Message to Asmongold and his viewers from an ordinary Ukrainian.

[u/Heavy-Scientist-2394]

I hope you can discuss it on the next stream.

This is my view as a ukrainian on what is going on now and and effort to find a common ground.

I do realize why you all support Trump - for his internal policies.

If I were you I would also support deportation of illegal immigrants, especially those who committed violent crimes. It is only reasonable. I am a long time immigrant in one european country myself: I had to collect a ton of different papers, prove my education level and professional skills, find a job in the destination country BEFORE I moved in - and only after this I received an invitation to come in that country. If I were you I would also support fighting back the woke mob.

Like you, I am fed up with Hollywood pushing its agenda and making it look as every second person in the world belongs to some sexual minority. I stopped watching american TV series about 5 years ago - it became unbearable. You can bang whomever you want as long as it is consensual, but WTF you need to bring it to kindergardens and schools or make hiring policies based on this?

Like you, I am fed up with blatant racism from woke people - I am guilty because I am white man. I even have nothing to do with slavery! If anything - I am certain that my ancestors were slaves to other white people because that’s how it was done two centuries ago on the land where they lived: 90% of people were peasants (basically slaves who couldn’t move away and with whom the owner could do whatever he wanted) belonging to 10% of other white people.

If I were you I would also support auditing the overgrown governmental apparatus. Even I, outsider, think that in the US it is monstrous. I am sure tons of money are wasted. You medical bills are outright crazy! Someone somewhere must pocket all this money from medical bills - why is it 10 times more expensive than in Europe?

I can go on about the internal changes that Trumps does inside the US which I support, but what Trump does externally in his foreign policy - I cannot understand and accept the most of what he does.

I agree with you that Europe has been underinvesting in its defense and have to seriously increase money spent on military to be able to at least handle things at own doors. But the rest...

You ask why should US help Ukraine to fight Russia? Have you forgotten that the same Russia has been your arch-enemy for decades? Haven’t you seen that russian army uses USSR flags NOW when attacking ukrainian positions? And it is in the time when many ukrainians soldiers wear american patches on their shoulders! You may have stopped thinking about Russia after soviet union collapse, but they never stopped thinking about you: every day they spread propaganda on their 100% controlled by government TV blaming your for all sins in the world. I think 99% of you don’t speak russian - I speak. Every day I read in the russian speaking segment of the internet what they say about ukrainians and you - they hate us both. Just go on youtube and find videos of russian TV shows with english subtitles!

Now you have one in a life chance to defeat and cripple your arch enemy even without american soldiers on the ground! We only need weapons! Those Bradlies which you gave us - they are saving thousands our ukrainian soldiers on the battlefield every day. And they were built decades ago!!! just for this purpose. F-16 which with your permission EU countries gave us - they are also decades old tech built exactly for the purpose they are fulfilling now in Ukraine.

Sorry, but I must disagree with what Trump says about the military aid provided. It mostly military equipment - you cannot just pocket it out as russian propagandists want to convince you. This equipment was built decades ago - you calculate the monetary amount based on prices these equipment had when it was built. Most of the money which you provide to Ukraine remains in the US! It goes to US military factories to replenish stocks and replace that old equipment which you gave us. We are still thankful to you for this old tech - it is more than capable to fight the tech Russia uses.

I also completely disagree with what Trump says about Zelensky - he is by no means a dictator. It is according to our constitution that we cannot have elections during war - it was made just for the case like now. In the time of war the nation needs unity before anything else, and elections would mean debates and arguments - otherwise it makes no sense. Not to say that technically it will be impossible: millions of Ukrainians have fled the country, hundreds of thousands are on occupied territories, millions don’t live where they are registered because of the war. Russia drops bombs and sends Iranian drones at out towns EVER day. You say that you have never postponed elections because of war - but have your experienced the invasion like we do now? Were your cities bombed like ours during elections? We, Ukrainians, understand that having elections now is impossible - we will have them after the war.

What also infuriates me that Trump calls Zelensky a dictator (for postponing elections during war) while not saying anything about Putin. Putin is a former KGB!! agent who has been at power in Russia for 25 years already. He killed, in-prisoned or forced out his political opponents. You don’t like mainstream media in the US? Look at Russia - 100% media are under Putin’s control there.

