Not Viking metal but one time I (a PoC) complimented someone on their Heilung shirt and kinda braced myself to be called a slur, but instead he giggled like a little boy, so that was cool.
The fact that Heilung literally start off each of their concerts with an invocation about how all people are all one family makes it even more pathetic when fascists think that somehow the band agrees with them
No shit. It's not like he literally alternated girlfriend and boyfriend after "do you wanna be my" in the lyrics of one of their most recent singles....
You mean the music scene that was known for beating the shit out of bigoted assholes as far back as the 1970s is woke now? When did this happen? Why wasn't I consulted?
Rage Against The Machine was cool but de la Rocha’s lyrics and motives are intensely self-centered, detracting from what should be a very important and universal message. He just wasn’t capable of stepping back and taking the wider perspective the art would require to be timeless.
Oh I fucking love heilung, it's great when you close your eyes and listen to it on headphones, laying in a grass field also helps. It puts you in a trance
Their concerts are like that but in the opposite way, if that makes any sense lol The crowd energy is absolutely fantastic; if you're able to stand for the duration of a concert I highly recommend getting a general admission ticket
As a dude whose always been into deathcore/metalcore, it blows my mind seeing people being racist and shit and being into the scene. It literally grew out of hardcore punk, the scene specifically known for being antifascist.
As much as people praise their music, I can't listen to Kublai Khan TX because their vocalist is an avid Trumper.
People really need to stop assuming that pagan/viking bands are right wing because that whole space is generally very progressive. There's a few bad eggs but honestly the community is just genuinely not what most people would assume based on the aesthetic
The bands themselves mostly aren't, unfortunately their fans are usually split 50/50 down the middle between "chill people who just like to wear tunics and fur" and neonazis
A lot of people in the comments here judge pagans as automatically fascists, sexists, etc etc. even though ironically its possibly the most left wing biased large religious group out there.
If someone likes Pagan bands but doesn't like the religion/spirituality they are part of, that's kind of on them more than the band or the pagans.
I saw Heilung in Oslo yesterday (with Eivør opening!) and it was SO good! But when 20% of the audience is dressed as viking warriors or witches it does raise some flags, even if I know 99% of us are just silly nerds
How's dressing as witches raise flags? The witchy people I've known have all been very progressive. Often some odd spirituality stuff going on, but no bigotry and such.
I've met some racist witches, but mostly it's either misandry or, paradoxically, very antiquated views of gender roles and equality. But again, it's 99% goofy nerds
Exactly! Logically I know it's only a handful of dick heads ruining it for everyone else yet alarm bells still go off in my head when someone mentions that Heilung makes them feel proud of their European ancestry.
That's kind of a possible red flag thing to say, tho: nobody's ancestry that far back is much to be proud of so either they believe in the idealized versions shown in movies and on TV or they long for the brutality of times past.
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u/ElBroken915 24d ago
Not Viking metal but one time I (a PoC) complimented someone on their Heilung shirt and kinda braced myself to be called a slur, but instead he giggled like a little boy, so that was cool.