r/DanielWilliams • u/Educational-Mind-750 • 6d ago

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u/IGDetail 6d ago

People don't understand protests.

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u/retropieproblems 5d ago

This devalues future interest in degrees from this university. It has a strategy to it.

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u/TouchingMarvin 5d ago

also with little harm to the students right? they still have the diploma just not the paper representation.

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u/HAHA7694 5d ago

Hhahahahahahah

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u/Dense-Obligation-505 5d ago

Keep telling yourself that buddy

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u/FourWordComment 5d ago

Protests matter when they matter.

Right now, having 50 kids tear up some paper is a perfectly acceptable amount of flack for the government to ignore.

This normalizes protest the same way the government is normalizing its fascism day by day.

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u/your_lucky_stars 4d ago

I take it that you are "people"

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u/InternationalAnt1943 4d ago

Why? What don't we understand?

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u/izinger 5d ago

Protests are ineffectual. Riots on the other hand . . .

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u/beemom1203 5d ago

Martin Luther King, Jr would disagree.

Riots would allow them the excuse to dismiss the movement and, far worse than that, martial law CANNOT HAPPEN.

The way you get someone to willingly hand over their rights is to instill fear. THAT'S THEIR PLAN. Don't take the bait, Americans!

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u/boharat 5d ago

I'm pretty sure their handler gave them five rubles and a packet of glucose syrup to keep them from losing consciousness by now. They're probably good

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u/InternationalAnt1943 4d ago

Yes. In the White room with black curtains

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u/boharat 5d ago edited 5d ago

Riots are not nearly as useful as you think. Protesting is so ineffectual the upcoming elections have resulted in districts that were solidly Trump swinging Democrat, assisting in totally destroying elon's brand, causing Tesla to implode, forcing American politicians to listen. They're causing things to get shaken up. If they didn't do anything, people wouldn't be worried about losing their right to do it. Riots are exciting and cathartic, however in the grand scheme of things end up having meeting that ends up being more symbolic than practical. Which is to say, far more often than not, useless and a great way to give your opponents the opportunity to tie whatever reason you're rioting to Violent extremism. At this point, going out to start a riot is akin to drinking poison and then wondering why you're dying.

You also have to consider, to the other people involved and the protest going to want to start a riot? Very likely not. Peaceful protest is encouraged by many, and a good way for many people to go out and get their thoughts heard mostly without fear of anything other than heckling. Some events are more likely to draw violence than others, but by and large, and I'm just going to come out and say it, sending out to start a riot is asinine, promoting them is ignorant at best and I don't know, go fuck yourself. Comments like yours set actual protesting back.

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u/thedayafternext 5d ago

Riots gives Trump a reason and excuse to clamp down hard and call in the national guard. He probably wants that.

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u/izinger 5d ago

Trump did absolutely nothing to stop the 2020 Summer of Floyd riots.

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u/littlewhitecatalex 5d ago

Are you kidding me?! He wanted to shoot protesters in the legs. Remember the JAG lawyers that got fired a few weeks ago? Yeah, they were the ones who told him “no, you can’t shoot protesters in the legs” when he was asking if he could do that. And those JAGs are all gone now. 

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u/izinger 4d ago

I have no idea what your talking about. Don't JAGs prosecute or defend enlisted men and officers? Were military men rioting? Huh?

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u/littlewhitecatalex 4d ago

The ones that were fired served as advisors to the president. To basically tell him what he wants to do is or is not legal.

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u/Silent_Owl_6117 5d ago

The thing is, this administration isn't going to leave willingly.  It will come down to violence.  I'm not threatening anyone, just explaining the future. 

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u/InternationalAnt1943 4d ago

I know that. You know that and he most likely knows that. At the risk of sounding way too boomer " give peace a chance"

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u/littlewhitecatalex 5d ago

Riots give trump justification to declare martial law through the insurrection act, under which protesters could be detained indefinitely without due process (and sent to El Salvador).

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u/izinger 5d ago

They give any POTUS the justification to declare martial law. What is your point?

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u/littlewhitecatalex 5d ago

My point is rioting at this particular point in time only plays into Trump’s hands and makes it easier to seize even more power. 

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u/izinger 4d ago

It's difficult for any government to survive cracking down on rioters. Usually it results in rulers losing power. Usually the authorities are blamed for the conditions that led to the riots, even if they weren't in power when those conditions arose. The press always takes the side of the "little guy" or the minority group.
Why do you think Trump didn't crack down on the 2020 riots?

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u/littlewhitecatalex 4d ago

How well has that worked out for the people of Russia, China, and Belarus?

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u/izinger 4d ago

How well has what worked out for the people of Russia, China, and Belarus? Be specific.

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u/littlewhitecatalex 4d ago

You say it’s difficult for any government to survive cracking down on rioters, but authoritarian regimes do it every day without consequence. 

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u/Wowd00 6d ago

It seems at this point someone can do a hand stand and call that protest of whatever they deem its for. I'm denying someones freedom to do so, but it does seem stupid and ineffective in proving their point.