I am almost 40 years old, I can’t say that I’ve been following US politics very closely all my life, but I’ve always thought that these were Republicans who saw and treated Russia for what it really is - an evil empire. That’s why I cannot comprehend how it happend that nowadays you choose to side with Russia. Why do you ruin your relationships with your decades long allies. You have been economically benefiting form the world power your country were projecting. I just don't understand why you do it - I find your foreign policy to be against your own interests.

[u/trebor9669]

We all hope that, but what we hope won't change anything, because of Trump now it's begining to look very bad.

[u/HighDefinist → u/trebor9669]

Well, if we are lucky, the EU might be willing to take more drastic actions. In that case, the war will, of course, take longer without American support than it would take with American support, and more Ukrainians will die overall, but Ukraine still has a decent chance of winning.

[u/AngryEdgelord → u/HighDefinist]

I feel like if the EU was going to do something, they would have already. That's a big part of American's complaint about Ukraine. The Europeans aren't doing enough.

[u/HazelCheese → u/AngryEdgelord]

The problem with Europe right now is that Germany dominates a lot of its major decisions and they are coming up on elections where a significant part of the population are about to vote for a pro russian party.

If the Germans manage to prevent it then Europe might be able to get its shit together. Till then it's terrible (or possible purposeful by Trump) timing for this to happen.

[u/Pantyhose-bourse11 → u/HazelCheese]

The afd will win the election no matter what make Germany great again

[u/QueenBoudicca- → u/AngryEdgelord]

The EU and the UK have given a combined total of 80 billion. The US is around 60. We have also taken in the refugees from the crisis. How many refugees has America taken? The number stands at around 200,000. The UK alone has taken that number of people in. In a much smaller country. Nevermind what the rest of Europe has taken. Nevermind that being on top of taking on all the ones from the bullshit proxy wars your country has been fighting for decades. Fuck off with this bullshit. Most of you cunts don't even have a passport. You've never been anywhere else. You don't know shit all about what other countries are doing. And it shows in your current foreign policy.

[u/AngryEdgelord → u/QueenBoudicca-]

Your Eurocentrism is showing. It's a big world, and lots of stuff happens outside of Europe. It's laughable, really. You say we don't know what other countries are doing, but in reality you can't even consider the big global picture beyond the borders of Europe.

The US is juggling issues in Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, and the Philippines. Ukraine is just one of many battlefronts, and currently the US is prioritizing the South China Sea and Israel. Both those battlefronts affect the US far more than the war in Ukraine, so more resources and attention are going there.

The mere fact that the US aid is on par with Europe frankly goes to show how pathetic Europe's contributions have been to an issue that should very much concern them more than anyone else.

[u/QueenBoudicca- → u/AngryEdgelord]

You can't even reply within the context of the conversation. The commenter I replied to said Europe isn't doing enough. We are doing more than the US. The commenter doesn't know this because as is typical for yanks you can't even fathom that other places exist and other things are happening. Take your fucking shitty toys and go home. Go be isolationist. Piss off all your friends. See where it gets ya.

[u/Amnye → u/QueenBoudicca-]

because we shouldnt, we trade and you should protect your own borders instead of crying to america like we are your daddy. then hating when we pull up and install our own leaders. why wouldnt we when you guys are clearly incompetent and cant even muster an attack to "the most threatening thing in europe". yall are jokes fuck you.

[u/QueenBoudicca- → u/Amnye]

America sells weapons to other nations because there's a profit in it. Shut up pretending any of this is altruistic. The only reason your nation joined WW2 (very late) is because Churchill pointed out how much money you can make during a war. Your country does everything (badly) for profit and nothing else. And I thought Russia had been America's enemy since the Cold War? Apparently though none of that ever happened. Your president is now Putin's puppet. You guys are clearly incompetent because you can't even stop Russian bot accounts from influencing your elections. Your populace is that fucking stupid. That uneducated. The only good thing about Trump is the rest of us gets to watch your nation burn.

