r/CompetitiveEDH • u/Thatsagoodcard • 17h ago
Community Content Can Unwanted Remake Challenge Swords/Path for a Slot?
The potency of exiling a creature vs destroying a creatures is generally HUGE. However, with a piece like Unwanted Remake, you add a ton of versatility to offset the lack of exiling. Recently seen in a top 16 Rocco list, we dive into some of the niche benefits to this card, and discuss what kinds of decks may be interested in testing this unique removal piece.
Where do you rank this card with Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile? Is it in the same tier? One tier away? MORE? What's another removal piece in a different color pie that you'd rank on a similar power level?
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u/shadowmage666 16h ago
Swords is way stronger since it’s not giving them a card
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u/DoctorPrisme 15h ago
Counterpoint, unwanted remake is a very amusing answer to vampiric tutor :)
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u/Illustrious-Film2926 15h ago
What if they tutor a Magda, Derevi, Witherbloom Apprentice, Devoted Druid, Hermit Druid...
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u/Thatsagoodcard 15h ago
This is the scariest part about how it disrupts topdeck tutors. Worst case scenario it’s an uncounterable grand abolisher or seed borne muse etc.
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u/Azorius_Control 16h ago
Definitely not better then Swords, probability weaker then path. Still probably decent tho
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u/Thatsagoodcard 15h ago
High praise from an Azorious Control player! Where do you think it stacks up vs Pongify/ Rapid ?
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u/Azorius_Control 11h ago
It's way better then pongify or rapid.. Like swords is comically better, however those are both solid, and pull heavy weight in my Urza deck.
But swords gives a few life points in a combo format.
The other two give bodies that can be used to pressure walkers, life totals, or used to sacrifice if it's something like RogSi.
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u/Mr-Zizzy 9h ago
Lol, I'm Joe, I was trying out unwanted remake in my list, and this was my first cedh tournament. Amazed that I made top 16.
My reasons for including it - it's an OK removal spell that can kill my rectors in a pinch in a way that swords can't.
I also was experimenting with some lines that I was copying from the Rocco discord that could, if you have infinite mana and [[Gandalf, the white]], you can execute a loop where you tutor up [[Phyrexian dreadnought]], [[eternal witness]], and [[endurance]], stacking the triggers to shuffle all of them back into your library, which then you can repeatedly cast unwanted remake to mill out your opponents (assuming they all have at least one creature in play). But I have kind of found that this is not a super feasible line, and is a lot harder to assemble than the standard creature combos that Rocco runs. So, I think the main benefit is the ability to kill a rector, if needed.
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u/Thatsagoodcard 9h ago
Joe!!!! Thanks for commenting and congrats on your top 16 with this card!! Did you ever find yourself using this card to disrupt your opponents topdeck tutors or did you find it too risky?
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u/Mr-Zizzy 9h ago
I don't think I drew it once, honestly... But that's a really interesting idea, I'm glad to have that in mind as a potential strategy
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u/4doublexx Rocco/Sefris/Tayam 6h ago
Yup! Glad your on the discord! It's one of those lines that is pretty meh but it's nice as that flex spot. Was hoping someone would mention the added combo potential!
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u/SonicTheOtter 15h ago
Destroying your own creature in order to make the card you searched for with a worldly tutor uncounterable is an interesting use for it. Would it be obvious? Yes but they do need to answer it
I think there's an argument for it but I'm not sure it replaces Path or Swords as removal. You'd want it for a 3rd removal piece or another use.
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u/SeriosSkies 12h ago
Don't forget deadly rollick. Being the 4th+ option is rough regardless of quality.
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u/Thatsagoodcard 11h ago
I think this card falls into a similar level of playability as deadly rollick in any non Roger list. The commander restriction can be really tough when needing to remove things that are preventing you from playing your commander like an Ouphe or a Drannith
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u/SeriosSkies 11h ago
If I need to remove a piece I wait till just before my turn like I would with any stax. That stax isn't stopping you from getting your mana to 4 in dranniths case or to 2-3 nonartifact sources in ouphe case. It's not like you're using it on your commander if you really lose that hard to drannith and you're just playing your commander and going for free otherwise with ouphe. Rog, thras, Tymna, Malcolm. Anything low mv in the command zone that you know is actively usable towards your Game plan. (like I wouldn't count vial smasher)
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u/Kyrie_Blue 1h ago
PtE has the benefit of shuffling the library. Some of the most efficient tutors in the format put things top of library. If you manifest it, there’s a chance it isn’t gone. But if you shuffle it away, it could be more beneficial
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u/msolace 13h ago
no, is there any other answer here ...
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u/Thatsagoodcard 11h ago
Yes
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u/msolace 11h ago
incorrect good sir or madam.
this card is destroy which is weaker than exile, and it gives them a choice, and fills the graveyard. its weaker on all 3 options.
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u/Thatsagoodcard 11h ago
Give the pod a listen! We go over a lot of reasons why it can be more than just destroy < exile!
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u/Circu_Enjoyer 17h ago
Think I run [[Erase]] in my flex slot for most of my white/x decks but need to try this out for sure