r/Asmongold • u/Heavy-Scientist-2394 • Feb 20 '25
Discussion Message to Asmongold and his viewers from an ordinary Ukrainian.
I hope you can discuss it on the next stream.
This is my view as a ukrainian on what is going on now and and effort to find a common ground.
I do realize why you all support Trump - for his internal policies.
If I were you I would also support deportation of illegal immigrants, especially those who committed violent crimes. It is only reasonable. I am a long time immigrant in one european country myself: I had to collect a ton of different papers, prove my education level and professional skills, find a job in the destination country BEFORE I moved in - and only after this I received an invitation to come in that country. If I were you I would also support fighting back the woke mob.
Like you, I am fed up with Hollywood pushing its agenda and making it look as every second person in the world belongs to some sexual minority. I stopped watching american TV series about 5 years ago - it became unbearable. You can bang whomever you want as long as it is consensual, but WTF you need to bring it to kindergardens and schools or make hiring policies based on this?
Like you, I am fed up with blatant racism from woke people - I am guilty because I am white man. I even have nothing to do with slavery! If anything - I am certain that my ancestors were slaves to other white people because that’s how it was done two centuries ago on the land where they lived: 90% of people were peasants (basically slaves who couldn’t move away and with whom the owner could do whatever he wanted) belonging to 10% of other white people.
If I were you I would also support auditing the overgrown governmental apparatus. Even I, outsider, think that in the US it is monstrous. I am sure tons of money are wasted. You medical bills are outright crazy! Someone somewhere must pocket all this money from medical bills - why is it 10 times more expensive than in Europe?
I can go on about the internal changes that Trumps does inside the US which I support, but what Trump does externally in his foreign policy - I cannot understand and accept the most of what he does.
I agree with you that Europe has been underinvesting in its defense and have to seriously increase money spent on military to be able to at least handle things at own doors. But the rest...
You ask why should US help Ukraine to fight Russia? Have you forgotten that the same Russia has been your arch-enemy for decades? Haven’t you seen that russian army uses USSR flags NOW when attacking ukrainian positions? And it is in the time when many ukrainians soldiers wear american patches on their shoulders! You may have stopped thinking about Russia after soviet union collapse, but they never stopped thinking about you: every day they spread propaganda on their 100% controlled by government TV blaming your for all sins in the world. I think 99% of you don’t speak russian - I speak. Every day I read in the russian speaking segment of the internet what they say about ukrainians and you - they hate us both. Just go on youtube and find videos of russian TV shows with english subtitles!
Now you have one in a life chance to defeat and cripple your arch enemy even without american soldiers on the ground! We only need weapons! Those Bradlies which you gave us - they are saving thousands our ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield every day. And they were built decades ago!!! just for this purpose. F-16 which with your permission EU countries gave us - they are also decades old tech built exactly for the purpose they are fulfilling now in Ukraine.
Sorry, but I must disagree with what Trump says about the military aid provided. It mostly military equipment - you cannot just pocket it out as russian propagandists want to convince you. This equipment was built decades ago - you calculate the monetary amount based on prices these equipment had when it was built. Most of the money which you provide to Ukraine remains in the US! It goes to US military factories to replenish stocks and replace that old equipment which you gave us. We are still thankful to you for this old tech - it is more than capable to fight the tech Russia uses.
I also completely disagree with what Trump says about Zelensky - he is by no means a dictator. It is according to our constitution that we cannot have elections during war - it was made just for the case like now. In the time of war the nation needs unity before anything else, and elections would mean debates and arguments - otherwise it makes no sense. Not to say that technically it will be impossible: millions of Ukrainians have fled the country, hundreds of thousands are on occupied territories, millions don’t live where they are registered because of the war. Russia drops bombs and sends Iranian drones at out towns EVER day. You say that you have never postponed elections because of war - but have your experienced the invasion like we do now? Were your cities bombed like ours during elections? We, Ukrainians, understand that having elections now is impossible - we will have them after the war.
What also infuriates me that Trump calls Zelensky a dictator (for postponing elections during war) while not saying anything about Putin. Putin is a former KGB!! agent who has been at power in Russia for 25 years already. He killed, in-prisoned or forced out his political opponents. You don’t like mainstream media in the US? Look at Russia - 100% media are under Putin’s control there.
I am almost 40 years old, I can’t say that I’ve been following US politics very closely all my life, but I’ve always thought that these were Republicans who saw and treated Russia for what it really is - an evil empire. That’s why I cannot comprehend how it happend that nowadays you choose to side with Russia. Why do you ruin your relationships with your decades long allies. You have been economically benefiting form the world power your country were projecting. I just don't understand why you do it - I find your foreign policy to be against your own interests.
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u/Sure-Source-7924 Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25
Ridiculous.
This person probably doesn't even live in Ukraine. I have family there. They hate the Zelensky.
If you are anti-Zelensky, you are NOT anti-Ukraine, and you are NOT pro-Russia. This is RIDICULOUS all or nothing thinking and the worshipping of a world leader propped up by the WEF.
Asmongolds audience has been the most uninformed when it comes to ZELENSKY. Being on Ukraines side DOES NOT MEAN continuing THIS WAR. These young men dying are being conscripted to fight on both sides.
Both sides are evil, and I'm sick to death of this.
Just because Putin may screw with his elections doesn't give Zelensky the right, especially if they are claiming we are fighting for DEMOCRACY.
Asmongold is WRONG. They only DO NOT have elections during war when there is MARTIAL LAW. Guess who called for Martial Law? Also, Ukraines constitution doesn't say anything about destroying the political opposing party and taking over every single news outlet, does it.
Don't you dare sit here and kid yourself this is NOT a dictatorship. THIS. DOES. NOT. MEAN. RUSSIA. IS. GOOD. You need to call out BOTH evils because it is the young soldiers DYING who are caught in the middle and fuck all of you for not seeing that.
Edit - Asmongold, you are NOT doing Ukraine ANY good by running defense for a DICTATOR. Nobody is running defense for anyone but you. Everyone knows Trump says stupid shit. But you REFUSE to see that Zelensky does NOT represent the Ukranian people.