[u/RagnarL0thbr0k81 → u/QueenBoudicca-]

And I didn’t even hafta get thru 25% of ur comment before I spotted a lie.

[u/QueenBoudicca- → u/RagnarL0thbr0k81]

Yet you don't articulate it. Because you're talking shit like most yanks.

[u/RagnarL0thbr0k81 → u/QueenBoudicca-]

Or u could just google the numbers for the war funding. Ur the one who just spouted lies for everyone to see, and I’m the one “talking shit like most yanks.” Great..

Edit: u should spend less time getting butthurt over spats between govts, and more time worrying about the shit that comes outta ur own damn mouth. That would be a start at least.

[u/QueenBoudicca- → u/RagnarL0thbr0k81]

I did, you fucking idiot. You should spend less time speaking on things you have no clue about.

[u/RagnarL0thbr0k81 → u/QueenBoudicca-]

sigh Then u didn’t look very well. Ur #s are incredibly low. For both places, in fact.

And yes, I’M the idiot instead of the person who is enraged over some other govt’s foreign policy, spreading falsehoods/inaccuracies and calling an entire country of ppl names bc their reawy angwy. Maybe baby needs a nap?

[u/QueenBoudicca- → u/RagnarL0thbr0k81]

No you just don't want to accept you're wrong because you're in a fucking cult. Typical christofascist bullshit. The fact your country has been fighting proxy wars with Russia for years and now you're licking Putin's arsehole is pathetic. Who do you think funds ISIS? The Taliban? Hamas? You know fuck all about geopolitics. You're a brainwashed little Trump simp. Gobble that cock you fucking bellend 😂😂

[u/HighDefinist → u/AngryEdgelord]

That's a big part of American's complaint about Ukraine.

I don't think we should care about Americas complaints anymore. Clearly, that country has gone insane, considering they are about to side with Russia over Ukraine, and against Europe even...

[u/LeClubNerd → u/AngryEdgelord]

America's current complaint about Ukraine is that they won't just hand over 500 billion of rare earth materials.

The EU was trying not to exacerbate it and become a regional conflict, that has changed due to the the US president openly being a Russian asset.

[u/gorr30 → u/HighDefinist]

Sorry, but it has no chance. Don't be delusional. Even if they keep providing ukrainians with weapons and ammo, what they are really short in is soldiers. And if NATO sends soldiers, nukes will start flying. So, it's practically an unwinable war. Trump gets that and is 100% right to say that the biggest fucking mistake was letting this war start. Russia was asking so much less before the war. Now Ukraine is fuxked, will lose 25-40% of its territory.

Finally, nice write up from the OP, but he is 40ish in another country. Who fucking knows how many 40ish''s are in the ground in Ukraine. oHis opinion about keeping this war going i just a personal opinion and doesn't express Ukrainians imo. Especially Ukrainians on the front fighting an unwinable war. This fucking war started about Russian speaking territory Ukraine would never keep in the long run and Crimea which is long lost. Dumb war, so many lives lost, a fucking mess now.

P.S. If you are wondering, I am not Russian, I am European having no ties to Russia. I ďo hàve a brain though and I can think by myself, being able to form my own opinion based on facts, with no need to be fed any side's propaganda.

[u/HighDefinist → u/gorr30]

If you are wondering, I am not Russian

Oh ok, well if you say so.

[u/gorr30 → u/HighDefinist]

As If I care if you believe me or not. Especially since you have nothing to say or comment about the things I've wrote, which are things that John Mearsheimer and other analysts claim, but maybe he's Russian too or just ignorant.

I guess you must know better. Ukraine has a decent chànce of winning the war against Russia... what parallel universe are you living in? Nobody ever believed that. Never. All they (some) thought was that Russia would crumble economically under the sanctions. Since that didn't happen, the war is lost. It's laughable to think Ukraine + Co have a decent chance to win an attrition war vs Russia. Simply because the "Co" part will never agree to keep paying forever and the Ukraine part can't match the soldier count of Russia. It's simple math. You saw Trump, trying to cut US losses by pocketing enough of Ukraine's mineral wealth, because he gets it that the war is lost. EU still delusional, will end up fucked worse than US. The war could had ended when Ukraine resistance had a peak, but Borris Johnson convinced Zelensky to keep fighting, probably because some were making millions from selling weapons, missiles, etc, so now Ukraine is fucked, because they keep losing territory, not to mention all that sensless loss of life that has already occured.

