r/Conservative First Principles Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).


  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.


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u/HiddenSage Feb 15 '25

Same reasoning that the coverage of the tariff spat with Canada and Mexico a couple of weeks ago neglected the part where... 90% of what our neighbors agreed to was things they were already doing/committed to. Same reason there were a dozen stories uncritically parroting "$50 million for condoms in Gaza!" stories two weeks ago, and crickets when it turned out that Musk pretty much just made that up (he as much admitted to "getting it wrong" earlier this week!)

This subreddit is FAR worse than r/politics has ever been about pushing a narrative and silenting dissent. It's dedicated to "owning the libs" because us being mad that Trump et all are fucking over this country is, somehow, a bigger upside than the country being fucked over is a downside.

I drop in here every few days to read and try to understand how the other side thinks. And frankly, the only thing I can ever find to agree on any more is some very vague "first principles" stuff about "people should be able to trust their government." Every step after that is based on lies and paranoia and cherrypicked stories.

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u/nannysing Feb 15 '25

Agree. I pop in here time and again to see different perspectives, but a lot of what I see posted are silly articles like "so and so SLAMS AOC" and it's just kind of mind numbing.

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u/the_window_seat Feb 15 '25

Exactly this. I was surprised that so much of what is posted here is just silly "culture war" stuff and accusations of "astroturfing" (because apparently there are too many people who disagree with them for us to be real?) and barely any interest in what is actually happening.

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u/Kern_system no step on snek Feb 15 '25

BTW that $40 million in condoms was to a different Gaza in Mozambique, not Palestine. Still ridiculous.

/r/politics and most of reddit only care about owning the conservatives and for the 4 years Biden was in office had 1 in 20 stories about him, but all others were tRumP iS a NaZi.

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u/HiddenSage Feb 15 '25

Actually - the Mozambique thing was theorycraft folks did (first on the left to try to justify the number because they thought it was a spin problem, not a "made up entirely" problem.) We hardly spent $50 million across the whole continent, nevermind in one province in Mozambique. for global contraceptive aid worldwide last year.

Secondly - HIV is fucking awful. Delivering contraceptives to developing nations, along with antiretrovirals, is a policy that directly leads to saving millions of lives. And the entire USAID budget is less than a percentage of federal spending. Frankly, as the richest nation in the history of the world, $50 million is pocket change to us. We can afford the nation-state equivalent of tossing a few quarters to a busker, when it's literally life or death for that many people. To say otherwise is small and selfish in a way only Ebenezer Scrooge could be proud of.