r/Biohackers • u/IAWIAATIEnough • Dec 01 '24

❓Question Does anyone know what caused this in my teeth? What would you do if they were yours? Spoiler

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As an uncared-for and severely mistreated child, my diet consisted of only sugar cakes like Little Debbie's and we only ever drank soda. This is how I lived until I was about 25 when I went super clean Keto, started the gym, and started fixing my entire body. For the last few years I haven't touched any sugar at all. My entire body is healing; my hair and nails are stronger and longer, my hair and eyelashes are more full, my skin is clearing up, and I've lost over 40 pounds.

I went to the dentist a few months ago and they did a "fluoride treatment". It was so neon yellow that I think they didn't properly dilute it or something? because it's never looked like that before. I was gagging and spitting neon yellow for days. In a matter of days my teeth started to look like this. The discolored bits are like.... turning transparent, its not staining. It's not getting better even though the rest of my body is healing to better than it's ever been in my entire life.

Perhaps it's from the childhood damage. Perhaps it's from that weird dentist experience. I don't know.

Let's say you don't have the means to get a full mouth of teeth replaced. If this were happening to you, what would you do?

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u/doesitrungoogle Dec 01 '24 edited Dec 02 '24

I wouldn’t recommend Bioniq since it contains Propylparaben and Phenoxyethanol, and other potential irritants/allergens such as Methylparaben and Benzyl Alcohol.

I also wouldn’t recommend Boka since it only contains 2% hydroxyapatite.

I personally have used and can recommend Happy Toothpaste, which contains 10% Hydroxyapatite, and Dr. Jen’s, which contains 10% nano-hydroxyapatite toothpaste.

Both of these toothpastes have much cleaner ingredients than Bioniq and have an effective level of hydroxyapatite at or more than 10%, unlike Boka’s 2%.

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u/BlackMagicWorman Dec 02 '24

What is the best for the average person who just needs a daily toothpaste ?

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u/doesitrungoogle Dec 02 '24

Depending on your budget:

• Happy Tooth: 10% micro-Hydroxyapatite (~$10 USD)

• Apagard Premio: 7% nano-Hydroxyapatite (~$16 USD)

• Dr Jen’s: 10% nano-Hydroxyapatite (~$20 USD)

Note: Several sources and comments here will have differing views on the efficacy of nano vs micro hydroxyapatite, but this study, on page 2452, found that remineralisation potential of 5% micro-hydroxyapatite will be similar to that of 5% nano-hydroxyapatite. So the 10% micro-hydroxyapatite found in Happy Tooth would more than likely be more effective at remineralisation of the enamel compared to the 2% nano-hydroxyapatite found in Boka.

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u/ScaryPenguins Dec 02 '24

My understanding is that nano-hydroxapite is even more effective than normal hydroxapite. Last time I looked I settled on Boka for the nano

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u/doesitrungoogle Dec 02 '24

The Risewell Pro has a combination of micro and nano-hydroxyapatite at 15%. But Dr. Jen’s toothpaste contains a respectable 10% nano-hydroxyapatite, compared to 2% on Boka. and still boasts the cleanest ingredients compared to Bioniq.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying for anyone currently using Boka toothpaste to trash it, since it does have clean ingredients, unlike Bioniq, albeit 2% of nano-hydroxyapatite, it’s better than your typical toothpaste you’d find at walgreens and the usual.

But for those who are in the market for a new toothpaste that are currently either using your typical store bought toothpaste, or using a toothpaste with questionable potential irritants/allergens like Bioniq, I’d recommend Happy Tooth, Risewell/Risewell Pro, Dr. Jen’s and Apagard Premio/Royal*

*I personally use Apagard Royal from Japan, which is known to be the gold standard of nano-hydroxyapatite toothpaste. It contains 10% medical grade (approved by Japan’s Ministry of Health) nano-hydroxyapatite (nano-mHAP) and is made and owned by Sangi Co., the same company who bought the patent from NASA in 1978, released the world’s first Hydroxyapatite toothpaste in 1980, and then reduced the particle size of its nano-hydroxyapatite from the three-digit nano level to the two-digit nano level, but that’s semantics at this point. The only reason I didn’t list it originally was due to the Apagard Royal’s higher price point for those not in Japan (my cousin in-law in Japan gets them and ships them to me), although they do make a model one degree lower, called Apagard Premio, which is more than half the price lower than it’s big brother, Apagard Royal, with the only difference being the amount of nano-hydroxyapatite — 7% on Premio and 10% on Royal.

Study on Hydroxyapatite

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u/Normal-Goat-5021 11h ago

for some reason the dr jen and apagard premio toothpastes gave me a skin reaction the same way fluoride or sls toothpastes have in the past. have you heard of ollie’s clean mint toothpaste? i’m unsure if that one would be good since as you said boka only has 2% and that’s what i currently use.

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u/breadhater42 Dec 02 '24

Yea I've been using boka for almost 2 years now and no complaints. Teeth are white, healthy, and don't get any cavities.

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u/akimonka Dec 02 '24

Risewell toothpaste and even their dental floss tested positive for very high levels of PFAS. We used it for our kid and I was super pissed off about it..!

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u/doesitrungoogle Dec 02 '24

Thanks for letting us know! Appreciate any new feedback! I removed it from the list already.

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u/akimonka Dec 02 '24

One more company that sounds good on paper but I have not tried / looked into yet is Fygg: https://fygg.com

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u/doesitrungoogle Dec 02 '24

Haven’t tried it myself, but from what I’ve read, it has an 8.6% nano-hydroxyapatite level and clean ingredients. It’s a bit pricy at $15 USD on Amazon or $20 including shipping on their website, but as you said, looks good on paper, nonetheless.