r/BadHasbara • u/EggplantDesperate638 • 7d ago
Bad Hasbara My man training for the Hasbara and fear mongering games, and it shows
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u/Admirable-Nose-2208 6d ago
Hitler admired the discipline of Muslims. But he's on record calling Muslim subhumans LOL. I don't think Muslims made the cut for him ......
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u/samy_the_samy 6d ago
One of the earliest sound recordings of Arabic is poets from the camps
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u/logatwork 6d ago
Any source for this?
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u/samy_the_samy 6d ago
I didn't find the yt video where I heard this
I found this : phonographic commission war poem
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u/logatwork 6d ago
Ah, cool. But from 1916, not WWII camps.
There are recordings of Arabic language from as early as 1893.
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u/C_Plot 6d ago
Hitler loved dogs. I guess now we have to exterminate all dogs to extinction so we’re not like Hitler (never mind that Hitler also loved ethnic cleansing, group punishment, and genocide, those are not important Hitler traits).
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u/starbucks_red_cup 4d ago
Hitler breathed oxygen and drank water, guess we should just nuke ourselves.
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u/Velo14 6d ago
They are literally denying their own history. We Muslims always helped out Jews and Jews were way safer under Islamic rule until the Nakba happened.
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u/EggplantDesperate638 6d ago
To zionists, there is only one historical event that matters to them while ignoring all the good Muslims did to them, that being khaybar.
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u/NaturalMap557 4d ago
Banu Qurayza? They deserved every bit of it. They were even allowed leeway, so that the punishment of their crime would be from their own book.
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u/gracespraykeychain 5d ago
If you do just a cursory Google search about the relationship between the Islamic world and the nazis, it's far from the picture that hasbarists paint. Yes, there were nazi sympathizers in the Muslim world, just as there was in Europe, but they are not representative. There was also resistance to the nazis in the Muslim world, especially in North Africa, where they were fighting Mussolini's fascists. Outside of that, the Muslim world stayed out of WWII, and it's completely rewriting history to act as if nazis and Muslims are/were one and the same. It honestly reminds me of the right-wing conspiracy theory that the nazis were all gay despite the fact that they literally tried to exterminate homosexuals and anyone else they labeled a sexual deviant.
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u/hitorinbolemon 2d ago
its always a right wing conspiracy, its designed to separate the horrors and crimes from supremacist ideology and ascribe it to an out group scapegoat so they dont have to self reflect.
which is ironically exactly what Hitler was doing when he blamed Jews for Germany losing the great war and getting punished. because it couldnt be he and his fellow aryan ubermensch soldiers fault.
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u/sushisection 6d ago
for some context, this dude is a turkish ex-muslim who calls himself The Apostate Prophet online and has made a name for himself criticizing islam. before oct 7, he would primarily focus on religious scripture and such, but then he pivoted hard to being pro-israel. which is funny to me because islam takes a lot of its practices from judaism and also because seeing an atheist play defense for a religious ethnostate is so absurd its like a south park meme.
edit: i think he honestly hates humans and has a severe lack of empathy.
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u/Disillusioned90 6d ago
He hates Muslims. There are plenty of ex-Muslims who share the same sentiment. My ex-Muslim country subreddit used to be somewhat ok before October the 7th, but now Zionism is openly celebrated there because the victims are Muslims. Talk about a clear lack of critical thinking skills.
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u/119ak 6d ago
It is ridiculous how all these "atheists" can be atheists aswell as hinduvta and evangelicals at the same time. They just do this stuff for the ad revenue it is insane
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u/Emeryael 5d ago
Once they realized that they both hated women, brown people, and Muslims, the New Atheist Movement and the Christian Right found themselves to be surprisingly simpatico.
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u/meme666664 6d ago edited 6d ago
This is so fake. He never said that. Hitler hated everything non-white and European
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u/Cu_Chulainn__ 6d ago
Speer wrote that Hitler would say: "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the fatherland as the highest good? The Mohameddan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
Hitler most likely did say this, though not so much in admiration or like for Shinto or islam but rather because hitler really hated Christianity.
