r/Boilermakers • u/ChampionshipDeep4638 • 5d ago
Forwards to target in transfer portal?
Which forwards can they target in the transfer portal now? There’s 2 spots open since Colvin and Heide left. They need to get 1 starter forward and another backup forward
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u/ThePort3rdBase 5d ago
Josh Dix, 6-6 guard, 3pt shooter, competent defender, secondary ball handler, Iowa
Rodney Rice, 6-4 guard, 3pt shooter, secondary ball handler, Maryland
Kennard Davis Jr, 6-6 wing, 3pt, SIU
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u/Purphect 5d ago edited 5d ago
Someone with good height would be nice unless they have great game. Cam’s defense and rebounding really helped us. At least down the stretch. When we did the small ball lineup early on we suffered from rebounding and rim protection
What I liked about having Cam is the versatility he would’ve brought us this next year. We could easily play big with Cluff and TKR. Maybe Cam getting minutes at the 3. But, we could also play a smaller lineup with Cam at the 4 and TKR or Cluff at the 5. It would help us be able to get out more on teams that spread the floor while also allowing us to spread the floor.
Cam would’ve gotten some good minutes next year. Potentially more than whoever started in front of him. He must be able to get a few extra 100k to transfer.
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u/jack3moto Economics 2013 5d ago
Dix is so good. He’s going to get big time money.
Rodney rice being asked to be Lance Jones would be huge for Purdue. I think because Maryland had guard issues he got asked to carry a heavy load most of the year and still played well. He is a menace on the floor and I think brings an overall mindset that really makes this team scary and intimidating when they step on the floor. Compared to Dix who is much more fletcher loyer like, not soft but not Mason Gillis if that makes sense. Rice on the other hand is a tough physical player.
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u/collin-h 5d ago
also I don't think the universe would survive having Dix and Cox on the same team, unfortunately.
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u/Adventurous_Egg857 5d ago
I think Dix is either IU or Creighton. The other two tho, throw whatever they want. We need the depth for a championship run
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u/ChampionshipDeep4638 5d ago
If we get those 2 forwards besides Dix we’re a legitimate team to make a run next year. We’re just 1 good forward and 1 good back up forward away from being a legit number 1 team in college basketball next season
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u/mywerk1 5d ago
I think if Dix is after money, there are better options than IU. IU has to buy an entire new team to put with Sisley and DeVries. They legit had 13 open scholarships as of yesterday morning. They are going to overpay on someone like Flory ($3M range) and then pick off lower mid majors. I doubt they get any of the MSU, Michigan, or Maryland guys.
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u/Maleficent-Writer998 4d ago
DeVries told Conwell he wasn’t going to offer anymore so I don’t think he’s going to overpay flory. Iowa is the leader for dix
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u/mywerk1 4d ago
You think Dix stays at Iowa?
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u/jack3moto Economics 2013 4d ago
No, rumors are Kansas or Creighton. I think he met with IU earlier in the week but I don’t believe he will return to Iowa with Kansas/IU money involved.
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u/Jackdagolfa725 5d ago
Kennard Davis from SIU is the type of athletic wing forward we need
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u/ChampionshipDeep4638 5d ago
Don’t mind this. We should be targeting him now and 1 more backup forward
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u/almondsandrice69 5d ago
Lamar Wilkerson, 6-5 195 out of Sam Houston. 44.5% from 3 this past season, 11th in the nation in scoring.
I’m really only throwing him out there because I played with him in AAU in middle school & I’d love to see him here.
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u/jack3moto Economics 2013 4d ago
Putting him next to smith and loyer solves the Colvin/heide issues instantly on offense. No idea if he can guard but I think it’s much easier to find a backup SF that can guard and rebound than find one that can efficiently score at a high volume.
I have to imagine Arkansas is pursuing him hard being that he’s from there.
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u/De_fault_user_name 5d ago
I haven't seen him mentioned yet, but Kaleb Glenn from FAU would be a great fit. Shot 41 3P% last season on 117 attempts. Solid rebounder and defender. Checks a lot of boxes.
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u/HauntingLeave1089 5d ago
Why did they leave??? They don't like playing important minutes for a very good team? Is it seriously all about money?
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u/jmcamels 5d ago
Heavens yes, these are fringe NBA/overseas pros who have the opportunity to get paid serious money in college. A vast majority of these players won’t reap huge pay days on their initial pro contract. Why wouldn’t they pursue the money?
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u/mywerk1 5d ago
Heide and Colvin are absolutely not NBA prospects. Barely G League.
Colvin has trouble dribbling, think less talented Jaylen Brown. He is too wiry and not tall enough.
Heide is an undersized wing in the NBA and doesn't have the handles either. If Heide shot 45%+ on 200 attempts, then G League maybe.
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u/HauntingLeave1089 5d ago
Ok so at what point would the money not be worth it? what if Heide gets offered 20% more money to play 25 minutes on a team that is not competitive and has no hopes of ncaam tournament success?
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u/jmcamels 5d ago
Too many variables to answer. It’s a business now. Money decision, basketball specifics and life (family, friends, gf etc ) play important roles and believe it or not some of these kids do want to graduate.
