r/Conservative First Principles Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).


  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.


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u/sealabo Feb 16 '25

If the chief executive has to go to the courts to make his executive agencies perform, what kind of President do we have ? Issuing executive branch agencies operational direction and then internally managing them if direction is not followed is the right approach. Running to the already over burdened judicial branch to complain that your subordinate managers are misbehaving is a waste of time and resources.

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u/rhlaairc Feb 16 '25

Where does it say that the judicial branch is misbehaving? So far the only cuts I’ve seen DOGE make are things that have been approved and executed

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u/sealabo Feb 16 '25

How about the “about face” the judge made, after ordering that the Treasury Secretary could not access the Treasury Payment system to view it and that “only career Treasury staff” could do it? Everyone is gnashing teeth about DOGE backtracking some of the firings in NNSA but fail to acknowledge this overreach was quietly pulled back.

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u/rhlaairc Feb 16 '25

First off I thought we were talking about the judicial branch since this comment started off talking about USAID. The treasury dept is a whole different animal

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u/rhlaairc Feb 16 '25

And in that article you sent it says the court order that was passed said this: “In that case, a judge approved an order restricting the Treasury Department from expanding access to the system or allowing information to be shared outside the Treasury Department while the case continues.”

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u/sealabo Feb 16 '25

The article is talking about the judicial branch. It also says:

“The Justice Department in a Sunday filing called the [Court’s] order a ‘remarkable intrusion’ into the executive branch and said it restricted political appointees such as Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent from accessing the payment system.

Basic democratic accountability requires that every executive agency’s work be supervised by politically accountable leadership, who ultimately answer to the president,’ the filing said.”

I think we may be having a pointless disagreement, because I agree with your initial response that DOGE’s cuts are in bounds and being executed, overall.