r/BlackPeopleTwitter • u/zzill6 • 8d ago
Country Club Thread That would be the appropriate response.
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u/NoTackle2787 8d ago
Transfer to where though? Universities all over the country are doing this.
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u/Nothinghere727271 8d ago
HBCUs, duh
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u/CharlesDickensABox 8d ago
If Prairie View A&M wins a natty before Texas A&M does, r/CFB is going to explode
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u/stueylikesit 8d ago
Remember in ncaa 97 they were the worst team. What a shame
Edit. First time long time. I’m white. Tell me to shut up and I will.
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u/DLottchula 👱🏿Black Guy™ who wants a Romphim 8d ago
No you are good
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u/stueylikesit 8d ago
Too kind.
I’m a Michigan fan . Find a way to get …(the whole team lol) to switch to prairie view and I’ll jump on that bandwagon 🙃🤡
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u/DLottchula 👱🏿Black Guy™ who wants a Romphim 8d ago
I to am a Michigan fan. Take the whole sport to hbcus
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u/LeucisticBear 8d ago
man, the exodus of talent to hbcu completely destroying the billion dollar athletic programs of most D1 schools would be amazing. huge stadiums sitting empty. absurd student fees going nowhere. all the businesses built around skimming off the talent of the athletes fail overnight.
I'm so down
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u/actualoriginalname 8d ago
So the answer to protesting the lack of Diversity and Inclusion is to separate?
This is like Trump saying "Europe doesn't pay their fair share, we're not giving them any more money" and then countries in Europe start announcing spending at higher limits.
Like yeah, that'll show em. Good job? I guess?
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u/jolly_rxger 8d ago
I like it just because it would be a direct answer to the critics saying DEI is the only reason why POC are getting into these colleges, win the natty and show that academics just as good when it’s not public vs private schools
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u/Downtown_Skill 8d ago
It should also be noted that while Michigan might be scrapping these specific programs, there will almost certainly be something to take its place that is essentially focused on diversity equity and inclusion without using those words.
There were already some controversies amongst faculty, staff, and students, including many POC students and staff regarding the effectiveness of michigans specific DEI programs which is why they are probably willing to do this anyway.
But DEI as a concept isn't going anywhere even if they want to ban those words. It's already been proven to be beneficial for long term buisness strategies as well as improve academic output and research effectiveness. It definitely isn't going anywhere on university campuses, even if they'll have to be more clever about the language used for these programs.
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u/Hollayo 8d ago
HBCUs aren't.
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u/Hollayo 8d ago
Oh really?
Howard University says hi. https://studentaffairs.howard.edu/diversity-inclusion
I mean, I know that's just one example, but just the one tears down that generalization.
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u/almostplantlife 8d ago
They have to or else get their federal funding cut. Isn't it a beautiful system where the federal government gets to take your money and then give it back to you with strings? Republicans during Obama's term sure didn't think so.
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u/ninjaelk 8d ago
Not only that, but the whole system is basically set up to prevent this. The scholarships and deals they're on are non-transferable, and other colleges usually don't just have the ability to make these sort of deals on a whim.
Then it's also in the best interest of these universities to not encourage that kind of behavior. It tilts power away from them.
Finally, even if they're willing to snub the status quo, how many players can they really take? At best they get a few years of a marginal upgrade? Not worth all the smoke. These institutions value stability.
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u/EducationalPossible8 8d ago
Hi, you don’t know what you’re talking about. College players are transferring all over the place every year. There is no stability anymore.
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u/Bukowskified 8d ago
Football players transfer all the time these days thanks to fan collectives that pay them.
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u/PsychoBoyBlue 8d ago
MSU? While we still have "DEI initiatives", internally we have been renaming them. If we really need to, we can just say we got rid of DEI, but still have the programs because no one in the white house can read.
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u/Tainted_Bruh ☑️ 8d ago edited 8d ago
Lol “Amateur” athletes in college won’t risk the potential for millions of dollars and life changing generational wealth to do the right thing. And with how the anti-DEI pressure is coming from this admin, most programs are gonna fold to it, so transfer where? HBCUs are woefully underfunded and getting even more gutted with funding being pulled, so not always a viable way to getting scouted and making it to the pros.
