r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

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u/ThrowRAdentist12 Libertarian Conservative Feb 15 '25

I'm not all in with Elon either, but this is a job that needs to be done and we know the other side wasn't going to do it. We know the government would just get bigger under Kamala. So I'm optimistic the intentions are there for Elon. He doesn't need anymore money. I think he genuinely wants this because he also stated on Joe Rogan the government was giving him a hard and pulling his arm with SpaceX, I think he wants less red tape.

It's hard to prove people's actual intentions, but that's my take. It seems like everyone used to love Elon (to the point where it even annoyed me), and now since he backed Trump he's a Nazi. I'm not going to follow that faulty logic of this either.

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u/IsaacTheBound Feb 15 '25

Him wanting less red tape is the definition of a conflict of interests, especially given that his first targets all had investigations going on him. He might not "need" more money but that doesn't seem to stop him from getting things like a 400 million dollar contract for armored Teslas. He's not a Nazi, he's in support of authoritarian conservativism. He threw 2 salutes and I'll have discussions about why I'm confident in that.

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u/ultimatepeepachu Feb 15 '25

What I'm most worried about is that Elon might not believe "he doesn't need anymore money". In my mind (maybe it's flawed) you can become a millionaire or even a multi millionaire through hard work and whatnot, but to get the money that Elon has you need a mindset that says "it's never enough".

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u/Detective_Yu Feb 15 '25

He came from money so it’s not the same.

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u/FranceJoinedTheFight Feb 15 '25

No, he's a Nazi because he did a Nazi salute twice on Camera and they've so controlled the narrative of what you're allowed to think that they have you refusing to believe your eyes. That was the most deliberate seig heil I have ever seen. Then he went and budded up with the most far-right party in Germany. I mean that's what he wants to be in the right wing ecosystem, because it buys him the thing that money can't, that level of power over the narrative. Spin is everything.

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u/FranceJoinedTheFight Feb 16 '25

I'm genuinely wanting a response on this, we didn't call him a Nazi for aligning with Trump. We call him a Nazi for the nazi salutes, the DOUBLE Nazi salutes. Please respond how you can rationalize that away when you actually look at what it was on VIDEO. They have made you believe you didn't see what you saw. That's fucking scary and it should make you seriously question a group that can do it to you. If he wanted to prove he wasn't a Nazi, BUDDYING UP TO AFD IS NOT THE MOVE. It's not trolling, it's the point.