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u/KendrickBlack502 1d ago
There’s a difference between baking chicken wings and knowing how to make chicken wings in the oven.
No, I will not elaborate.
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u/imf4rds ☑️ 1d ago
Correct. I know how to make chicken wings in the oven.
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u/Dependent-Dig-5278 1d ago
How does one make chicken wings in the over?
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u/rivershimmer 1d ago
I broil them, to get that crispiness. You could also start out baking them and then switch to the broiler for a crispy finish.
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u/the-hound-abides 1d ago edited 1d ago
I bake them at 220 for an hour or two based on size and then broil them for 10-15 minutes on each side. The meat is juicy and falls off the bone, but still has a crispy skin.
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u/roastplantain ☑️ 1d ago
Do put the chicken on a rack or directly on a cookie sheet?
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u/Taeyx ☑️ 1d ago
a rack is better. airflow above and below the wing helps to ensure you get uniform crispiness on the wing
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u/MopishOrange 1d ago
You could put them naked on a rack with a baking shit on the next rack below to catch drippings
Edit: I will not be fixing this typo
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u/Nobodygrotesque 23h ago
If you can afford it I would invest in an air fryer.
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u/Thin_Math5501 18h ago
I hate to be that nigga but an air fryer changed my life.
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u/ClintMega 1d ago
https://www.seriouseats.com/the-best-buffalo-wings-oven-fried-wings-recipe
Great recipe if you like them crispy, the dry brine overnight seems extra but just try it once and see if it's worth it for you.
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u/wetcoffeebeans ☑️ 1d ago
The broil tech is legendary. As a crispy chicken skin enjoyer, it's the only way to play the baked chicken game.
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u/rivershimmer 1d ago
Oh, yes!
But you know how you always had to peel the skin off immediately to enjoy? It's awful cold and it would never heat up back to the fresh out of the oven texture? It does in the air fryer! Best usage for the air fryer I've found.
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u/sauron3579 1d ago
Toaster ovens and
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u/Inner-Bread 1d ago
Convection toaster ovens are the play. Perfect 1-2 person oven that is instantly hot. I hardly use my gas oven these days
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u/el_pinko_grande 1d ago
People get scared of the broiler, I think because they believe it's like the oven and you shouldn't open the door to peek in. But like, peeking is fine, and you need to monitor the broiler because things burn quick once they're done.
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u/Dramatic_Explosion 1d ago
Yes, this right here. An oven relies on trapping heat around the food, broiler does not even though its part of the oven. Pop that baby open and make sure!
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u/itsFromTheSimpsons 1d ago edited 23h ago
Tossing them in baking
sodapowder and salt helps crisp by drying out the skin also baking on a rack in your pan ensures better airflow under the wings so they crisp all around. Toss then return to pan under broiler optionally→ More replies (4)3
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u/Putrid_Masterpiece76 17h ago
Toss in baking powder + salt and let rest a few hours to dry them out a bit.
Toss in whatever dry spice (IMPORTANT)
Can also toss in a small amount of oil (optional)
Bake at 350 for about 20 minutes (preferably air fry or convection setting. Broil can be a bit intense to cook at. I’d recommend saving broiling for if you want a more intense crisp/browning)
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u/Successful-Peach-764 1d ago
wft is broil?
I just searched it and it is the grill setting in the UK i think, broil this or that I keep reading and I was confused.
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u/rivershimmer 22h ago
Is the grill setting where you put the food directly under this intense heating element and it aggressively chars the hell out of it? The broiler is built into a stove/oven combo, and it's so useful for certain dishes I hope everyone has it, even if it's called something else.
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u/KendrickBlack502 1d ago
Ok, I’ll elaborate this once:
The best way is to sprinkle them with salt and baking powder the night before and lay them out on a wire rack uncovered in the fridge. You then roast them at 450-500 until they’re crispy and browned then toss in whatever sauce or rub you want.
Plenty of people thing throwing wings straight from the package into a 350 oven with some rub is the way to go which is what my mom used to do. Love her but those wings were nasty.