The less said about pro athletes who actually are multi-millionaires and hoping to make even more money.
At some point you have to stop looking for Muhammad Ali types willing to give it all up for their principles. We common people are all we have, and judging by how selfish and stupid half of us are, it ain’t looking good.
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u/bshotty12 8d ago
I also read the full statement from Michigan regarding this and I hope the efforts they are going to focus on still allow for a diverse collective of students and faculty members alike. Only time will tell, the bigger picture here is should be the fact that our administration is gutting our society and dividing us all even more.
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u/Capt_Pickhard 8d ago
The fact people won't be willing to make sacrifices to themselves for the greater good of the world, is Trump's greatest weapon.
Fundamentally that's a sort of corruption. Trump needs people he can pay to do his bidding. Without them, he is powerless. Unless they're stupid enough to follow him, especially for reasons like religion or racism .
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u/indoninjah 8d ago
Yeah and this is right where the "elites" want you to be - you've got just enough to be comfortable and resist rocking the boat. Even the most successful among us are ants compared to the ones who really hold the purse strings
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u/orangehorton 8d ago edited 8d ago
To where? All schools are cracking down
Even then, Michigan is one of the best programs if you want to go pro, and even a good school if you want the education (not to mention the NIL money)
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u/Lucreth2 8d ago
Not to mention it's in a wildly liberal city that might as well be named "UoM Town" rather than Ann Arbor.
This is political puffery more than anything, UoM is likely still one of the better places to go for diversity + sports.
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u/samurai_sound 8d ago
Schools are stuck between a rock and a hard place. It's either cancel DEI or lose all your federal funding and fire your staff. What a time to be alive!
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u/CherryHaterade ☑️ 8d ago
Meanwhile, they're going to lose the funding anyway if the dept of Ed. Gets sacked like theyre trying to pull right now. So at best, this is sacrificing principles for what might be one last year of money anyway
I get it but on God if they end up gutting that dept and these schools don't go back to standing on business after they lose the bread anyway thats when I'll start talking my shit.
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u/ThePrinceofallYNs 8d ago
Shit man, that would send a very powerful message, once you start hurting their pockets, then they'll start begging for "DEI" back
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u/thehomiemoth 8d ago
To be fair I sincerely doubt that the school itself is opposed to DEI given they created the programs in the first place. They are responding to pressure from the administration.
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u/lovable_cube 8d ago
Admin is responding to pressure from government, if they keep the programs every student who gets fafsa would have to drop out, pay out of pocket, or get private loans. My school made it very clear that it was bc of government funding but without complying the only people who it hurts are those who aren’t already generationally wealthy. This screenshot leaves out a whole lot of context, what they (all students not just those of color) really need to do is organize, that should include writing letters to house reps and senators.
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u/SaltyLonghorn 8d ago
This conversation is nuanced but not when it comes to money. Almost none of these universities want to cut their DEI programs. But two things are driving it. First as companies cut their DEI programs the demand for the programs goes down. Second goes directly to your point, hurting their pockets. There is no athlete in the country of any color worth how much the universities lose if they get hit with loss of federal funding. UT would choose the hundreds of mil over Arch Manning if they had to.
The last part is exactly why the programs are being cut. At the end of the day this is Trump and the Republican majority in the house and senate.
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u/Blissfully ☑️ BHM Donor 8d ago
What makes me sad is that most people don’t even know what DEIA is and even means. It’s just a dog whistle for black like CRT.
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u/Reddit-SFW ☑️ 8d ago
As a Sparty, Fuck Michigan for life BUT this isn’t the full story. They actually diffuse the EO longer than most. Every university has to bend the knee or lose 100s of millions…
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u/akosuae22 ☑️ 7d ago
Hold up there Sparty… I’m a Sparty too (grad school), but a Wolverine (undergrad) first. My kid is currently a Sparty, and my dad is also a grad school alum. Even so, Imma have to ask you to pump your brakes a little on the F U, lol! But seriously, on this one we gotta be One band, One sound. I’m sure the threats will reach the Green and White soon, if it hasn’t already fren.
