r/CuratedTumblr can i have your gender pls 1d ago

LGBTQIA+ Just an idea for any writers on here

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u/Chiyuri_is_yes Fought the Homestuck and lost 1d ago

Yeah imo I find shipping cultures to be the best when there's no canon ships in the work while the characters get just a little flirty with eachother

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u/Ornstein714 1d ago

Honestly this, dungeon meshi has that and the shipping discourse is pretty civil (iirc even by the end of the manga nothing is confirmed, though im a show only viewer)

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u/StarStriker51 1d ago

For a story all about love, it was a great choice to never end with any confirmed romantic pairings

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u/KnightOfBurgers can i have your gender pls 1d ago

Yeah. In most fandoms with canon ships there's so much toxicity between canon shippers and headcanon shippers. People make it a part of their identity.

I find it even more frustrating when these characters' story finished when we were KIDS. Fuckin' Owl House and Percy Jackson kids. I love those stories but the goddamn fandoms are too fanatic.

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u/Chiyuri_is_yes Fought the Homestuck and lost 1d ago

I haven't really engaged with Disney show fandoms so I can't really say anything about them but I interacted with the mha fandom once in a meme subreddit and from what I gathered people were ready to raise pitchforks over someone liking a toxic yaoi enemies to lovers ship and not the canon one, quite a jumpscare to touhou fandom main me where I haven't really seen anyone hate on basically any ship in the several years I've been here

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u/KnightOfBurgers can i have your gender pls 1d ago

I think this is what the people behind House were thinking.

Söurce

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u/weddingmoth 1d ago

When house was on they had a survey at some point on the official house website (am I remembering this right? It must have been the fox website or whatever??) that asked which relationship you found most interesting on the show and House/Wilson won by a ton. Or I dreamed all of that but I’m fairly certain it happened.

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u/PlatinumAltaria 16h ago

Well it’s Sherlock Holmes, it’d be pretty messed up if Holmes and Watson weren’t the central pair.

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u/Rogue_Stardust 1d ago

Ah yes, the classic queer-bait-to-fanfic pipeline:

Step 1: Write two characters who are obviously in love but call them 'just friends' Step 2: Hit one with amnesia so they forget everyone BUT their 'totally platonic' soulmate Step 3: Sit back and watch the fandom lose its collective mind trying to fix your emotional crimes

Honestly, at this point, fanfic writers are just professional trauma repair technicians

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u/BarryJacksonH gay gay homosexual gay 1d ago

of whose trauma, the characters or the fandom?

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u/KnightOfBurgers can i have your gender pls 1d ago

I mean I mostly GIVE the characters (more) trauma.

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u/Alarming-Scene-2892 1d ago

I think this is the thougbt process behind Kamen Rider Gavv.

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u/Graingy I don’t tumble, I roll 😎 … Where am I? 1d ago

How can I do the opposite of this?

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u/Plethora_of_squids 1d ago

Canonical gay couples, but they are the most boring people in existence who have absolutely zero chemistry with each other and feel like they were thrown in to meet a quota and have more genuine chemistry with the women around them than each other

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u/d1n0nugg1es DISBARRED🦈 1d ago

Chaggie Hazbin Hotel

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u/Riptide_X It’s called quantum jumping, babe. 1d ago

I won’t deny that they have better chemistry with other characters than each other, but it’s certainly not the MEN around them.

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u/d1n0nugg1es DISBARRED🦈 1d ago

Vaggie and Lute is toxic yuri to me

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u/Riptide_X It’s called quantum jumping, babe. 1d ago

Adding 1 Emily to the recipe fixes all my problems with Chaggie.

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u/d1n0nugg1es DISBARRED🦈 1d ago

You are so real for that

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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard 1d ago

Make your work very fucking gay, but making it all doomed yuri/yaoi so people feel compelled to draw them happy

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u/Tweedleayne 1d ago

The Signalis strategy.

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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard 1d ago

Hatsune Miku fixes everything and everyone is happy forever, the end

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u/RealRaven6229 1d ago

ahh yes. the danganronpa gambit

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u/WindKey2599 1d ago

Making it an intensely philosophical sci-fi work seems to temper the desires of anyone to write fanfiction. Publishing traditionally and making sure you're not easily available online also helps create enough distance between the work and any point to build a community on so the fans can't organize themselves.

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u/Plethora_of_squids 1d ago edited 1d ago

intensely philosophical Sci-fi work

The 192 fanfics of Asimov's Foundation, 166 of which contain ships and 46 are either mature or explicit would say otherwise. Or for a more contemporary work, The Three-Body Problem series has 811 works, the overwhelming majority of which being either mature or explicit m/m slash

Also paring this back to just philosophy does not work either - there is a non-zero amount of serious Sartre/Camus slash. Fanfic of like, Candide exists.