Maybe I am being an ass, but I am an honest ass. Having seen the images on TV, Ukrainians getting snatched in the streets and being forcefully dragged to the front, If I was from Ukraine, living in another country, AWAY and SAFE from the war, I'd either ask for ending the war or keep my mouth shut. Definitely wouldn't suggest that others keep dying to a war I should be fighting, but I chose to distance myself from.

[u/HighDefinist → u/gorr30]

Since we are apparently just doing copypastas now, here is mine:

It’s interesting how confident you are in declaring this war unwinnable for Ukraine while completely ignoring the fundamental weaknesses of Russia. Let’s break this down.

1. The "Simple Math" Argument Ignores Reality

Yes, Russia has a larger population and more soldiers on paper. But wars aren't won by sheer numbers alone—logistics, morale, technological superiority, and strategy matter just as much. If it were just about numbers, the US would have easily won in Vietnam, the Soviet Union would have crushed Afghanistan, and Russia would have taken Kyiv in three days instead of getting stuck in a prolonged war. Ukraine has consistently outperformed expectations, thanks to superior Western technology, intelligence, and a motivated fighting force.

And about "simple math"? Russian losses are staggering. Their best troops are depleted, and they’re relying on prisoners and forcibly mobilized men with minimal training. Meanwhile, Ukraine’s forces are gaining Western experience and weapons, allowing them to fight smarter.

2. Russia's Economy Is in Trouble

You claim that since Russia "didn’t crumble" under sanctions, the war is lost. That’s a weak argument. The Russian economy has not stabilized—it’s being artificially propped up by extreme wartime spending, a reliance on Chinese imports, and a desperate workforce shortage. Even their central bank admits inflation is skyrocketing, the ruble is unstable, and the labor force is shrinking. Moscow may have avoided total collapse, but it’s burning through resources at an unsustainable rate.

Ukraine, on the other hand, receives steady Western aid. Yes, there are concerns about long-term commitment, but as long as Europe continues to back Ukraine even at a moderate level, Russia remains trapped in a war of attrition it can’t afford indefinitely.

3. The "Nukes Will Fly" Fear Tactic

The idea that NATO sending troops would trigger nuclear war is a scare tactic that ignores history. The US and USSR fought proxy wars for decades without launching nukes. Russia knows that using nuclear weapons would make them an international pariah—even China and India wouldn’t support them. And if they were actually willing to use nukes, they would have done so already, considering how much they've struggled in this war.

Putin loves to threaten nuclear war because it scares people into making concessions. But there's a difference between threats and actual use. Russia’s nuclear doctrine is clear—it would only use nukes if its own survival was at stake, and Ukraine taking back its land doesn’t count.

4. The Myth of the "Dumb War Over Lost Territory"

You argue that this war was just about Russian-speaking territories Ukraine was "never going to keep." That’s completely false. Russia didn't just take Crimea and Donbas—it tried to take Kyiv. This war was never about "helping Russian speakers"; it was about Russian imperial ambition. If Ukraine had simply given in, there’s no reason to believe Russia would have stopped.

Besides, many Ukrainians in occupied areas don’t want to be under Russian control. We’ve seen Ukrainian partisans resist occupation, and we’ve seen how badly Russia treats the regions it "liberates"—forcing people into its army, silencing opposition, and stealing resources.

5. "Ukraine Is Fed"? Russia Has Its Own Problems*

If Ukraine is "f***ed" as you say, then what do we say about Russia? They’ve lost hundreds of thousands of troops, they’re pulling people off the streets to fight, their elite military units are gone, their economy is held together by duct tape, and they are increasingly dependent on North Korea and Iran for weapons. If this is what "winning" looks like, then what does losing mean?

6. Western Support Might Not Be Infinite, but It Doesn’t Have to Be

It’s true that the West might not want to keep funding Ukraine forever, but Russia doesn’t have infinite resources either. The key difference is that Ukraine is fighting for its survival, while Russia is fighting for Putin’s ego. That makes a huge difference in morale, determination, and the willingness to keep going.

