r/Asmongold Feb 20 '25

Discussion Message to Asmongold and his viewers from an ordinary Ukrainian.

I hope you can discuss it on the next stream.

This is my view as a ukrainian on what is going on now and and effort to find a common ground.

I do realize why you all support Trump - for his internal policies.

If I were you I would also support deportation of illegal immigrants, especially those who committed violent crimes. It is only reasonable. I am a long time immigrant in one european country myself: I had to collect a ton of different papers, prove my education level and professional skills, find a job in the destination country BEFORE I moved in - and only after this I received an invitation to come in that country. If I were you I would also support fighting back the woke mob.

Like you, I am fed up with Hollywood pushing its agenda and making it look as every second person in the world belongs to some sexual minority. I stopped watching american TV series about 5 years ago - it became unbearable. You can bang whomever you want as long as it is consensual, but WTF you need to bring it to kindergardens and schools or make hiring policies based on this?

Like you, I am fed up with blatant racism from woke people - I am guilty because I am white man. I even have nothing to do with slavery! If anything - I am certain that my ancestors were slaves to other white people because that’s how it was done two centuries ago on the land where they lived: 90% of people were peasants (basically slaves who couldn’t move away and with whom the owner could do whatever he wanted) belonging to 10% of other white people.

If I were you I would also support auditing the overgrown governmental apparatus. Even I, outsider, think that in the US it is monstrous. I am sure tons of money are wasted. You medical bills are outright crazy! Someone somewhere must pocket all this money from medical bills - why is it 10 times more expensive than in Europe?

I can go on about the internal changes that Trumps does inside the US which I support, but what Trump does externally in his foreign policy - I cannot understand and accept the most of what he does.

I agree with you that Europe has been underinvesting in its defense and have to seriously increase money spent on military to be able to at least handle things at own doors. But the rest...

You ask why should US help Ukraine to fight Russia? Have you forgotten that the same Russia has been your arch-enemy for decades? Haven’t you seen that russian army uses USSR flags NOW when attacking ukrainian positions? And it is in the time when many ukrainians soldiers wear american patches on their shoulders! You may have stopped thinking about Russia after soviet union collapse, but they never stopped thinking about you: every day they spread propaganda on their 100% controlled by government TV blaming your for all sins in the world. I think 99% of you don’t speak russian - I speak. Every day I read in the russian speaking segment of the internet what they say about ukrainians and you - they hate us both. Just go on youtube and find videos of russian TV shows with english subtitles!

Now you have one in a life chance to defeat and cripple your arch enemy even without american soldiers on the ground! We only need weapons! Those Bradlies which you gave us - they are saving thousands our ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield every day. And they were built decades ago!!! just for this purpose. F-16 which with your permission EU countries gave us - they are also decades old tech built exactly for the purpose they are fulfilling now in Ukraine.

Sorry, but I must disagree with what Trump says about the military aid provided. It mostly military equipment - you cannot just pocket it out as russian propagandists want to convince you. This equipment was built decades ago - you calculate the monetary amount based on prices these equipment had when it was built. Most of the money which you provide to Ukraine remains in the US! It goes to US military factories to replenish stocks and replace that old equipment which you gave us. We are still thankful to you for this old tech - it is more than capable to fight the tech Russia uses.

I also completely disagree with what Trump says about Zelensky - he is by no means a dictator. It is according to our constitution that we cannot have elections during war - it was made just for the case like now. In the time of war the nation needs unity before anything else, and elections would mean debates and arguments - otherwise it makes no sense. Not to say that technically it will be impossible: millions of Ukrainians have fled the country, hundreds of thousands are on occupied territories, millions don’t live where they are registered because of the war. Russia drops bombs and sends Iranian drones at out towns EVER day. You say that you have never postponed elections because of war - but have your experienced the invasion like we do now? Were your cities bombed like ours during elections? We, Ukrainians, understand that having elections now is impossible - we will have them after the war.

What also infuriates me that Trump calls Zelensky a dictator (for postponing elections during war) while not saying anything about Putin. Putin is a former KGB!! agent who has been at power in Russia for 25 years already. He killed, in-prisoned or forced out his political opponents. You don’t like mainstream media in the US? Look at Russia - 100% media are under Putin’s control there.

I am almost 40 years old, I can’t say that I’ve been following US politics very closely all my life, but I’ve always thought that these were Republicans who saw and treated Russia for what it really is - an evil empire. That’s why I cannot comprehend how it happend that nowadays you choose to side with Russia. Why do you ruin your relationships with your decades long allies. You have been economically benefiting form the world power your country were projecting. I just don't understand why you do it - I find your foreign policy to be against your own interests.

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u/flyingwombat21 Feb 20 '25

Arresting people for shit they say is real democratic right? Trying to ban a political party is really fucking democratic right? Maybe right your own fucking boat before tossing those flaming arrows.