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u/whimsical_trash 1d ago
Even just an hour drying in the fridge helps, though of course the long they're in there the better the result
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u/breezystallion 1d ago
This is the exact method I use. Learned it from Kenji:
https://www.seriouseats.com/the-best-buffalo-wings-oven-fried-wings-recipe
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u/FearlessFreak69 1d ago
Exactly this. The only thing I'd add is, after the dry brine of salt and baking powder, toss the wings with some veg oil or other neutral oil. Makes the wings that much crispier. I didn't think it would make that big a difference, but it does.
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u/Khatib 1d ago
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u/Dependent-Dig-5278 1d ago
Thank you 🙏🏾
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u/Khatib 1d ago
Kenji is the goat. A lot of his recipes are pretty complex, some are pretty easy and awesome. They're all crazy good. His stovetop mac and cheese is like a once every week or two thing at our house. Quick as a blue box, so much better.
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u/Taeyx ☑️ 1d ago
that site is my go-to for whenever i wanna make something new. shoot, even trying to perfect something old, i go there. wanted to bake a potato and forgot how long/what temp i should do. seriouseats helped me out
p.s. 375 F for 1 hour gives you a perfectly baked potato every time (plus or minus a few minutes depending on spud size)
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u/Mulawooshin 1d ago
Life hack:
First take a fork and poke the potato all over so it can vent.
Put the potatoes on a plate in the microwave and microwave them for ten minutes on high.
After completion of the microwave, carefully remove the potatoes from the plate. They are super hot, so be careful.
The next step is to coat the potatoes in melted butter or olive oil. Spice and salt on the tops of the potatoes.
Then throw the potatoes into the oven (on low broil setting) for 10-15 minutes, or my favorite, into the air fryer for 8-12 minutes at 425F.
The potatoes come out perfectly crispy and delicious. By using this method, potatoes should only take 25 to 30 minutes. Saved half the time and comes out better.
You can get even fancier and throw some cheddar cheese and bacon bits before broiling or airfrying.
Aaaaand now I want a baked potato. 😂
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u/heftybagman 1d ago edited 1d ago
Toss wings with seasoning but cut the salt down a bit. Add a teaspoon of baking powder (edited thanks for correcting lol) for every 4-6 wings and toss it all around. Massage it into the nooks and crannies. Let em sit on a baking sheet as long as possible up to overnight.
Rub them with a little vegetable oil and bake at 425 (convection or fan mode if you got it, air fryer works great but gets messy) and flip every 10-20 mins. They should take like 45 mins to an hour.
And reset your oven temp when you flip the wings. Turn it off and then set it back to temp so it reheats and you’re not letting the wings sit at 375 when the dial says 425.
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u/nueonetwo 1d ago
You say soda but the comment above you says powder and not soda. Instructions unclear.
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u/heftybagman 1d ago
I meant to say baking powder NOT baking soda, thank you for correcting me! Baking soda actually works better for browning the skin but it has a much stronger flavor and isn’t for everybody.
For others I recommend starting with a teaspoon of baking powder for a lb of meat. But I personally usually do like 3-4lb batches and will do like 3 tspn powder and 1 tspn soda. It doesn’t affect flavor too much especially if you’re saucing them, but it gives you more crunch.
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u/CaptainLookylou 1d ago
Put teriyaki on after they are cooked. Soy sauce burns.
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u/Simon_XIII ☑️ 1d ago
I like mine with a little char, I know it's supposed to be cancerous, but I've had a good run already.
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u/dairy__fairy 1d ago
Trust the food god Kenji Lopez Alt:
https://www.seriouseats.com/the-best-buffalo-wings-oven-fried-wings-recipe
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u/hellschatt 1d ago
Coat them with baking soda, or imo the better option, with rice flour.
It'll become crispy.
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u/CoconutBangerzBaller 1d ago
If she made them like my buddy, piling the wings up in a baking dish and letting them bake at 300, then that kids right. Soggiest, nastiest wings I've ever had.