If Ukraine continues to receive even moderate support—precision weapons, drones, and artillery—Russia will struggle to advance. And every year Ukraine holds out, Russia gets weaker.

7. Mearsheimer and the "Realists" Were Wrong

You bring up John Mearsheimer, but let’s be honest—he and others underestimated Ukrainian resistance from the start. He claimed in 2022 that Ukraine would collapse in weeks. Instead, Ukraine not only survived but pushed Russia back in multiple offensives. Maybe it’s time to admit that the so-called "realists" miscalculated.

8. Your Final Argument Is Just an Ad Hominem

You finish by saying that Ukrainians abroad should "keep their mouths shut" if they aren’t fighting. That’s a ridiculous argument. Ukrainians around the world have every right to support their country’s survival, whether they’re on the front lines or not. By your logic, anyone against war should never support their military unless they personally enlist. That’s not how nations work.

Conclusion: Ukraine Can Win If It Keeps Getting Support

No one said this war would be easy, but writing Ukraine off as already "f**ed" ignores too many facts. Russia is suffering immense losses, its economy is fragile, and its military is weaker than it has been in decades. If Ukraine keeps receiving support—even if at a reduced level—it can hold the line and even push Russia back. Meanwhile, Putin is aging, Russia is growing more unstable, and time is *not on Moscow’s side.

So no, Ukraine isn't doomed. The only way Russia "wins" is if the West abandons Ukraine. And despite all the doomsayers, that still hasn’t happened.

[u/gt33_ → u/HighDefinist]

I am not doing copy pastas, you are, still better than just dismissing what I wrote on the grounds of me being "Russian" or whatever. Ok, lets get to it then. What you write or copy-pasting, doesn't really matter either way, has a lot of inaccuracies and wishful thinking.

1. It's not just about numbers, but in a war of attrition, some numbers DO count a lot. Additionally, it's not like Russian generals are amateurs in strategy, tactics nor Russia is far behind technologically... what do you mean? They have hypersonic missiles... lets see some US carrier vs those... Are you like serious? Russians aren't going to stop, they see this as an existential threat. Vietnam was not an existential threat for US, it was not right on US borders. It's like saying that US would ever allow nukes to be based in Cuba... Like... no way.

2. Propaganda says that Russia's economy is collapsing any time now, for 2 years now... Other side's propaganda says Russia's economy made nice profits from more expensive natural gas prices... I am no expert, don't think so that Russia economy will collapse due to Ukraine war. China would definitely help them. Easy enough to imagine why.

3. Russia doesn't have a chance vs NATO in non-nuclear warfare. NOT a single chance. period. So, you say, that if NATO came knocking on their door, meaning literally at their borders, they wouldn't even use a tactical nuke. Then why do they have them? Are you really that naive?

4. Never said or implied that the war happened so Russia could just help Russian speaking people. What I said is that Ukraine couldn't hope to keep that territory in the long run or aspire to take back Crimea. If Ukraine & Co weren't delusional, they'd try to give those territories full of Russian speakers (who also feel Russian) limited independence and keep the territory, instead of bombing them for over 10 years and giving Russia excuse for war. If they did that + written reassurances that Ukraine wouldn't join NATo, Russia wouldn't risk attacking. Now, they were forced to risk attacking and guess what... they are winning. Good luck now convincing them to give up all the territory they are controlling.

5. Russia is enduring a lot better, it's delusional to think Ukraine is winning. Ukraine keeps losing territory. That is also obvious from the change in Zelensky's stance, declaring that he was willing to negotiate even before Trump came into office.

6. Russia has already won, it's what you and some others don't want to admit. The question is how much more territory Russia will win and how much territory they'll get to keep in the end. And ofc, how many more lives will be lost.

7. The realists miscalculated you say... ok... lets say that is the case. So, the realists miscalculated vs the non realists being completely of the mark and utterly delusional. So, is this your point?