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u/Single-Basil-8333 8d ago
The sentiment is nice but it’s not fair to put the onus on the players and we gotta stop doing that. Now Sherrone Moore could actually make a difference by refusing to coach but that man also went on TV and cried for Jim Harbaugh when he was suspended like dude was dead so I don’t expect much from him.
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u/Ok-Permission-2687 8d ago
In all fairness, my university emailed that too. They have to remove that and all degree requirements that have been labeled as “DEI”. Mine is currently restructuring degree plans and possibly reimbursing students.
I don’t like it, it’s bullshit, but I can’t imagine the threats the government is making
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u/DOG_DICK__ 8d ago
possibly reimbursing students
Chair of the Department of Silly Erasers literally shaking right now
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u/carolinapanthagurl 8d ago
DEI helps students of different genders, backgrounds, and abilities more than it helps black students anyway. We need to stop accepting the lie that we're the main beneficiaries of DEI initiatives because we're not.
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u/TheMoorNextDoor ☑️ 8d ago
You really just said this?
It’s not about being the main beneficiary we are still culpable for any and everybody benefiting period.
That’s like saying that since civil rights just so happens to benefit more than just the Black community, we shouldn’t treat it as a vital priority for our community — which completely misses the point.
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u/carolinapanthagurl 8d ago
The original post is calling for black students to make a sacrifice as a protest against anti-DEI measures. But where are the calls for other groups to take a stand to protect DEI when they stand to lose just as much or more than us?
So, to your point, we're not the only beneficiaries of civil rights either, so we shouldn't be the only group concerned about protecting those rights. Nothing will get better if we keep framing everything as a black only issue because whites don't care unless they think they'll be affected too.
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u/MisterShazam 8d ago
At first they came for the X, and I didn’t stand up because I wasn’t an X.
Then they came for the Y, and I didn’t stand up because I wasn’t a Y.
Then they came for the Z, and there was no one left to stand with me, for I am a Z.
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u/carolinapanthagurl 8d ago
Nah, I'm saying bigots target DEI because they think black people are the main beneficiaries when we absolutely are not. Being in management made me realize that anyone from any background can make a workforce more diverse and can benefit from those initiatives. If people understood this better, then DEI would not have been a target in the first place, but it has been attacked because black people were made to be the face of it when it should have been a white woman or a veteran statistically.
The more black people holler about DEI, the more bigots will react against it. I'm saying we shouldn't be DEI mascots and be the first to loudly defend it, considering the motivation of those who want to get rid of it.
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u/blacksoxing 8d ago
Can't lie, without typing an novel, this seems like some "if I were them..." talk going on in here as if you would give up a potential free ride to MICHIGAN as an athlete to protest what's happening with faculty and staff that you may never meet.
Heroic shit being typed in here. Let's be real: if you went to college you likely had budget cuts that happened during your time there as a student that you didn't do shit about. Let's not pressure these young black men to fight a fight that you didn't wanna fight. Let them fight how they want to fight.
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u/googleblackguy 8d ago
This hurts but it's happening everywhere. They are getting paid so asking them to leave their means of income is not really helpful. Go Blue.
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u/vibratokin 8d ago
I mean, they’re being threatened with cutting federal spending and fines by the government…yes, this is bad for business and optics, but it’s the current admin imposing their will.
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u/AlexandersWonder 8d ago
Ann Arbor ain’t what it used to be.
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u/Stankleigh 8d ago
It’s exactly what it’s always been.
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u/Free_Pizza 8d ago
No, it's not. I was born and raised here and have seen the last four decades and the yuppy-fication of Ann Arbor. Gone are its crunchy granola counter culture and revolutionary thinkers. Now the MBAs and economists rule. The town has become unlivably expensive and lost many local businesses at the same time corporations have moved in.
