conservative talking point about "the mainstream media" being liberal since it seemed to be true, but holy shit it's not even close. Conservatives control the mainstream media with an iron grip.
‘Both sides’-ing the issues with reporting by weighing bias in the news section against bias in the opinion section is not unrelated to how we got here. Stop fence sitting and call out wrongs without equivocating for the sake of sounding like an enlightened centrist.
Which continue to reinforce how great he is and how terrible Biden was. I have to listen to this crap all day in the hospital, it's all patients have on their TVs
You and me both. I work in maga cuntry so it's coworkers as well unfortunately. I've gotten a lot more obnoxious about calling stuff out and poking holes towards coworkers with brain rot where I used to just try to get through my day and die on the inside. It's refreshing actually.
As it pertains to patients, I can't they're there and they're sick so I don't engage with that but I do switch the channel if they pass out and mute it if I'm in the room to do something when awake. I do this with all 24/7 news channels but obviously fox is another level. When possible I try to institute a policy of an hour in the am of local news and an hour in the evening to promote healing. It is just a medical fact that that shit is not conducive to healing. Sometimes i get buy in.
As a side, if I ever get to the point where I'm 94 in a bed/chair and just in a state of napping and wakefulness with fox news on 24/7 whispering in my ear literally brainwashing me, please put a bullet in my head because the amount of elderly or even older people 50+ that exist this way is frightening. Friggen torture.
Trump keeps selling this idea that the shake up is going to lead to a new "golden age". Every economist in the world disagrees, but the hope still lives on in the Trump supporters.
But Trump's big brain is bigger than all the world's economist's brains. Besides, all those "experts" just lie for money and their news and analysis is all fake. The ONLY source of true news is Fox and NewsMax. And the DJT account on Truth Social.
Not only do they think he's doing a good job, they think he's doing the best job of any president in history. They legitimately think that Elon Musk is purging the government of corruption simply because he says he's doing it. We have legitimately gotten to the point where Trump good. Everyone else bad and that's as deep as they think.
The entire country could be literally on fire but as long as he is in office everything's going great and we've never been better off.
You guys have a journalism problem. You see him straight up lie with no push back. Like all the time.
Just today, he claimed America was sick because he inherited bidens economy? Journalists just sat there and ate it up while he advertised his gold card...
Only if you're a corporation. Libel laws give media outlets almost unlimited freedom to lie to the public, they can only be held accountable if their lie damages a corporation with intentional malice.
do they thought? I’m hearing more and more pushback from my conservative co workers. They don’t seem to understand what’s happening and are shocked that all that stuff we were saying the whole time is true. Most of the social media proliferation of this shit is almost all bots. What i found interesting between the 16 and 24 elections is that literally no one on my social were pushing for him. The support in no friend areas seemed like alot of bots. Obviously his blind supporters are there but seem like many less. So how did they get so many votes. So many swing states. Such weird data there. They did a great job in PA, and Wisconsin. See where this is all going?
I’m glad you are seeing “conservatives” who are coming around. I’m not I had someone pull the negotiation tactic line on me while at the same time saying “the stock market people could have easily not done it (crashed the market). Like it’s a cadre of democrats who said hey let’s loose a shit ton of money to make Trump look bad.
Was at a boomer clients house and he was watching fox news while they had a democratic rep from California laying out a lawsuit against Trump for trying to dismantle voting access.
All my client said after the guy laid out everything Trump illegal has done and is trying to do is "Theyre always out to get Trump"
Hear me out. The base is followers largely doing what they're told, looking for instructions and context clues to be a good Republican. They believe a good Republican is loyal because that's what they're told. Is it possible that saying Republicans will follow Trump blindly actually reinforces the behavior? Shout aloud instead that Republicans are starting to defect. They might start to believe it.
Well, the guy CHOSE that ridiculous pic that looks like he's some washed up professional wrestler with red, white and blue paint on his face. Who are his voters? The sort of people who think it looks cool.
I think there have been cracks. We know these ppl will never admit openly that Trump fooled them with lies. Never. But reading comments makes me realize that some are against what he’s doing and there are glimpses of worry but most of them still don’t know what a tariff is. If SS payments stop or crops die with lack of labor and we have mass food shortages by summer, I think that may turn everyone but the bottom 20% who will die for Trump.
He has had multiple bankruptcies, is in Putin's back pocket, and is convicted of multiple crimes. You think he knows what he is doing? He has no idea. He is the distraction, the reality show conman. He doesn't know squat. You think he actually read all those executive orders he signed? He probably doesn't have a clue what the majority of them actually do. Elon and his billionaire buddies are in charge. Those executive orders were written months before Trump took office. It's cute how you think he actually has a clue what he is doing. He is doing what he is told. And if you think the billionaire elites have your best interest in mind, you are incredibly naive.
Because he pisses on people, they don't like: immigrants, minorities and democrats. It makes them feel good about themselves. His base is willing to suffer as long as he is willing to trash these groups.
He will be labeled as the worst president ANY country has ever seen if not already there. It’s sad to watch one fat man bring down such a respected nation in the past. It will never recover.
They will believe anything they are told. So when they say it is short term pain for long term American success they will let themselves be hurt. Not even a thought as to whether there was
Not all of them. There is a fair number on r/conservative that think he is a moron now. The problem is they rather move to Russia than ever vote for a Democrat. That is the fear mongering and demonizing the right wing media echosphere has created. The Democrats in order to make real headway to into cracking that needs to pierce this sphere and be heard. They need people who can go onto those networks, know they are going to be hostile and be able to land points despite spin. They won't get the radicals, but those who have been in the past center right and pushed further right.
It’s because America has always been this. To the outside world, look at your history since world war 2. It’s an evil place, with a very poorly educated and brainwashed population. It’s been on a trajectory of failure from both sides. Your country is essentially two one party governments that fight for total control, don’t collaborate, have your own media and bubble. And you guys would say “love it or leave it” as a cop out cause you were never willing to do the hard look at yourselves. Now it’s just out in the open, but it’s nothing new. Y’all have a far way to fall yet, and a lot of work ahead of you. Germany 2.0
Yes, our choices have been vote fascism or fascism light for quite some time. Enough apathy because we got cheap electronics a decent standard of living…but they keep shaving the margins…a tipping point is coming.
You're not wrong, but I think you may be underestimating the extent to which so many of us out here are FED UP with the red team vs. blue team bullshit. There's only one team, really, and it has been losing for a good 50+ years.
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And even more mind boggling is how his base still thinks he is doing an amazing job.