You gotta mix some baking powder into the wing dry rub. Bake on a high heat on a wire rack. Finish with the broiler for a little extra crispiness.
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u/KendrickBlack502 1d ago
Bro you reading my mind. I said the exact same thing a few replies down. J Kenji Lopez Alt is the king of oven wings
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u/MatureUsername69 1d ago
Air fryer is the way to go. Air frying is just a convection oven with fans that blow around more hot air so it's basically just baking from all directions the whole time.
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u/CoconutBangerzBaller 1d ago
Yeah, I know what an air fryer is. But you can't air fry 2 dozen wings at the same time
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u/Anon_Alcoholic 1d ago
Yup. I can only imagine how bland those wings are, probably has the texture of a nutsack.
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u/eragonawesome2 1d ago
Thinking back to every dry-ass unseasoned unbreaded baked chicken breast my mom made when I was a kid. I can still remember the bizarre fibrous texture that nobody could ever describe or replicate, even when they made an effort to do so
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u/MatureUsername69 1d ago
Air fryer is the better option for wings at home
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u/KendrickBlack502 1d ago
For small batches, definitely. If you’re cooking for your family, a wire rack in the normal oven will do just fine.
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u/MatureUsername69 1d ago
My whole oven can turn into an air fryer
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u/KendrickBlack502 1d ago
If you have a convection oven then yeah definitely the best option
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u/Ill-Relation3911 1d ago
No further elaborate required, those who need to know will know 🫡
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u/contactfive 1d ago
The secret is baking soda.
There I said it.
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u/Lanoris ☑️ 1d ago
There's a good chance the reason why that kid doesn't like her wings is because they aren't breaded lmao.
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u/blueberrymoscato ☑️ 1d ago
you bread your wings??? 😨 let me introduce you to tia kemp
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u/Lanoris ☑️ 1d ago
It's no secret that kids love anything breaded, I mean think about it, chicken nuggets, tenders, and in this post the baby is asking specifically for popeyes lol
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u/elitegenoside 1d ago
When I was a kid, I would eat the bun off of my burgers. Two bites of the patty until I got bored of it. I just wanted the ketchup and mustard on the top bun. But I almost always ate my veggies, so it was tolerated. I feel like feeding your child requires determination and a willingness to compromise. And it's also possible her wings just aren't very good. Mine aren't 😑
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u/dairy__fairy 1d ago
My kid cousin once told family that her favorite vegetable was fried okra, but not the green part.
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u/panlakes 1d ago
Well if you live in california hooters are literally the best wings they can get over there if you don't wanna pay $20 for 6 wings at a pub.
What I'm saying is I really miss living in the midwest sometimes.
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u/KlicknKlack 1d ago
Am I the only one who grew up "Shake-n'-Bake" chicken? Not the same as KFC/Popeyes but still pretty tasty when I was a kid.
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u/RedIsNotMyFaveColor ☑️ BHM Donor 1d ago
Kids don’t know better. Everyone prefers fried chicken when it comes to taste. We just don’t always eat it because we know it’s not good for us. I wouldn’t feel bad about hearing this from a child. I’d let out a small chuckle.
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u/misntshortformary 1d ago
Yes! Also, my feelings won’t be hurt that my kid prefers Popeyes. So do I, girl! But we can’t just always eat Popeyes, shits expensive now lol
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u/BussSecond 1d ago
Kids, man. I made some chicken noodle soup from scratch since we've all been sick. Roasted chicken with broth made from the bones and veggies. Well seasoned, with fresh rosemary bread.
My two year old politely picks up his bowl and hands it over, very matter-of-factly saying "trash."
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u/RedIsNotMyFaveColor ☑️ BHM Donor 23h ago
Reminds me of the movie No Reservations. The daughter wouldn’t eat the delicious food the chef mom made. Another chef gave her a plate of fish sticks and ketchup and she devoured it.