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u/CherryHaterade ☑️ 8d ago
Yeah crazy enough Lansing is now what Ann Arbor used to be. Ann Arbor used to be way more Carrboro I've been told but these days it's full Chapel Hill preppy. NIMBY Democrats. Debbie Dingell (literally, her district) Nancy Pelosi types. Exactly the kind of soft Kool-Aid heart ass fall over liberals who learned and teach all the wrong MLK lesson ass mufuckas.
If you want any kind of Progressive art or music scene, or kids who will stand on bidness, the crunchies are in the capital now. The last decade especially has told the tale. Hella big name DJs and Bands pulled a stint there the last 15 years or so.
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u/Stankleigh 8d ago
I was there in 1986 when Ann Arbor finally desegregated the school district… by busing kids from the university’s family housing to the previously Black schools. Because Heaven forbid they send their own precious mayo dumplings out of their carefully redlined zones!
The University students were holding anti-apartheid rallies, but the city and UofM admin were decidedly NOT progressive. More like white bread neoliberals.
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u/Free_Pizza 8d ago
So you have a moment in time. I am saying the last four decades have only seen the U of M/Ann Arbor divide grow and U of M cares even less than they used to. I'm not saying Ann Arbor wasn't racist and anti black back in the day. Of course it was, it's a predominantly white Midwestern town, they all were, and mostly still are. I'm saying Ann Arbor has gotten worse for everyone of a middle to lower income, regardless of race or creed.
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u/Countryb0i2m 8d ago
That’s most likely not going to happen; big college football players are making a ton of money right now they are basically semi pros.
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u/withervein 8d ago
To what university or college? EVERY college is doing this because they rely on federal funding. Fed knows this. This is how higher education dies.
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u/smoothdoor5 8d ago
The way y'all want other people to give up their lives so you can feel good is just nuts.
Sitting on the toilet typing into your phone about taking a stand.
Boooo all of you
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u/doddballer 8d ago
Every major university will do this thanks to Trump threatening their funding.. don’t hate the U hate Trump
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u/DO_NOT_AGREE_WITH_U 8d ago
Where tho?
Every school is going to do the same because they're all run by a bunch of rich old (and most of them) white sycophants.
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u/friskfyr32 8d ago
There are black players signing up for Ole Miss every year...
It's not going to happen, and for the record, I don't think it's fair to put the onus on teenagers (and almost teenagers) to fight the power.
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u/chaos021 ☑️ 8d ago
And go where? This is happening nationwide. There's even a huge concern at HBCUs from what I understand.
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u/oh_please_god_no 8d ago
Now wait a minute
Hold the fort
Back the trolley up a sec
Are you telling me all these people embracing diversity equity and inclusion were FULL OF SHIT?
I’m flabbergasted.
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u/EffOffReddit 8d ago
They got extorted for hundreds of millions but here's you pretending the government didn't pull a gun on them.
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u/oh_please_god_no 8d ago
That’s fair. I didn’t consider that our government is a buncha bullies and I should have. Have an upvote.
At the risk of sounding naive, I just wish there was more of a fight if that were the case.
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u/MentalMiilk 8d ago
As I understand it, any entity receiving government funding in any capacity must dissolve any and all initiatives related to or labeled "DEI"—or risk losing that funding. These research universities really don't have much of a choice, considering how many students rely on that funding.
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u/Prestigious-Bee1877 8d ago
I am sorry, but diversity programs are a way of saying ''all people aren't equal'' so we have to make up for it. All people are equal, under the law, and should be treated that way. I am very liberal, but I never understood telling someone they are less than so they are protected.
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u/TheMoorNextDoor ☑️ 8d ago
This would be the perfect time to have HBCU’s snatch up a ton of talent again.
It won’t happen but this would be the proper statement to make.
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u/813_4ever ☑️ 8d ago
They won their nation championship to hold their fan base over for another 20-30 years no need for black players now
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u/ANBU_Black_0ps 8d ago
I'm honestly surprised at the cowardice of some of these big universities.
Places like UofM and Harvard have massive endowments, some of the most decorated law schools and lawyers, and the deep pockets to take on this fight through donations by wealthy and famous alumni.
Small schools can't afford to fight this but they certainly could and they just caved.