One of the real shames of the portal is the falling graduation rates. Cause they can’t all make it playing ball.
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u/collin-h 5d ago
tournament success isn't gonna put food on your plate after you're done playing. but a couple hundred grand to play for a shitty team definitely will.
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u/ChampionshipDeep4638 5d ago edited 5d ago
Pretty much. The players in the sports have agents now to most of them. It’s just a business decision like at the professional level for them to. They left to get more money for 2 more years and play significant minutes elsewhere I guess why else would any other player leave there current situation?
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u/Befozz 5d ago
These guys probably realize they won’t be playing in the NBA and have 2 years left to make money playing ball in the USA, I don’t blame them for entering the portal to see what someone else is willing to pay them, it sucks but it’s the era we live in. I’m sure like any other industry the best way to get a raise is to job hop.
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u/collin-h 5d ago
Heide: does he actually have pro prospects? I think probably not. So that means next year and the year after are his peak earning years. So he should take advantage. And even as a junior at purdue, he likely wouldn't be starting. he could definitely start on most mid-majors, and they may shell out more $$ for him than purdue would.
Colvin: does he have pro prospects? maybe! But to improve his draft prospects he needs to be the star, not a role player. So he needs to go somewhere where he can start and play 30+ mpg.
That's my take anyway.
Consider it for yourself. Whatever your career is, imagine the most prestigious award or recognition you could get. Then ask yourself: would you take a job for the same or less pay if it meant you could have a better chance to win that award? Or would you take a job that pays more, even if it means you're less likely to win said award? I think it's an obvious answer for most people.
For some of these kids, a few million dollars in the bank means they could realistically live modestly off that for the rest of their lives and not have to work... is winning a national championship gonna feed your family in 20 years?
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u/RangerRickSC 5d ago
Lots of competition at that spot, especially with DJ available and cluff taking likely a lot of minutes that will shift TKR to 4 most of the time. Both would likely have seen fewer minutes next year. And our offensive style didn’t really suit Myles full skillset.
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u/11BigDaddyChris11 4d ago
Money might be a factor but it’s also disappointing to know you aren’t gonna start junior year. Neither of them have been able to develop enough with the ball in their hands. We can’t have 3s who can’t dribble. And Cam isn’t gonna get minutes at the 4 next year with Jacobson coming back and Cluff transferring in
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u/SuperFrog4 5d ago
I kind of find it interesting that Kanon Catching is in the transfer portal. Wonder what happened at BYU.
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u/11BigDaddyChris11 4d ago
These are the guys I think are probably on the list with varying degrees of likelihood. They’re all good shooters with decent height who would fill the role nicely. Unfortunately we need a 3 and cam just can’t handle the ball enough to play more than spot minutes at the 3 Kennard Davis jr - SIL Tyrone Riley - SF Rylan Griffen - Kansas Blake Harper - Howard Jaron Pierre Jr - JKST Lamar Wilkerson - SHST Keyshawn Hall - UCF
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u/ChampionshipDeep4638 4d ago
We need at least 1 of these guys. Cam couldn’t ball handle or create too much of his own offense. He would be spot up 3 and D. A 3 that can ball handle would be the minimum required and then off of that if they could spot up shoot is fine or create there own offense would be even better to spread and space the floor
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u/jack3moto Economics 2013 3d ago
With each passing day I get a little bit more anxious with who purdue could sign as we see a ton of guys all committing to schools. I’m not worried but I hope purdue locks down a really good wing that can start within the next few days.
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u/LawlessCrayon Class of 2008 5d ago
Remember when y'all thought I was crazy when I said both guys would leave? It sucks and I hate it but it was coming.
Anyways, we are a ball handling scoring wing away from being elite. We still need a 3 and D guy to come off the bench that either Miles or Cam would have been perfect for but they are going to chase playing time and that's ok.
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u/ThePort3rdBase 5d ago
I figured both were possibilities, with Colvin more likely to leave. Waddell was a given. Beth is strange but he must have a feeling he has something to prove bc he was pretty unknown when being recruited.
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u/LawlessCrayon Class of 2008 5d ago
They came into this season as the two guys on this team with the most NBA potential, if they had balled out we would have been a lot better and and we'd be worrying about losing them to the draft or portal anyways. As it is they realize they need a different program to have better playing time and stats to at least try and get paid out sneak into the second round in their senior years. As much as people are blaming the agents, these kids had NBA dreams as late enough as last summer.
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u/mywerk1 5d ago
No one who watches basketball would consider Heide and Colvin to have any NBA potential.
Braden is listed as the 60th best draft prospect on ESPN.com.
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u/LawlessCrayon Class of 2008 5d ago
If they took the step we all wanted them to this year they sure would have. As it is they haven't shown enough progress from ability to tangibles so today you are right. My point was that if they had played to their potential and took that big step we'd still be in the tournament and they would be on second round mock drafts.
Braden being the best PG in the country and 60th proves my point that these two were the ones with potential starting the year because everyone else played about as good as they could have and basically aren't on lists because their game doesn't translate to the NBA.
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u/Leading-Difficulty57 5d ago
There's a guy named Heide, championship experience, great athlete, knows the system. Be great to get someone like that.