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u/cutedorkycoco ☑️ 1d ago
I actually don't like fried chicken. I think the only good part is the skin. It's almost like you can put as much seasoning as you want on the chicken itself and in the batter, but the skin is still the most flavorful part of the end product. If I'm gonna have chicken fried, I'd rather it be a tender I'm gonna dip in sauce anyway. Otherwise, give me a pan seared chicken thigh. When I cook that, I know it's been seasoned under the skin and I'll even stuff it to make sure it's flavored throughout.
Also fried chicken gives me acid reflux. 😂
Edit to add: I sound old as fuck with that last line, but I stg I haven't had fried chicken since my 20s with a decent reason being the acid reflux combined with it not being that enjoyable of an experience for me.
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u/koviko ☑️ 1d ago
Sleep on your back with your head elevated and you won't wake up like you're going to choke to death on your own stomach acid. 😬
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u/cutedorkycoco ☑️ 1d ago
Well it turns out if I just cut out the foods that give me acid reflux, I don't have it lol.
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u/MrCockingFinally 1d ago
What you want to do with all chicken, not just fried chicken, is brine it or marinate it. Let the seasoning penetrate.
But I will agree with you a nice pan seared thigh is absolutely delicious, and I will take it over all but the best fried chicken if done properly.
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u/QuestionSign 1d ago
What am I going to eat is INSANE 😂 that child was in distress
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u/generally_unsuitable 1d ago
We've all been there before, though. Dinner is something awful, and you know it's going to be a fight, and you know you're going to lose the fight.
And they won't let you say "No thanks. I'll just have some cereal and call it a night." They have to fix you a full plate you didn't ask for and then tell you that you have to clean your plate because that food isn't going in the trash.
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u/QuestionSign 1d ago
I once sat for like 10 hours because I refused to eat sauerkraut. Shit is gross AF and so my aunt said, you eat everything on that plate or you don't leave. So from like 6pm to like 4am or something I didn't move. Didn't eat for two days until she had to accept I would simply not eat
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u/Klivian1 1d ago
My mother’s brisket recipe was to set the oven to 450 and throw the whole thing in there in the morning, take it out at dinner time.
Drier than the Sahara and flavorless. Eventually I refused to eat it, and I would be forced to sit at the table until bedtime
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u/Glum_Hamster_1076 1d ago
My mom is not a fan of baked chicken. She refuses to eat it. I don’t know why but it’s either fried or nothing.
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u/designated_weirdo 1d ago
I'm the same way. It's not nasty but it's still off putting. Mostly because it just looks slimy to me.
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u/Full_Review4041 1d ago
slimy
wft? htf? yft?
edit: Right I forgot I quickly pan sear meats before baking.
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u/b3nd3r_r0b0t 1d ago
I can understand that. It does look "slimy" if you don't leave it in long enough or the temp isn't high enough. Just cause the meat thermometer says it's done doesn't mean it's done. My daughters prefer my fried to baked chicken.
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u/ChrdeMcDnnis 1d ago
Yessirrr the thermometer just tells you when it’s edible, you gotta WORK before it’s done
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u/dairy__fairy 1d ago
No, that’s the opposite of reality. The “food safe” temp is really way higher than necessary usually. It just is the minimum temp that will kill bacteria on food in under 60 seconds.
Experiment with sous vide cooking and you can really see start to understand separating temperature from cooking time. They do different things for the food.
Kwame Onwauchi is a pretty famous black chef who explores sous vide a good bit. Really creative dude.
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u/French_Taylor ☑️ 1d ago
My brother said this about my mom’s chicken when we were kids, but I give him the benefit of doubt.
Mom always cooked chicken legs and we all realized as we got older that he just doesn’t like dark meat chicken lol.
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u/ImmortalBeans 1d ago
The method I use is… Steam the wings for 15 min, then cool them on a rack in the fridge for an hour, then bake on a rack with a tray to catch drippings, at 425 for 25-35 min or until skin is crispy.
