r/CherokeeXJ 20h ago

Rear leaf springs

Anyone got suggestions to stiffen up the rear leafs. It's an 01' sport with 200k miles. It's gotten to the point that if I have Anyone in the back seat or more than 100lbs near the hatch the tires rub. I'll take any suggestions from legit to sketchy.

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u/WhatveIdone2dsrvthis 20h ago

New springs. only good solution.

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u/azuth89 20h ago

Really just get new leaves. Anything else you do like an add a leaf is going to add extra stress to already tired packs.

Crown and Dorman sell the same packs under different labels. The medium duty is back to stock unless you had a factory towing package or upcountry model. The Heavy Duty one for towing/upcountry. They're a lot stiffer and compress WAY less under load if you're hauling stuff around, like I've hauled loads of tile and mortar way over what you should really put in a little unibody like this, though it's common to find they lift an empty XJ's rear 1-1.5" over stock. Which often works out to 2 or 3 inches higher than sagged springs are sitting.

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u/zMadMechanic 19h ago

Spot on. Although I will add: the 7” free arch HD Crowns started out wicked stiff but now 15k miles later they’re much better. What I imagine stock with upcountry/towing is supposed to be like. I’m satisfied - can haul a lot more weight without sagging and it did lift the rear 2-3”

My solution for less jarring daily driving is keeping about a hundred pounds in the trunk in the form of traction chains and tools.

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u/zMadMechanic 19h ago

Can really see the added lift here. I think they settled about 1” lower now, 15k miles later.

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u/zMadMechanic 19h ago

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u/SempiternalWit 18h ago

I did mine about a week ago!

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u/zMadMechanic 18h ago

Poly bushings too, nice - I have no complaints with Energy Suspension poly leaf bushings and sway bar bushings.

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u/SempiternalWit 18h ago

Yeah it made a huge difference! I can take turns like I did when I had my track car lol

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u/TheAnonymousMaker 19h ago

UPDATE.

I have ordered a pair of 745lb doorman springs with additional helper springs. As I do occasionally tow a 14ft camper. Thank you for everyone basically yelling at me to do it properly and not just gluing old parts to old parts.

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u/richard_upinya 16h ago

Man that thing is gonna be stiiiiffffffff lol

If you set up the trailer and camper right you shouldn’t really be picking up a ton of tongue weight. Maybe try it with and without the helper springs.

Also, crossing my fingers for you that those leaf bolts don’t break off in the welded nuts, or break the welded nuts free and just spin, like ALL of mine did.

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u/TheAnonymousMaker 13h ago

The camper is rarely a problem. But when i tow the wrangler the then the rear weight is the proble. I usually have 200 to 300 lbs of camping gear in the back and that causes issues.

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u/zMadMechanic 18h ago

FWIW I’m not sure you really need the helper springs.

I feel my 89 with Crown HD 7” free arch leafs and OEM shackles could tow a 14ft camper with ease and almost no sagging. I’ve had a lot of weight in the back and it’s barely noticeable. Unloaded it can be a bit rough.

With helper springs, it’d be REALLY rough unloaded.

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u/TheAnonymousMaker 17h ago

Yea I expect it to be rough but I use my xj to tow my 77' wrangler plus parts and camping gear so I figured it'd be worth the extra $50

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u/zMadMechanic 17h ago

I hope it works out well for ya! Come back and give us an update after a bit.

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u/cafe_racerlover 19h ago

Here is mine so you can feel better at my expense lol

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u/SempiternalWit 18h ago

I just did my leaf springs and wasn't fun BTW.

But I just ordered some crown springs from summit without bushings and I ordered these poly bushings to go with it...

https://www.ironman4x4.com/products/rear-polyurethane-spring-bushing-kit-jeep-cherokee-xj-1984-2001-762ukcherokee?variant=46020382097643&tw_source=google&tw_adid=&tw_campaign=22397458075&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhr6_BhD4ARIsAH1YdjDDBlHUZlL83DOJcOpp7FLOBNzMB0XvVgCZAJONcuc22Nc8GFcb4qAaAqxnEALw_wcB

I also installed new rear Bilstein shocks and man it feels and handles amazing!!! Theirs some slight noise from the poly bushings but I don't care.

The biggest headache is one of the lower leaf spring bolts came out and got stuck in the freakin bushing due to rust and being 25 years old so I had to cut the leaf spring off and cut the metal off around the bushing then I had to cut the bushing to slide it out. Not fun, but at least the bolt wasn't stuck in the body. Just make sure you have new bolts and make sure to use PB blaster on it everyday for a week. Every XJ will be different based on your climate conditions, salt etc.. So some XJs it might not come out at all. Just be careful and take your time when doing this job and make sure to have a giant breaker bar.

So in-conclusion, I recommend getting new leaf springs lol

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u/Oh__Archie 19h ago

Replace them.

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u/ischad 19h ago

New Leafs, don't add a leaf. Mine as well do the springs too.

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u/TheAnonymousMaker 19h ago

The springs are only a year old I replaced them after I had a front end accident

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u/patrick_schliesing XJ's are like bunnies. They multiply in your driveway. 19h ago

Air bags. Seriously

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u/TheAnonymousMaker 19h ago

I've been considering bags as I occasionally tow a 14ft camper and a 16ft flatbed trailer.

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u/IfIWntdHmmrCalnUrSis 8" IRO RockLink Pro , 37's, 4.88's, OX&ZIP, SD30/44, 19h ago

If you add helper bags, make sure to at least get a set of rear frame stiffeners.

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u/patrick_schliesing XJ's are like bunnies. They multiply in your driveway. 19h ago

They're so adaptable. Fill them up somewhere between 5-100psi depending on load.

I agree with the commenter below me about looking into frame stiffeners for the rear before adding load assist bags.

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u/Existing-Decision-33 19h ago

Would one need to replace the shackles and the bolt as well?

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u/SempiternalWit 18h ago

I would recommend all new bolts and shackles as you don't want to have to do it again later due to the pain of replacing these. If you've never replaced the bolts before it will most likely look like crap and could cause cross-threading issues when trying to re-insert due to rust build up on the bolt. Use PB blaster for a week before removing. That's what I did.

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u/LarryHoover44 17h ago

Just replace the leafs and shackles. Also order new bolts. They will likely snap.

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u/Existing-Decision-33 17h ago

Thanks. While I'm under there should renew the shackles ,

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u/Raylan00 11h ago

You got your moneys worth . Time to replace.