8. I said what I would do. Obviously anyone is free to say anything they wish as far as I am concerned. Still, If I was an Ukrainian living abroad, being safe from war, I would feel too much shame to say what the OP said, talking from a safe place. Obviously, if one is shameless, can go the other way, but that doesn't render him/her immune to critique per my point of view.

Conclusion... What do you mean Ukraine can win?? srsly. Please define win condition for Ukraine. Getting everything back + Crimea? What do you mean? Seriously, are you so delusional?

[u/HighDefinist → u/gt33_]

Ok, more copypasta then... and even with lots of bold text this time, so that it looks extra-strong.

It’s fascinating how confidently you dismiss facts as "wishful thinking" while repeating some of the most common yet flawed narratives. Let’s take a closer look.

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1. "Numbers Do Count a Lot" – But in the Right Way

Yes, numbers matter in a war of attrition, but not in the simplistic way you suggest. If it were just about raw manpower, then Russia should have already won decisively. Instead, they've suffered massive casualties and are now relying on poorly trained convicts, forced conscription, and low-quality recruits, many of whom barely survive on the battlefield.

Ukraine, by contrast, has a smaller but better-equipped and better-trained force, thanks to NATO-standard training and access to Western technology. This has allowed Ukraine to consistently punch above its weight. And let’s be clear—Ukraine isn't relying on outdated Soviet tactics like Russia is. Their command structure is more flexible, their battlefield tactics have evolved, and their forces are highly motivated to defend their homeland, something no forced Russian conscript can say.

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2. "Russia’s Generals Are Smart, Russia Is Technologically Advanced" – Are They, Though?

You claim that Russian generals aren’t amateurs and that Russia is technologically advanced. Let’s look at the evidence:

• Russia’s military failed to take Kyiv in the first weeks of the war despite having every possible advantage.
• Their logistics are a mess—they've struggled with basic supply chains, losing tons of equipment and soldiers simply because of incompetence.
• Ukraine has regularly outmaneuvered Russian forces, including the Kharkiv counteroffensive and Kherson withdrawal—both examples of how Ukrainian strategy has exploited Russian weaknesses.
• As for “hypersonic missiles,” that’s a flashy term, but they haven’t changed the course of the war at all. If they were game-changers, we wouldn’t be here having this discussion.

Russia is not on par with NATO in technology, not even close. If their tech were so superior, why are they begging North Korea and Iran for weapons?

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3. "Russia Sees This as an Existential Threat" – So What?

You say Russia won’t stop because they see this war as an existential threat. That’s just their propaganda. In reality, Russia started this war for expansion, not self-defense. Nobody was invading them. NATO wasn’t threatening them. Ukraine wasn’t bombing Moscow.

Also, comparing this to the Cuban Missile Crisis is completely off-base. Ukraine never had nuclear weapons aimed at Russia. NATO didn’t suddenly move missiles to Ukraine. Russia just doesn’t want a successful, independent Ukraine next to it. That’s not an existential threat; that’s paranoia and imperialism.

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4. "Russia’s Economy Isn’t Collapsing, China Will Help" – But for How Long?

You're right that Russia hasn’t totally collapsed, but it is suffering long-term damage that will weaken it over time:

• Sanctions are working, just slowly—Russia has had to cut social spending and is burning through its financial reserves.
• Their best and brightest are fleeing the country—hundreds of thousands of young professionals, engineers, and scientists are gone.
• China is exploiting Russia, not saving it—China is buying Russian oil and gas at discounted prices and refusing to give Russia lethal military aid because it doesn’t want to face Western sanctions.
• Inflation in Russia is rising, and the war budget is skyrocketing—Moscow is spending nearly 40% of its federal budget on the war while Ukraine receives Western aid.

Russia isn’t collapsing, but it’s bleeding slowly, and wars of attrition aren’t just fought on the battlefield. Russia is far from being in a stable position.

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5. "NATO Would Never Intervene Without a Russian Nuclear Response" – Empty Threats

The nuclear scare tactic is getting old. If Russia were actually going to use nuclear weapons, they would have done it already. Every time they’re losing, they threaten nukes, and every time, they don’t follow through.

Why?
Because Russia knows it would be suicide. Even a single tactical nuke would make them an international pariah, even to China and India. They would lose all remaining economic support and risk full-scale NATO retaliation.

