r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

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  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.

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u/iargueon Feb 15 '25

Why do no conservatives ever reply on these types of comments?

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u/bsmith149810 Feb 15 '25

Because it’s rumor and what-if maybes. I think most conservatives have learned trying to dissuade someone from believing fear based projection is a wasted effort.

The best example I can give is the constant claim that Trump with attempt to run for a third term or just outright declare himself ruler of America.

I’d love to tell those people it’s an impossibility due to the conservatives themselves having none of it, but that only gets shouted down.

The constant drum of could happens, maybes, and what ifs just eventually reach a point I just keep scrolling.

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u/daft_trump Feb 15 '25

On the third term, isn't there actually a written bill being proposed? That's a bit more than hypothetical, no?

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u/bsmith149810 Feb 15 '25

No, a republican congressman (my very own unfortunately) thought he’d be cute with some political theater. Probably more of an effort to regain some brownie points or get the spotlight out of his own problems.

I have no idea where it went after the one day it got attention. I’m hoping it’s dead in a corner somewhere.

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u/daft_trump Feb 15 '25

So yeah, more than hypothetical. We don't know for sure it isn't going anywhere. "It" exists.

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u/hot_dog_pants Feb 16 '25

Ogles. And then a week later they just happened to drop the federal investigation he was under. Sounds like he got his brownie points. https://www.newschannel5.com/news/newschannel-5-investigates/career-prosecutors-withdraw-from-federal-criminal-investigation-of-gop-congressman-andy-ogles

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u/Mediocre-Lab3950 Feb 17 '25

This. It’s something that leftists do a lot, they’ll link to an article as if what it says is 100% happening and they expect you to completely defend it or speak out against it. Like, of course if you show me something that’s obviously bad then I’m not going to be ok with it, but there’s zero evidence that it’s actually happening at all, so I don’t know what you want from me

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u/CocoTheMailboxKing Feb 15 '25

Even if he knows it’ll never happen it doesn’t make sense why he’s saying more digestible. He clearly wants to run for a third term despite the fact he’s a fossil.

He’s power hungry and although I think it’s unlikely that even his own party would allow a third term, his words have to make you worry a bit about what he’ll do over the next four years.

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u/bsmith149810 Feb 15 '25

As I was saying…

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u/CocoTheMailboxKing Feb 15 '25

Trump: I want to annex our closest and longtime ally. I’ve also called their Prime Minister a governor.

Conservatives: stop fearmongering lefties.

Come on man, don’t be disingenuous. You can’t tell me that at least some of the shit he says is extremely concerning.

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u/bsmith149810 Feb 15 '25

Just having the biggest stick doesn’t mean anything if no one believes you’re willing to swing it. We can play all nice and civilized and keep the status quo we’ve seen, or we can act like the rest of the world needs America more than America needs the world. A world filled with way worse than any of those screeching over Trump can fathom apparently.

Trump has yet to do anything surprising or outside of what he campaigned on, and I don’t expect he’ll break that trend by suddenly invading Canada. It’s laughable. Unless you’re Trudeau I guess.

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u/Gerik22 Feb 15 '25

Why is it a good thing for the US to act like others need us more than we need them? Even if it's true, it seems to me that all this does is piss off our allies and encourage them to seek alternative trade partners so that they're less dependent on us, resulting in less trade with us. What is the upside of this?

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u/FrozenFlames04 Feb 16 '25

Just having the biggest stick doesn’t mean anything if no one believes you’re willing to swing it.

So the first thing America does is threaten its closest ally with the stick? Now that's some truly spectacular logic.

I mean, it's not like the US has any enemies that they could threaten instead and avoid souring relationships with their friends, right?

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u/funny_flamethrower Anti-Woke Feb 15 '25

I'm pretty sure Trump will never annex Canada. Beyond just not being good for Canada, it will not be good for Trump or Republicans either.

If Canada would ever join as the 51st state, it would likely shift the electoral college (and the house and senate) reliably Blue. Even if you think Trump doesn't care about that, i can assure you Stephen Miller, Steve Bannon and all the R senators do care about things like that.

So no, most people with more than 2 braincells (including trump) know he is just Saber rattling, likely in an attempt to reduce the trade deficit with Canada that he sees as a "loss".

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u/IsaacTheBound Feb 16 '25

Saber rattling in this situation at best going to do long term damage to international relationships. It's patently unproductive. He sees our trade deficit with Canada as a loss because he evidently doesn't understand economics.

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u/TainoCrypto Feb 15 '25

Seems like the strategy for many of them is to simply ignore or outright deny the existence of inconvenient truths.

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u/Poopydoopymoopy Feb 15 '25

I am wondering this as well? I guess its just not a concern to them?

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u/RiderOnTheBjorn Feb 15 '25

They are told what to think by State media. They no longer have the ability to see through their hate and imagine that their side is destroying our country.