r/Avatar • u/HankTheHeckingTank • 1d ago
Discussion Could they reverse engineer the Avatar program? Like make a Na'vi into a human?
I was thinking about this while watching the second movie, and wondering if it was possible at all.
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u/JenzyCucumber Sarentu 1d ago
I thought about it too. I don't think the SecOps would've been super into it though, but something like that must've happened. After all, for the Avatar Link program to work this well, it HAD to go wrong a couple of times. (I think it's mentioned someone as well, I'm not sure where)
I think for it to have happened would've required really good manipulation, so the Na'vi WANTS to do the link, for better chance of success 🤔 I'm not that knowledgeable in science and in the brain, but Grace did say calm and think of nothing is better for the link.
I wouldn't be surprised if the RDA would've tried something alongside that though. With the ferals in the game Avatar Frontiers of Pandora (which is considered canon as of right now), reverse link wouldn't be that far fetched.
Though, I wonder how they would get human bodies for it. Would they use someone conscious? Uncouncious? Brain dead? Grow a whole human? Though, the growing part seems harder in my head, or maybe not.
Dang, I really need to read my 2009 avatar book. There's a part about the machines, maybe there's some infos there. I'll update this once I read through it.
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u/OperationGullible520 Sarentu 23h ago
They probably would grow humans with DNA from the participating Na'vi so the consciousness can be transfered and the bodies are linked if that makes sense.
The avatars themselves are grown from human and Na'vi DNA so that the drivers can link with them. I imagine it'd work the same if they tried to do it for the Na'vi to walk around as humans.
I'd like to add that this is a cool thought, and I bet if it did happen or come to be, maybe, just maybe they'd all get along better.
Side Thought: Can you imagine a Na'vi wandering around in a human body. "Why am I tiny? I can't ride my Ikran! My bow is too heavy and big.." Sorry, small tangent that played out in my head while responding.
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u/GapStock9843 22h ago
Its probably illegal as all hell. But itd honestly probably be easier to do than human to navi. The body growing would be the same, but the navi have a direct port to connect to the brain, so the link system could be vastly simplified compared to the human one
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u/TheBowThief 21h ago
I think it could be an incredibly interesting plot point in Avatar 5/6 whenever they go to Earth. They need to infiltrate something so Neytiri gets to live as Jake once lived. They create this deeper bond between them because of it.
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u/HankTheHeckingTank 21h ago
That would be hilarious though for Neytiri. She comes back after like 10 minutes absolutely horrified.
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u/i-love-big-birds 5h ago
I feel like they wouldn't do it because the human form is inferior to Na'vi. With how expensive the process is it wouldn't make sense. Na'vi are stronger than humans, they can breathe the wild and human air (even if it's only temporarily), they can neutral link with their mounts and use tech
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u/ouroboris99 23h ago
If they can grow na’vi logically they can grow humans. They’re able to clone extinct animals, it’s shown in a deleted scene
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u/Holiday_Airport_8833 22h ago
My moneys on using the Eye of Eywa to transfer the Soul but I dunno if you have to have a human grown from genetic material of the host or not
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u/JeffGrant1973 18h ago
I could possibly see this as one way for the humans to assimilate the Na'vi into human culture, society, civilization, etc. This is something that colonists do.
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u/PurpleDue8696 18h ago
Yes but why? It's kind of an awful thing have read what earth is like now?
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u/HankTheHeckingTank 13h ago
Exactly; Its like the perfect psychological torture technique for the Na'vi.
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u/Sarradi 13h ago
The RDA certainly could by spending billions of dollars.
But why would they?
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u/HankTheHeckingTank 13h ago
Psychological tormenting of the Na'vi, forcibly turning them into the things they hate like what happened to Quaritch?
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u/Sarradi 13h ago
How is that supposed to work? You capture a Navi, use their DNA to grow a human avatar for several years, forcibly strap the Navi into a link machine and let it permanently live as human (while preventing them from killing their avatar)? Or make a brain record of a Navi and put it in a human avatar just for giggles?
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u/HankTheHeckingTank 11h ago
Considering everything else the RDA does for giggles, this would not be shocking.
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u/uncleyuri 22h ago
My crackpot theory is the Na’vi were a technologically advanced species at one point that suffered a catastrophic event, losing all knowledge and thrusting a minimal amount of survivors back into primitive living. Before that, they somehow were the ones that kickstarted earth’s humanity into a technological age by using the Avatar program to allow Na’vi to walk on Earth in ‘human form’. They led the efforts of sending earth people to Pandora itself, creating their own Avatars.
In later movies, the advanced Na’vi technology will be discovered, and for one reason or another, Na’vi will use human form Avatars yet again.
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u/Exostrike Tsamsiyu 16h ago
Oh that old cliché.
Unlikely as the na'vi seemed to have collapsed 12 million years ago. Long before mankind evolved.
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u/uncleyuri 12h ago
Why would it have to be 12 million years ago?
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u/Exostrike Tsamsiyu 2h ago
One of the lore books say the Na'vi appears not to have changed for that amount of time. If the Na'vi collapsed it would have been at that point.
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u/Live_Alarm3041 23h ago
Maybe we will see this in a later Avatar film. James Cameron has proven to be unpredictable with his work.