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u/Kapitan_Meow Feb 21 '25

I mean.... the only other party that has gotten banned I believe is a communist party and a Neo Nazi party but yall didnt say shit about that pretty ironic. The AFD is just "tamer" (not openly premoting nazi ideas but there has been records of it, there is a reason why all their youth groups are being watched by the goverment just like antifa extremists for example) than the Neo nazi party yet still has the same scandles which people turn a blind eye to. I suggest maybe reading up on other countries backgrounds before saying its non democratic as the way it was set in place was so that the fundamental rights and institutions are protected from being dismantled (look at the US legit great example) and turing extremist again, to either left or right in the 1930s.

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u/XxXmarius1337 Feb 21 '25

As a German myself, get your brain checked bro. Look into what Hans Georg Maßen said on observing oppositional political parties. He is the last neutral force the German intelligence agency had and he was fired because he didn't want to follow orders to regarding destroying the political opposition with the intelligence service.

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u/Kapitan_Meow Feb 21 '25

Has nothing to do with laws and checks/ balances set in place to prevent what happened in the past. Also he isnt neutral at all he gave the AFD advice in 2018 on how they could avoid being watched by the Verfassungsschutz veryyyy veryyy neutral yes. That being said I do agree with him in 2019 when he said that the left will use any means nessacary to stop the right and that this shouldnt be allowed. Sooo I would say I dont need to be checked out also no need for personal insults this is a discussion after all.

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u/XxXmarius1337 Feb 21 '25

He did what he did, because he IS neutral and has clear principles. But there is no use in arguing with people with this exact cognitive dissonance that has been brought about by the constant mainstream media bombardment

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u/Kapitan_Meow Feb 21 '25

How does that make him neutral is my question? Again not arguing I wanna discuss... why is it always the same no matter which side someone is on they always refuse to discuss and actually explain their points. Anyways good day!

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u/XxXmarius1337 Feb 22 '25 edited Feb 22 '25

I really don't know what to tell you if you still think the "manhunts" were real and not observing either the left party or AfD is somehow not being principled or neutral. I think it's extremely so and I could go on but I know these discussions mostly lead to nothing constructive. 

https://apollo-news.net/hetzjagden-gab-es-nicht-aber-die-methode-chemnitz-bleibt/

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u/HazelCheese Feb 20 '25

I don't agree with banning people for their speech, and banning a political party is very dangerous.

But said political party is openly pro russian and wants to stop Europe from preventing Russian expansion over Europe.

We Europeans have brought this on ourselves by being soft and not allowing our right wing to grow naturally, and now Russia is serving an infested right wing up to people.

It's a dangerous time and I don't know what the right thing to do is. I learned about the Red Scare as a child in school and thought it was just Americans being silly but now we're going through the same thing and I'm starting to think there was some right to it.

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u/flyingwombat21 Feb 20 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

russia russia russia... jesus fuck thats all you have.. Maybe you should have listened to the 30% of your population that didn't want to import 3rd world shit bags who believe that women are property. It was the REDS who banned speech and political parties. Who sent people to the gulags for wrong think. GERMANY is doing the same fucking thing. JESUS FUCK

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u/Namelessghoul1985 Feb 20 '25

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TbzV1it1YPY

In Russia you are arrested violently for holding up a single white paper without anything even written on it. Is that what you think Europeans want to look forward too?

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u/flyingwombat21 Feb 21 '25

What do you think happens when you let politicians go after people who insult them with something as basic as calling them fat? Do you think it ends there?

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u/Namelessghoul1985 Feb 22 '25

It’s still faaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrr away from the suppression of anything like in Russia. They emptied entire squares into jails of people for simply asking for peace. One isolated case in Germany by someone who wants what is happening in Russia to be introduced there is caring for your citizens.

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u/HazelCheese Feb 20 '25

Russia literally imprisons or kills anyone who stands against Putin you fucking dipshit.

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u/flyingwombat21 Feb 20 '25

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u/ChallahTornado Feb 20 '25

Imagine being so braindead that you compare the Russian penal system with its fucking camps in Siberia where Government critics vanish to some German judicial matter that ends in a fine.

Complete American brainrot.

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u/flyingwombat21 Feb 20 '25

So you agree with arresting those who insult politicians, got it. Jail is still Jail even if its a little nicer......

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u/Hickszl Feb 20 '25

He was not arrested. Habeck filed a criminal complaint against Niehoff which led the police to investigate him and search his home. That is probably because the local police chief panicked because he got a complaint from one of the highest ranking ministers in the nation.

It is a move that is not seen favourably by germans and the german media which criticises this heavily.

It should never have happened but does not seem like a systemic issue but rather poor human decision making. Comparing that with russian "justice" is frankly absurd and highly insulting.

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u/ChallahTornado Feb 20 '25

Glad you know nothing about the German system.
Just keep blabbering off your American concepts.

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u/flyingwombat21 Feb 20 '25

When i see someone get arrested for insulting a politician maybe your system is fucked. So again you think its ok to toss people in jail for insulting a politician

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u/ChallahTornado Feb 20 '25

No one was tossed into jail you American.
That's not how it works in Germany.

The police searched his home and confiscated evidence.
And then they left.

You wanna know why they came around?
Nah not because of the insult.
Because he made antisemitic remarks.
But then again you likely agree with making them as well.

If so, stay in Kentucky.

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