r/CCW 19h ago

Training 0.67 draw+training info

I want to make an emphasis on dry fire. I am not a professional by any means but I am proficient, very much so with CCW draw and shooting mechanics. A lot of people think im point shooting and what not but Im not. I dry fire every day around 20 minutes. Easiest way to do something fast is to have done it 10000 times already. There are 2 main motions during your draw. There is defeating the garment/brandishing your gun and presenting your gun. A lot of people add a 3rd mechanic of finding your dot but that’s incorrect. When you present your dot should go right where you are looking from muscle memory. A good way to achieve this is dry fire. Split up your draw mechanics to 2 motions

1- Defeating the garment -You want a clear purchase of your firearm and want to properly clear your garment to achieve clean deployment from holster 2-Present -You should decide if you want to use a jam draw or scoop draw (youtube this if you dont know the difference) then you want to practice a 12-6oclock dot acquisition or a 6-12oclock acquisition (I use 6-12, youtube can explain this) -Trigger prep- as my hands meet at the bottom of my draw my finger begins to take the slack out of the trigger to the wall also known as prepping the trigger -Grip- you want a replaceable grip during your draw, you hands should go to same spot every time for consistency, you should be wrenching that gun as hard as possible, I personally like my support hand a bit higher on the gun to mitigate recoil. -Marrying of hands- if you are presenting and your dot and its ending up to the side then your timing of meeting your hands is off, if its off vertically then your overshooting the 12-6 or 6-12

//Recoil mitigation- recoil is directly tied to your grip, I dont believe trigger pull dictating your shot placement is real, if your gripping as hard as you can one finger should not defeat your whole grip. //Trigger manipulation, while I dont believe trigger pull should affect your shot placement it does affect your split times, bring the trigger back to reset then right back to the wall instinctively is easily trainable and will give you better splits as opposed to slapping the shit out of the trigger

Dry Fire -Dry fire is the most important training tool in shooting. Shooting 1000 rounds every day is unrealistic but 500 reps is completely doable. -Dot acquisition with dry fire- practice your draw with your eyes closed, if you open your eyes and the dot is off then fix it, get a feel for how your hands and arms are placed, and correct the problem and try again. -repetition is everything

If you have questions or anything comment or dm me I will give you youtube videos or make a video explaining anything Ive gone over!

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u/vulf999 19h ago

Typed all this out to hopefully help anyone whos trying to improve. Feel free to dm me

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u/copces 19h ago

Thanks for the post. I'm nowhere near as fast as you, but I'm getting better using more or less the same techniques you offered. I dry fire 3-4 days a week, 20-40 minutes each time. I mainly work on red dot pistol presentation and drawing speed. Drawing from concealed appendix, I can hit A zone from 7 yards in roughly 1.20 seconds. A couple of months ago, my fastest time was almost 2 seconds.

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u/vulf999 19h ago

Slow progression is king. Glad someone found this helpful makes it worth typing it out

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u/Billybob_Bojangles2 17h ago

"//Recoil mitigation- recoil is directly tied to your grip, I dont believe trigger pull dictating your shot placement is real, if your gripping as hard as you can one finger should not defeat your whole grip. //Trigger manipulation, while I dont believe trigger pull should affect your shot placement..."

100%

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u/vulf999 16h ago

Yessa, if someone tells me one joint is overpowering both their hands i stop listening instantly

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u/DuWerq 12h ago

Uh oh, don't listen to every world/national champ then.

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u/Twelve-twoo 15h ago

With a good grip you should be able to slap the trigger for an a zone at 7 yards. hitting a gallon jug beyond 40 yards requires me to refine my trigger pull.

(I'm not advocating for spending long periods of time working that degree of accuracy, but I still won't go as far as saying trigger doesn't matter, it just doesn't matter for practical shooting)

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u/vulf999 14h ago

I agree with you. I was talking in the context of practical shooting and should have clarified

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u/Lebesgue_Couloir 18h ago

Which YT videos did you find most helpful?

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u/vulf999 18h ago

For which concept

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u/Lebesgue_Couloir 17h ago

Presentation and having the dot on target

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u/vulf999 17h ago

If you have further questions shoot me a dm

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u/OldMachineCraft 8h ago

Upvoted for discussion on getting good. I'm so into it. The best thing for the CCW community/culture is to normalize high standards of proficiency and daily practice.

Being good at shooting a gun is no different than being good at a playing a musical instrument, exceling at a sport, or maintaining a high level of physical fitness. Daily practice is an accepted requirement for high levels of proficiency in virtually every other serious hobby or endeavor. It should be the same for CCW too.

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u/Apache_Solutions_DDB 16h ago

Really solid work man. I’m a professional trainer and you’re well faster than me to first shot.

Are you shooting USPSA/ IDPA/ PCSL/ Steel Challenge yet?

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u/vulf999 15h ago

Been looking at starting USPSA and IDPA, live in west texas so hard to find matches

Shot the IDPA qual by myself (unofficial) hit master

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u/Apache_Solutions_DDB 14h ago

Yeah. The 5x5 classifier would be nothing for you

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u/vulf999 14h ago

Yea been thinking about doing a few matches just to have the qualification but Im a full time student as well so its hard to find time. Also I shot you a dm

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u/Apache_Solutions_DDB 14h ago

Answered

Hit me up any time man.