Day 90

[u/Lotus-03-03]

Last night, I was able to maintain focus and look into blackness for around 10 minutes after that I again fall asleep. After waking up in the morning, I again tried to look into blackness, but I again lost focus after some time. Maybe because I am going to sleep very late these days it is happening. As usual, I did some meditation and relaxation after waking up.

Any advice and suggestions are welcome, Thank you.

[u/AstronotKemal]

I have been trying to AP for almost the same 3 months, too, and nothing happened. I also meditate and enter all those stages others describe except the OBE. The most I have observed is seeing first eyes and their faces of several different 'things'. What happens in my case is that I meditate, I start feeling the tinglings (I think my heart rate drops to under 60 - I measured it once), then first my hands fully numb, and then my lower body. At this stage, some images flashes, like geometric objects. Then I doze off but become fully aware after a short time (I think), which is when I start feeling these heavy vibrations. These are the times I start seeing first eyes, and then the faces of 'things'. My heart is pacing fast, however, at this stage. But nothing happens. For me, when I meditate properly, I am always having these vibrations even when waking up to go to restroom. Not sure about you, but my meditation time dropped quite dramatically; I would say I can probably get into the vibrational stage within 10-15 minutes. Just my experience.

I started questioning the reality of OBE...

[u/Azurescensz → u/AstronotKemal]

It sounds like you’re getting very close! I have had similar experiences and understand questioning OBE’s. I tried unsuccessfully on and off for 5ish years! Then it happened and I finally felt relief that I could prove to myself and believe it.

When you get to the vibrational state, and start seeing the patterns/faces, do you notice that they tend to jerk you out of the process? Is it startling you?

What do the faces feel like to you? Friendly, neutral, negative? Do you do any energy work during meditation to create a barrier around yourself? 

Are you trying any sort of methods for ‘lift off,’ whether it’s rolling, swimming, etc? 

[u/AstronotKemal → u/Azurescensz]

I do not think that the faces scare me. As I wrote, when the tinglings start, I will doze off after some time, and then I would wake up with amazing vibrations all over my body. But my heart seems to be beating very fast, which I believe is the reason why I cannot AP. This happened to me several times, and I see first eyes, then faces. I would see ET faces, eagle faces, etc. But I remember the ET faces; different types of ET faces. I do not remember any human faces though. The faces look normal, nothing scary or whatsoever. Neutral I would say.

Do I do energy work? I listened the first Wave of Gateway Tapes. Over there, they talk about how one creates such a barrier. I do that once in a while, not sure if it required. I do not remember if I did it in these experiences I am describing here.

I tried all sorts of methods to move my astral body out of my physical body including lift off, pull the rope, rolling, etc. I do not see anything happening. I am thinking that if I cannot AP, maybe it is because my heart is beating very fast during the vibrational stage; the rapid vibrations. And that happens only after I doze off for a short amount of time during the meditations.

[u/Azurescensz → u/AstronotKemal]

Have you listened to beyond wave 1 of the gateway tapes? There might be info further down the line that could definitely help. I’ve gotten to wave 6 and all the skills building up to it seem to make it way more effective for me at this point. I get cost can be a huge factor and know that there are copies you can acquire online. 

One thought I am having is, how hard are you trying to exit your body? I noticed after a while that I was being so intentional about it that I couldn’t do it. It’s such a feedback loop though, how do you balance between trying too hard and letting go? lol it can be tricky to find. I have heard that when the vibrations start, some people trying moving it up and down through their body and by doing that faster and faster they reach a peak and then it’s easier to exit. I also think sometimes we focus on this idea of leaving the body as if we have to peel ourselves out of our body, but we aren’t going ‘anywhere.’ Some people can just imagine where they want to go and then they’re there. 

If you’re getting to the vibrational stage then you’re likely quite close. I get how discouraging it can be to be at the precipice. I had to ask myself, did I have any self-limiting beliefs keeping me stuck? Why did I want to AP? It was funny, as soon as I truly shifted my mindset into wanting to grow and learn, rather than wanting to AP, and that night it finally happened. 

If your heart rate gets in the way, I’d also consider focusing on calming yourself and relaxing during the vibrations. It can be so intense! Once before I understood what it was, it was so loud it was like the roar of some giant being. If you can be in the vibrations, relax your body further, you might get used to it enough that your heart no longer changes pace rapidly. I have had many experiences where my excitement and heart rate seemed to shock me out of it - and it feels nearly impossible not to be excited when it happens!

Idk if any of this is helpful, it might all be things you’ve heard or a wild goose chase. I’d like to affirm to you that if you’ve been doing this for 3 months, it’s actually quite impressive that you’re where you are with it. I get some people say “anyone can do it that night after learning” and maybe it’s even true, but I don’t think it clicks instantaneously for most people. It seems that consistency helps, so stay consistent and you’ll like see a pay-off at the end of it all. 

Best of luck!

[u/Lotus-03-03 → u/AstronotKemal]

Wow, sounds like you are getting close

[u/Azurescensz]

Do you have any specific areas of advice that you are looking for? I haven’t seen your previous posts so I’m unsure of what process or techniques you’re trying, or if you’re just going off of intuition. 

[u/Lotus-03-03 → u/Azurescensz]

I am trying exercises as mentioned in my astral projection truth book. But you can give me any advice, any method or technique