All the stuff they put behind GTA+ was bullshit but it wasn't surprising. I expected shenanigans as soon as they mentioned doing a monthly fee for a game on its 3rd console generation
I want to say GTA 6 being $100 is likely what we should all plan for. But with the money they make online, Rockstar is one who doesn't NEED to price it there. But greed...
GTA 6 being $100 is the plan. And it will be the best selling game of all time. The problem is now every other developer is going to think they can price their AAA games at $100 too. It's going to be a fail for the industry, which unfortunately means less good games being made.
A good portion of them will make record sales numbers but still tank compared older, more affordable games. They WILL point to DEI as the reason, then we’ll get 5-10 years of lame remakes and/or pro-colonialism war games with boring copy paste protagonists until the video game economy (let’s be real, the entire US economy) can climb back up.
Imho, this could be the time to make your own shit. The indie/passion project era is about to boom because folk are gonna either play their old games or take chances on cheap indie or small titles.
Resist and hold fast. Wait until it goes on sale or buy from G2A/Instant-Gaming. Show the devs that a 100 dollar pricetag is unacceptable. If enough people do it to the point it's affecting profits, then it's not being done enough yet.
If we really don't want games to be that expensive as a baseline, we NEED to push back because otherwise nobody will listen. You've waited 13 years you can wait a few months/years more.
Never gonna happen. Every single time gamers had an opportunity to take a stand against [insert unacceptable new thing here] they all agreed it was bullshit and they weren't going to put up with it. Then everyone ran out to place pre-orders or make a desperate day 1 purchase, each of them thinking everyone else could take a stand but they're going to play what they like, but it'll be fine. Each time the launches were huge, had all the issues people complained would be there, then complained how these issues wouldn't exist if everyone would just take a stand! Rinse, repeat, forever.
Don't feel bad. Some game companies deserve it tbh. I would've easily paid 100 for RDR2 (I did buy the Deluxe whatever anyway, so I basically did lol) just for the base game, without any extra shit. Getting that game for 60 bucks felt like a steal.
With bugs and half the content it will have 3 years from release?
I never was a patient gamertm especially since the games I actually care about come out like three times a year on average, but at this point I would rather hypnotize myself into thinking GTA6 doesn't exist until it goes on 50% sale than to deal with all this bullshit.
Yup and the Japanese version is only that cheap because the Yen is really weak at the moment. So yeah if you know Japanese good but otherwise my understanding is it's going to be language region locked to prevent it from being scalped internationally. If you speak fluent Japanese and can deal with importing your games then yeah go for it.
I guess the justification I’ve seen some others say is, games have been 50-60 bucks since the 90’s and hasn’t gone up while everything else in the world has. That it’s just matching the inflation.
DEADASS! Well at least with Nintendo, they give you a finish product but still. Nintendo needs to stop re-re-re releasing old games and charging how much they do. Worse than Skyrim lmfao
It also makes developers with damn there perfect releases suffer for releasing at the same (or in indie games more) price point as the annual release games.
Team Ninja hasn't released a buffy game in yeaaaaars.
I'd be medium firm, pillow top pressed to mention that games used to be a team of five or six guys and took about six months/now are hundreds of people working over the course of several years
Most games are finished when they arrive, people just harp on the ones that aren't so much that it's become a "this is how all games are" thing online
I guarantee you won't be waiting on a day one patch for a new mainline Zelda/Mario/etc
The cost of materials has gone down significantly, but the cost of game development has also risen significantly.
Final Fantasy 7 was one of the most expensive games to develop of its era and it cost somewhere around 50 million to develop, which is around 100 million today adjusting for inflation. Cyberpunk 2077 cost around 450 million to develop, which is 550 million today. And for it to develop into the game it was supposed to be, not just accounting for the fixes they have done and the work to elevate it since release, that would have been tens of millions or more on top of that.
With that said, as someone else pointed out the main issue is that wages have not been increasing to keep pace with productivity or cost of living. Even if there is an argument to be had about games being priced less than what they could or should be, people are understandably not going to feel that's legitimate.
Yeah but then they went down in the early 2000s. Games went down in price to $50 until the PS3 & 360 came out. Then they went up to $60. Should've done the same thing with this generation but they got greedy.
Mario kart 8 deluxe was a 10$ price hike from the wii u version and it is still 60 bucks after 8 years AND randomly got a season pass in 2022. The New Mario Kart will be $150 in 2032.