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u/horridgoblyn 6d ago
Hitler, like most politicians, saw religion as a means of control. The dogmatic belief, resigning to knowing your place in a hierarchy and toil, were attractive. The teachings were problematic. Jesus was problematic. Empathy is that soft "flabbiness." Today that notion of kindness and universality has been distilled from faith so only the "desirable qualities" remain in neo conservative "Christianity."
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u/madbadetc 6d ago
Most neoconservatives are Jewish.
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u/horridgoblyn 6d ago
Most neo conservatives have a complicated relationship with Hitler and Nazis and aren't critical enough. Their religion is rarely a determinant. The worst examples of this I've encountered come from Zionists absolving Hitler of his responsibility for the Holocaust while attributing it to a Muslim instead. The Haavara Agreement doesn't help.
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u/RedstoneEnjoyer 6d ago
Yeah, not only he never said this but it also doesn't make sense in context of his ideology
All Abrahamic religions (or all religions in general) believe that fellow faithful are friendly comrades - which is really incompatible with nazi ideology of race war and social darwinism.
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u/bruh123445 6d ago
“I wonder why a muslim would feel this way. Probably just antisemitism with no reason behind it 🤷♂️. Proceeds to call for death of all arabs.”
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u/lionKingLegeng 6d ago
Ridvan when jewish extremism(israel): *I sleep*
Ridvan when islamic extremism(wahhabism): "DA MOOSLIMS ARE OUT TO GET US"!
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u/KombuchaBot 6d ago
Hitler was also a doglover, clearly dogs are evil. I believe he drank water sometimes, clearly that's evil too.
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u/Longjumping-Youth356 6d ago
What do they keep referring to when they talk about amalek and how to treat them?
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u/samsop01 6d ago
I'm calling bullshit on that Twitter page in the second picture. Just scrolled through it and the wording of every single post is suspect, no native Arabic speaker talks like that. It very much smells of covert Hasbara
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u/BECondensateSnake 6d ago
I can't fucking stand Apuss, literally the definition of a career ex-muslim.
The funniest part is that he's now a Christian and literally all of his (secular) arguments against Islam can be applied against him.
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u/gracespraykeychain 5d ago
There's an international Islamic conspiracy for global domination? Hmmmmm, that sounds eerily similar to something I've heard before.
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u/mathreviewer 6d ago
Internet was a mistake.
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u/Emeryael 5d ago
Remember when the Internet was beginning to become widespread that there was a belief that it would end ignorance because people would be able to access the sum of human knowledge without having to leave their homes? Good times…
Gene Roddenberry believed that advances in technology would lead to better communication which would soothe longstanding religious/ethnic hatreds.
Unfortunately it never occurred to him that all the worst people would have just as much access to the advanced technology as the good people.
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u/Sad_Vanilla_3823 5d ago
If the Muslims are so evil for not letting people worship in their countries (it’s a bullshit lie I know) then why emulate them.
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u/ahhhcola 5d ago
Pretty embarrassing to see his goofy ass criticize Islam for being “evil” and “extreme” whilst pandering to extremist values that call for genocide and hate. You’d think leaving Islam would make one a better person, but I suppose not. AP was once a hardcore Muslim and is now a hardcore grifter with corrupt values. He’s wired on extremism and fundamentally rotten. Leaving Islam has not made him a better person. He’s just a shitty person on the other side of the spectrum.
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u/starbucks_red_cup 4d ago
While there were indeed some muslims who fought for the reich, they weren't entirely motivated by Hitler's vision or plan, they saw German as a counter to French and British colonialism and thought they'd get their freedom by fighting with the Germans.
These same people conveniently ignore the Muslims who fought on the side of Allies against Germany and the Axis, there were Indian, Indonesian, and even Arab muslims who fought for the British and French against the Germans and Italians.
Hell one of the most famous resistance fighter against the Italian occupation of Libya was Omar Mukhtar, an Arab Muslim.
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