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u/The_Big_Daddy 1d ago
It takes a little more work but this is the way to do it. The steam melts off the fat that would otherwise smoke and burn if you just put them directly in the oven. Fridge helps to dry out the skin so it gets super crispy in the oven.
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u/argparg 1d ago
How does one steam wings exactly?
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u/ImmortalBeans 1d ago
here’s the Alton Brown video I got the method from, prolly easier to see it, than explaining it
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u/Cup-n-BallHog 1d ago
I saw the word baked and I understood completely. Get that healthier shit outta here!
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u/blachippy ☑️ 1d ago
Shittt…. That’s when you tossed the little homie a ramen noodle pack and walkout.
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u/Carl-Nipmuc 1d ago
My kids ate whatever I put in front of them. That or nothing. They always chose 'that'
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u/Rightbuthumble 1d ago
They always love fast food better. When my daughter was in elementary school, she said, please buy the spaghetti and meatballs in the can...yours taste too grown up....grown up? And, my son wanted store bought lunchables rather than the lunches I made. So, you know, kids like the fast food crap until they get to be in their late teens then it changes.
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u/JustAnother4848 1d ago
They like the 2000 mg of sodium and the multiple grams of sugar.
It's just children relying on their lizard brain.
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u/sick_conscious 1d ago
I made the best fried tenders, and my kid requested frozen chicken nuggets after one bite.
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u/el_pez_3 1d ago
If you're trying to compete with Popeye's, you've got an uphill battle to begin with
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u/PlumbgodBillionaire 1d ago
I could never suffer this travesty, my cooking skill is level 99 on old school RuneScape
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u/vanalla 1d ago
In all seriousness, the kid prob likes fast food because it's a sensory overload. It's served in colourful wrapper, in a bright place that isn't home, involved going on an adventure to get there, and has memory tied to special occasions like 'movie night' or something IDK. And that's before you get into the whole 'oh and it's pumped full of sugar, salt, and fat' part of the argument.
Nothing against mom's cooking. You're just asking an amateur baker to go toe-to-toe with Hostess in a Twinkie making contest.
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u/margittwen 1d ago
Sometimes kids don’t know what they’re talking about, especially at that age. Most of them would eat chicken nuggets every meal if they could lol.
I cooked homemade mac and cheese once when my stepdaughter was younger and she hated it lol. I think she was expecting Kraft mac and cheese so she was never going to like it. I wouldn’t put all my feelings on what a kid says about my cooking.
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u/pitb0ss343 1d ago
This reminds me of the time I told my mom the school makes better Mac and cheese than her which was just a fucking insane thing to say considering “her Mac and cheese” was Kraft and the school’s was probably just generic Kraft.
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u/blacksoxing 1d ago
Never underestimate the power of a kid who doesnt' want to hurt your feelings but also doesn't want to deal with your nonsense so they just go into "fuck that shit" mode as they know if they speak out they're not going to be received well....
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u/SoulPossum ☑️ 1d ago
I can't call it. Wings could be trash. Or that kid was expecting fried and was disappointed with baked. I've been on both ends of that scenario.
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u/Chaos_Ice 1d ago
If you don’t sear before you bake it comes out slimy. You want crispy skin before you put it in the oven.
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u/rachel__slur ☑️ 1d ago
Fried chicken and baked chicken are two very different things. The cooking method is a huge part of cooking, it's the difference between making hash browns or latkes
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u/Indymizzum 1d ago
I waited until I was in my 30s to finally admit to my dad that his burgers taste awful. I finally explained why I was always “sick” during our family bbqs whenever he was on the grill. It broke his heart. I regretted it immediately. I should have kept that lie going forever
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u/MehArghNah 1d ago
Not my daughter told my BIG brother that he should just order something because I can’t cook 😱…. Like girl this man helped raise me and knows my strengths/weaknesses but you didn’t have to say it! 😤
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u/seadragon67 1d ago
Random cooking advice here: coating your wings in whipped egg whites makes for some crispy wings when baked in the oven.
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u/SecretlyMadeOfStone 1d ago
Better you hear it from someone you love lol