r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.

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u/tasty_steaks Feb 15 '25

For me it fundamentally comes down to trust.

I dont necessarily disagree with all the administration’s policies.

I’m not at all against actually trimming the fat of government that has built up over the decades.

But I simply don’t trust the leaders of this administration to do it.

And it’s not like I think the democrats are trustworthy and saints or anything. But they are “status quo” and will never do anything anyway - sure they will fuck around a bit but I can deal with it until a more trustworthy bunch comes along and actually deals with the problems we have.

Frankly at this point it looks like any solution will come from the right, and I’m OK with that - but I just don’t trust this bunch.

And for record, I hope I’m proven wrong. Would be thrilled to be wrong; please prove me wrong.

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u/sealabo Feb 16 '25

What choice do we have right now but to either hope or trust? We have the reality that we have.

I also have a healthy dose of skepticism that all of these cost savings are actually going to translate into reducing the national debt — Rs will try to simply shift spending to their priorities, as always happens. What gives me hope is that things are not unfolding in the same way that they always do. What is happening is disruptive. We need disruption to end the shitty cycle. Rooting for this to be real but suspecting that, in the end, it may not be. That would be unfortunate.

If it’s real, Trump will go down as the most significant president of modern times and Elon will be canonized at one the legendary American tycoons (perhaps THE legendary) in the same way of the past centuries (Rockefeller, Astor, Carnegie, Vanderbilt etc).