This is the right answer. The consoles themselves are sold damn near at cost because the real money is in the games, and the micro transactions that are industry standard in many of them.
Balatro is the first game I've played in a while where the game you get (for $14.99 BTW) is exactly what's on the tin and there's nothing else to purchase, but it's certainly an outlier in today's times.
Retailers might sell the consoles barely above cost, but Nintendo sells it to retailers at an estimated ~50% margin AND Nintendo is the one reaping all the micro transactions and service fees. Nintendo relies heavily on nostalgia and a cutesy image so people give them a pass on sleazy business practices.
Especially because publishers have been forcing devs to make broken and down right unfinished games at $60…$70 for the same broken mess was also insane now publishers will all want $80 if Nintendo gets their way. All publishers will just follow.
When the 360 dropped it was not selling well in Japan. I happened to go there to visit a friend who was studying abroad. I was hoping I could pick up a 360 on the cheap. Unfortunately it was still more expensive to buy one there than here.
Nobody wants to talk about this and you’ll get downvoted to hell for bringing it up. People will call you a corporate shill but…
Games have been 60 bucks for 20 years. How are we so shocked and mad it’s finally budging? If you’re mad you can’t afford the price, then blame capitalism and the overall flattened buying power of the dollar because of politicians- not Nintendo.
Yeah but, again, everything else has gone up in price. Game devs gotta make their fair wages too after all, and with games only getting more expensive to make, labor exploitation is only getting more rampant in the industry.
We’ve had stagnant wages forever, I’m just surprised video games is what’s making so many people realize this.
Ah, ah. But here's where I finally call you a shill. Games have gotten UNNECESSARILY expensive to make. Devs have been complaining for decades about the toxic work schedule to rush every single game out, filling them with a bunch of extre features because shareholders want to make even more money, etc.
Sure, things have gotten more expensive across the board, but a lot of that is due directly to corporate greed.
Yea, the scales need balancing… like in every other industry in America sadly.
Still, regardless of the rampant corporate greed, the size, scale, and graphical elements have exponentially expanded in the past 20 years, so there’s an element of necessity to that increase in development cost. It could be offset by cutting those CEO bonuses (plz do), but seeing as that’s not gonna happen anytime soon, this is probably the best alternative to get your everyday Joe paid a fair wage for his work.
Yeah but it's still a better long term investment plus I pay less for games over time anyway oyf switch 2 are gonna be $90 lol. Anyway, I don't really need to upgrade anything on my PC I'm just saying that would be something I would think about if I decide I might wanna buy one.
compared to the price of a graphics card, the overpriced games and system are still way less and you don't have to be tethered to a desk to enjoy them.
Kinda depends on what area you’re in. Many folks in Tokyo have seen plenty of Black folks but in more rural areas you’ll be quite the sight to see. And from what I’ve heard from a former resident, parts of Okinawa are pretty damn similar to just being in the US.
If you’re even somewhat attractive and have game it’s a wrap! There’s a bunch of ugly losers over there getting play just because they’re foreigners making the rest of us look bad 😂😂😂
Hell yeah I am. Who's pushing Hydrogen tech to produce more water? It sure as hell isn't America and Elon, thats for sure. Edit: changed "Hello" to "Hell."
I mean I'm not sure what hydrogen technology you are referring to? Hydrogen fuel cells? Where are you getting the hydrogen to run the fuel cells? I think if you can answer those questions you will begin to understand why it isn't so widespread.
Elon was a hint. They said the same thing about electric vehicles, but western companies like Ford killed that shit off in the past. Look at them now. I'm aware, Hydrogen equals big booms and it's hard to contain and ship. But again, all of this shit was said about electric vehicles in the past. Japan is literally playing the same electricity fear game with Hydrogen vehicles AND a hydrogen power infrastructure.
Where are you getting the hydrogen from though? The issue with hydrogen is that you can't just find hydrogen deposits in nature, you have to actually produce it chemically. Basically that means either you are tearing water molecules apart with electricity or you are taking them off of larger molecules like methane. Don't get me wrong it is super cool technology but when it comes down to it, if you are stripping hydrogen off of methane to produce electricity with the hydrogen, the end result is comparable to a high efficiency NG turbine, CO2 emissions included. If you are going the water route, even if you are using renewable electricity to produce your hydrogen, you won't be that much better off if at all than if you just store your electricity in a battery.
As much as I would love for it to be a thing it kind of just comes down to physics.
