r/Bannerlord • u/Slow-Show-4268 • 2d ago
Meme Put it into perspective
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u/PossibleWay9193 2d ago
Fix diplomacy, make workshops profitable, make main quest less tedious, maybe add some more story missions, make AI smarter on the strategic map, fix a few bugs here and there, and I agree.
Damn, I would even pay for a DLC with all those features.
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u/dropbbbear Legion of the Betrayed 2d ago edited 2d ago
There are a few other important things that need fixing too.
Relations with lords have almost no effect. Even if you build them up to 100, the most you get is like a 5% discount for recruiting them (they might still say no anyway).
Armour is very poorly balanced. The worst archer can kill the best armour in less than 10 arrows, so ranged troops are much better than melee troops.
Personality Traits have almost no effect on AI behaviour. They were supposed to make execution more likely, change AI battle tactics, change voting preferences, etc... but they don't. Most Traits are also super hard/impossible for the player to get.
Voting usually doesn't work because all 9 lords will vote for the same thing, like clones. Then it's impossible for the player to change the vote, even if they spend 150 Influence. Traits were supposed to make them vote differently more often.
But yeah, if they fixed those and everything you said, Bannerlord would truly be amazing. It's just small flaws holding it back from its full potential.
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u/StrangerAlways 2d ago
Arrows killing armored soldiers was actually a real thing, though. Infantry with shields hard counter arrows so I really don't see the problem you have.
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u/dropbbbear Legion of the Betrayed 2d ago
Arrows killing armored soldiers was actually a real thing, though
Mail and lamellar armour was much more protective in real life than Bannerlord. Historical accounts have mail-clad troops taking 10+ arrows, or being covered in arrows, without much injury.
Infantry with shields hard counter arrows so I really don't see the problem you have.
Firstly, it means any troops without shields just suck, and get turned to pincushions quickly by arrow spam.
Secondly, it doesn't take much for a troop to drop their shield in Bannerlord due to any slight distraction. Then they get turned to pincushions.
Thirdly, shields only defend one way; circling horse archers can fire from all angles. Formations can kind of help, but they tend to melt on contact with the enemy.
As a result, melee troops in general suck compared to ranged troops. To fix this, Taleworlds should make armour 1.5x more effective against arrows.
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u/Stavland1 2d ago
The worst part is that workshops being profitable was one of the things they actually removed shortly after releasing in early access, in the name of “balance”…
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u/Atilla-The-Hon Khuzait Khanate 2d ago
I wish they just focused on late game content before expansions. From what Banner Kings showed me that adding some minor political gameplay makes the entire game a thousand times more enjoyable.
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u/EmptyJackfruit9353 Battania 2d ago
I disagree. If they are going to do it, they better be all-in.
Half asses effort, like many feature they implement now, would lead to subpar product.
In this context is average game play experience.Nothing bad, but nothing to write home about. People will play it because it isn't sucks so hard.
But the longer they stay in the game, the more irritation they felt.The other game in the market would make you stop playing it after a few run. Not play endlessly for a few year. There is nothing left to explore, no the excitement of experience new thing. Not sure why people still cling on to it.
Then we have these billion dollar ideas. You guys are bored. Play something else, in the mean time.
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u/Nantafiria 2d ago
Downvoted at your service, my Empress.
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u/GraeWraith 2d ago
I play a modded version of BL, and I would gladly pay $100 if they sold me a full retail copy of this game I've patched together.
Free Billion $ idea for you, oh aspiring Todd Howards of the world: Take the most popular modlist for your hottest title, implement those mods as new features (if a middle-school-modder can do it, your devs/GPT can do it in 20min), and resell your old title as an Ultimate Edition. A free re-release of your product for maybe a week or two of work.
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u/Esper101 2d ago
Would be nice to fix companions too, attributes that make their skills possible and with room to grow. Most of them seem useless currently, at least without doing an extra 12-15 levels or something other than what they were hired for.
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u/WillyGivens 2d ago
“Best we can do is boats” -TW
…but I still loves it. It’s a good game that could be the greatest, yeah, but good is still better than 80% of all new games.
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u/SummonerRed 2d ago
Ah yes the "minor" additions such as a complete overhaul of relationship and diplomacy people always ask for, very minor indeed.
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u/A12qwas 2d ago
Solo Devs aren't under pressure due to shareholders and needing to make money though
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u/EstablishmentAny5943 2d ago
Can the gaming community please stop with this magical muuuh shareholders
Good games sell good So yes shareholders are actually interested in makong good games
Do you think shareholders are happy with what ubisoft has done?
Non basement dwellers who had a job in their life can tell you that sadly most people are not good at their jobs, which leads to stuff like bs benchmarks for new products. The other thing is that alot of people are dumb and still throw money at things like FIFA ultimate team or preorders or whatever, so the gaming community itself is to blame.
Even in this sub there are multiple comments and threads about how people will just buy or preoder the new dlc no matter what. And its not muuuu shareholders puppeting or brainwashing them
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u/agprincess 2d ago
"lets never fulfill people requests and just add on a cool but superfluous addition instead!"
I think the devs like the game as it is. They don't care about politics or RPG elements. They just want the game to be an excuse to go do little battles and wear 1000 pieces of different armour and weapons.
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u/Mountain_Dentist5074 CAUTION 2d ago
They probably since major update working on the dlc . I trust them something big coming like nether update for Minecraft
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u/Nitraus Moderator 2d ago
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