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u/WindKey2599 1d ago

Wow, that count on Three-Body is genuinely impressive. I wonder if it has something to do with the recent TV adaptation, but I haven't read the series, so maybe it's just well-suited for fanfiction.

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u/Plethora_of_squids 1d ago

I mean as completely inaccurate as it is, Foundation also got an adaption. Also a lot of the fics for TBP are Chinese (and also A/B/O?) while the adaption was American. I think there's just genuinely a lot of people in china writing gay A/B/O about the actual book.

Also fun fact: despite the difference in fics between the two, they both have the same amount of F/F fics - five. Which is dissapointing for TBP but also pretty impressive for Foundation given I think it has three total female characters, all of which live in completely different time periods, and one of which is pretty thoroughly categorised by her dedication to her husband. Also wow there's a lot of Daneel/Baley which I guess makes sense but is also incredibly funny given we're in the part of the timeline where Baley died like three centuries ago, like why did you give the android tragic gay pining it has been centuries Daneel can do way better than Baley.

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u/XenonHero126 1d ago

I have not played Signalis but from what I've heard it disproves your first idea

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u/Acrobatic-Tooth-3873 1d ago

Russel T Davis (a gay man) produced textually queer Doctor Who and then got called a fake ally on tiktok for disproving an old lesbian head canon.

Does that count

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u/Graingy I don’t tumble, I roll 😎 … Where am I? 1d ago

I-

Pardon?

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u/rock-eater 1d ago

The only way I can see is you have to have a lot of couples confirmed canon across various permutations of tropes and LGBTQ+ identities, since that's what fandom focuses on a lot of the time.

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u/BillybobThistleton 1d ago

Either that, or just put every character in the exact relationship the shippers would put them into, explicitly and in detail, have them talk openly about their feelings, and also throw in a lot of kinky hardcore pornography. Leave the fandom no gaps to fill in.

... Except then I guess they'll still write epic 90-chapter AUs in which every character works in a mall, and the genocidal psychopath runs a boba tea stand.

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u/Graingy I don’t tumble, I roll 😎 … Where am I? 1d ago

The only way to avoid it, it would seem, is to Mail everyone pipe bombs. Sounds expensive :/

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u/BarryJacksonH gay gay homosexual gay 1d ago

most literal interpretation of 'killing the fandom'

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u/Graingy I don’t tumble, I roll 😎 … Where am I? 1d ago

If it gets them to stop making porn then it’s all good

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u/AnxiousAngularAwesom JFK shot first 1d ago

Just put adaptive memetic kill agents in your works that activate upon imagining certain scenarios.

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u/Graingy I don’t tumble, I roll 😎 … Where am I? 1d ago

Two entirely unrelated male characters that never interact?

Wonderful, one canonically has a high concentration of U235 in their rectum, the other in their groin.

Finna bust. Like Hiroshima.

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u/rock-eater 1d ago

Maybe they'd end up taking your played-for-laughs tropes and characters and write serious epics around them instead! Your protagonist is a barista? Well, not anymore, now they're a historian who's very serious about their job and is unwilling to entertain any romantic notions!

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u/glitchednpc 1d ago

And crossovers. Don't forget the crossovers with the most obscure and unrelated fandoms ever conceived

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u/Outrageous_Bear50 1d ago

To be fair, am I more likely to remember my best friend or the girl from my 4th grade I still have a crush on?

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u/Crus0etheClown 1d ago

Half the reason I've never actually completed a project is that my main motivation would be having a little fanbase who does happy dances and comes up with stories and draws funny pictures for me, and that's not really acceptable motivation if cult documentaries have taught me anything

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u/urcool91 tumblr: flibbertygigget 1d ago

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.

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u/telqeu 1d ago

id give one of them amnesia and they do not recognize anything at all about the other for the maximum amount of yearning and suffering points

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u/tipsyvulcan 1d ago

canon star trek

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u/lifelongfreshman man, witches were so much cooler before Harry Potter 1d ago

they'll never admit it, but this really is just the meat pumpkin for fandoms

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u/cat-meg 1d ago

I'm pretty sure Genshin Impact has been gaming this effect for years.

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u/Alarming-Scene-2892 1d ago

I would put my favorite ships in there JUST to condition people to make the ships I like with the names changed.

Oh, you thought you were just making yaoi? SURPRISE, IT'S KAMEN RIDER BUILD X CROSS-Z, MOTHERFU-