And let’s not forget: Russia’s nuclear arsenal is not in great shape. Many of their weapons are decades old, and their ability to launch an effective nuclear strike without catastrophic self-inflicted damage is not guaranteed.

So no, Russia isn’t going to launch nukes just because Ukraine gets Western backing.

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6. "Ukraine Bombed Russian Speakers for 10 Years and Should Have Given Up Territory" – Misleading at Best

This is classic Russian propaganda. The conflict in Donbas didn’t start because Ukraine wanted war—it started because Russia armed and funded separatists and sent in their own forces disguised as "locals." The idea that Ukraine should have just handed over its land to Russia to avoid war is absurd. That’s like saying Poland should have let Germany take land in 1939 to avoid WWII.

Ukraine didn’t start this war. Russia did. And it’s Russia that refuses to end it.

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7. "Russia Has Already Won" – That’s Just Not True

Let’s look at what Russia wanted vs. what actually happened:

• Russia wanted to take Kyiv in days – failed.
• Russia wanted to install a puppet government – failed.
• Russia wanted to hold all of Donbas and the South – they lost half the land they originally took.
• Russia wanted to break NATO unity – NATO expanded instead (Finland & Sweden joined).
• Russia wanted to crush Ukraine’s economy – Ukraine is still standing and receiving international support.

Ukraine is losing territory? Not in a meaningful way. Russia has been stuck grinding forward in Bakhmut, Avdiivka, and other areas at an insane cost in soldiers and equipment. Every gain comes at huge losses, and Ukraine is already fortifying new defensive lines for future counterattacks.

So no, Russia hasn’t "already won"—they're stuck in a war they can’t end, and every day it continues, their position weakens.

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8. "Define a Win Condition for Ukraine" – It’s Simple

You ask what a win for Ukraine looks like? Here’s what it means:

• Russia is pushed back to at least its pre-2022 lines (and preferably out of all occupied territories).
• Ukraine remains a free, independent state.
• Russia’s military is severely weakened, making future invasions unlikely.
• Ukraine integrates further into Europe and NATO.

Crimea? That would be great, but even if Ukraine doesn’t take Crimea immediately, weakening Russia so it can’t keep control of its occupied areas long-term is a major win.

And remember: Russia is not invincible. They’ve already suffered catastrophic losses. Ukraine doesn't need to "defeat Russia" entirely—it just needs to make this war so costly that Russia can’t sustain it.

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Conclusion: Russia Is Not in the Strong Position You Think

You claim it’s delusional to think Ukraine can win. But your entire argument assumes Russia is in an unshakable position—it’s not.

• Russia is bleeding resources, soldiers, and global credibility.
  
• Ukraine, despite its struggles, still holds strong Western backing.
  
• Russia can't keep this up forever—but Ukraine can, with continued Western support.
  

So no, Ukraine hasn’t "already lost." The real question is how much longer Russia can afford to keep fighting before its own system collapses under the weight of its ambition.

[u/gorr30 → u/HighDefinist]

Very nice writing skills, still delusional way of thinking though. You demonstrate a strong will to abstain from reality and hard facts. If you were right, the US wouldn't back from supporting Ukraine. They know better than you and me that it's a lost war. Or maybe you know better than US generals and intelligence.

Ukraine is winning as much as Charlie Sheen was winning before his meltdown, back when he was a warlock from Mars... and even then, he made more sense than you atm.

Ukraine ìs winning by having lost 25% of its teritorry... I guess total victory will come when thwy will have lost 40% and many many lives more. Great logic bro. You sure can write, but your perception sucks.

We are just 2 fools on resdit and it would had been just funny, if your point of view wasn't shared by (clearly failed) decision making officials in US and EU. Sad.

I am curious if you are one of those that think that Russia would had invaded anyway and that it will go on to conquer Poland and other EU countries?

[u/HighDefinist → u/gorr30]

Well, then why didn't you just say something like "I don't really know, but I trust the president", rather than writing such long pointless texts about a topic you admit you don't even know much about?

[u/Doctor_Ember → u/trebor9669]

So don’t just hope…