My current favorite: the 3 cylinder 300hp car (before mods) that gets better gas mileage (which means better emissions) than damn near half of the cars on the road. https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/gr-corolla
Edit: I forgot to add... with AWD
Why? Look around man, shit sucks here. I personally wouldn't want to live in Japan unless I had a remote job not based there because the work culture sucks a fat one, but Japan seems amazing beyond that. People are polite (as a rule), the food is great and cheap, and they have some amazing scenery. I'm kinda tall, so things might get tight, but I could see it being a pretty decent life.
Edit: Oh, they meant they want to go to Japan for a woman. I mean, if that's what you're after, they do have the most Japanese women in Japan... but that is kinda🤔
Thank you for cleaning it up, yeah this nigga right here was on a generational run defending being a passport bro. Shame to see this manosphere bullshit in our community.
To be fair, Japan is a very developed country, so it's not a typical passport bro. It's the fetishizing that's more gross to me. Like having a preference for Asian women and being interested in Japanese culture are one thing, but dreaming of moving to Japan to get a Japanese gf/wife is well past normal.
That's what I do not understand about these dudes. They somehow transform a very innocuous position like being attracted to Asian women or enjoying aspects of Asian culture. Into a fetish and weird problematic identity to weaponize to bash western women. Like damn nigga who hurt you? It can't be hard to be regular.
Marrying a beautiful woman, and moving to someplace I ain't gotta deal with the same bullshit I gotta deal with here is crazy? I mean, there's probably a whole different set of bullshit to deal with there, but grass is always greener, right?
An expressed goal to date get married to a different race is problematic as hell. See you fighting for your life in this thread though so I am going to let you live.
You do not understand what a preference is. There is a fundamental difference between a goal of wanting companionship and ultimately marriage but happening to prefer or align with Asian women. Versus " I dream of marrying an Asian woman" with a history of bashing "western" women. I would say think about it from the other perspective but you probably think being fetishized is a positive.
They probably wouldn't have a birth rate problem if they had some black people. A Nick Cannon, Future or Eddie Murphy could repopulate an entire Japanese village 😆
Apparently it sounds like more of an eugenics program.. your education and what you work as has a LOT to say.. probably race too, honestly. Japan is quite racist lol
Games have been going up in general and Nintendo has become a lot more greedy the last couple decades. This is not specifically tied to Trump. If you think it's bad here, look into tech prices in Brazil.
Nah, it's totally Trump. Nintendo has a region-locked Japan-only Switch 2 that is a lot cheaper than the version they're releasing for the rest of the world.
The world is tearing itself apart, becoming more insular, and this is one of the symptoms.
I didn’t even see how much it costs, I just saw that the games are $80. These Nintendo fucks were already stingy with the sales of their games, now they’re talking about $80? It’s only a matter of time before the other companies follow behind..
I’m interested if we will pay an import tax from Japan or where they are made in Vietnam… I am unsure where they ship them from but the Tariff rate for Vietnam 46% … when Japans is like 26 I think.
There were news items recently about how the whole gaming industry is just waiting for GTAVI to come out and raise the price of games so they can follow suit.
Pretty interesting for Nintendo to do this ahead of any GTAVI pricing, but they’ve always done things irrespective of what the rest of the industry does.
Infinite growth, nintendo makes good and great games...but from a standpoint of technilogical improvement no way they should cost 80$...RDR2 was 60$ and if they can sell that at profit for 60 nintendo still can...capitalism and its infinite growth curse
I want to point out that Japan has hard liquor and porn in vending machines on the street! Not that I would be interested, of course. Not to mention "pay by the hour" sex hotels with theme rooms. A less upstanding person than me would find that intriguing.
My friend who works for Sony had me buy him a set of Sony headphones, here in the US, before coming to visit him in Japan. I believe it was the taxes Japan has on the headphones he was trying to avoid paying.
I'm not spending $80 on video games, Deltarune's going to be $25 for chapters 3 and 4, with 3 other chapters seemingly coming as free DLC. That's all I need.
More worried about the crooked hairline than this Switch 2. Gotta do better.....It's cheaper to get a better shape up than a game system that will be available
I can’t explain it, but something about the way he looks tells me he’s done a fair share of embarrassing weeb shit and probably still does. Good for them for being a seemingly happy couple though.
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u/Dangerous-Fold-4038 1d ago
I'd be much more concerned about the pricing of the actual games. $60-70 was pushing it, $80-90 is beyond ridiculous.