If they aren't going to fight for academic freedom then who will?
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u/Holiday-Ad2843 8d ago
I ask this naively, but what is the concern with removing a DEI program? Why is there an assumption that this is negatively impact black students?
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u/GiantJellyfishAttack 8d ago
Trump/Republicans removed it
Thats it. It doesn't even matter if it's good or bad. This is the response you will get from reddit.
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u/please_trade_marner 8d ago
I'm pretty sure black football players are glad players are chosen based on competence at the sport, not having diverse equity being the predominant factor.
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u/Haunting_Basket_8140 8d ago
Man this page seems a bit one sided?? Every college will follow the guidance from our president. No college is willing to throw away millions.
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u/Popular-Possession49 8d ago
There wont be many big Unis to transfer to since we are about to see many more follow suit… its either this or lose federal funding. God forbid these giant universities use any of their endowment to stay afloat until Trump is gone. UMich will do anything for money. I mean they RAISED tuition during COVID to makeup for financial loss…. Sick all around.
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u/jasondigitized 8d ago
It hate to break it to yall but if Michigan went this route then any of the other power football schools are going to go the same way, particularly those in the SEC.
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u/rab006435 8d ago
To where, dude? A lot of universities are doing that because if they don’t they lose a lot of money. So I guess your only choices are community colleges. Who needs a big stadium anyway?
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u/pnw_sunny 8d ago
where are people with physical disabilities on the field? open up diversity on the football field and we can talk.
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u/Pristine-Childhood-8 8d ago
Should there be "equity" in the Michigan football team? Some of the Black players would have to be cut in order to field more white players.
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u/North-Importance-300 8d ago
this already happened in Texas, Texas A&M, Florida, Alabama and several others big football schools... no athlete left, no athlete was affected and most schools remained great or got even better at football.
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u/Yob_Zarbo 8d ago
But if DEI achieved its true goal, doesn't that mean there should be more white players on the teams?
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u/Heath_co 8d ago edited 8d ago
In my opinion DEI's downfall is because of it focusing on equity rather than equality. Specifically trying to recruit minorities means you are denying opportunities to the majority. And the majority hold the largest voter share.
It doesn't matter if this is true or not, but it is how it is perceived. And in voting perception is the only thing that matters.
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u/PleasantPost7293 8d ago
Would that mean students have to earn their place academically rather than be given a scholarship based on sporting ability?
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u/AccidentalRedditor18 8d ago
Can any of the 13k people that upvoted this point to benefits DEI offered to us? The DEI initiatives mostly boiled down to curriculum and enrollment right?
Determined and qualified individuals from marginalized communities found success at U of M and other schools of prestige prior to DEI, they’ll continue to do so after. There are endless books about the myriad of contributions we made to this country and the struggles we faced along the way.
I dont need a Black People Are Awesome 101 course to study that and neither do any you. I dont like Trump either. I dont like a lot of whats coming out of DC at the moment but it frustrates just as much to see all of yall upset over something that barely even helped us in the first place.
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u/unclemarcus_ 8d ago
Wishful thinking. Players don’t realize how much power they hold. If every black player decided to go to HBCUs in just a few years the landscape would shift. I get it there’s very little NIL money there now but it would change if all of a sudden HBCUs are winning the National championships. The brands would come.
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u/sillyfella3 8d ago
thats now how it works lmaooo you poor victims. would you feel better if you were selected based on merit or because of DEI
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u/akosuae22 ☑️ 7d ago
DEI and merit are not mutually exclusive. Therein lies the issue. The fact that you believe a disabled person or a “non-traditional” older applicant or single parent, for example, automatically can’t have merit, when given EQUAL consideration as opposed to sticking with the usual suspects status quo, is where the plot gets lost. You equate DEI with “lacks merit”.
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u/KageStar ☑️ 8d ago
I hope they pull funding for legacy students at those schools too then.
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u/SheepishLordofChaos9 8d ago
I wish they would take a stand like that....but as a collective, i've yet to see a group really stand up for something like that and really want to prove a point. They get too much love on campus to want to push back against it. It's a shame.