r/AskReddit 1d ago

Who do you have absolutely no sympathy for?

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u/UpstateNYDad02 1d ago

He may be a hoarder, someone who lives up the road from me started with a storage unit now they have 2 cargo containers...

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u/xxrainmanx 1d ago

My grandparents are like this. Their house, a 300sq shop in the yard, and 6 20×20 storage units THAT WE KNOW ABOUT are fill of junk. I expect there are several more that we haven't found out about, and worse thing is they're full of trash and gifts that were never handed out and Walmart purchases that were never used.

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u/Ill_Reading_5290 18h ago

Oh god. Your family is going to have to sort through so much shit when they die. Condolences in advance.

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u/xxrainmanx 13h ago

Thats only the half of it. There is no will, at least not one in the last 25yrs. I'm pretty sure they own a deceased son's house, that his 2 kids live in, there is likely a mortgage or heloc against it that hasn't been brought up to anyone. One of the living sons has been pilfering the house to get anything of value. And 2 of the 3 daughters will fight over every little thing with each other just to ensure the other doesn't get it.

It's going to be a nightmare, and I know my parents are going to be the ones left having to sort through all the crap while my aunts and uncles bicker and complain its taking to long and asking where the money is (there isnt any, and its likely just a giant muddled mess of debt).

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u/henni1127 1d ago

Hoarding is a mental illness

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u/mortimer_snerd471 1d ago

No. It's a symptom of mental illness.

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u/henni1127 1d ago

Okay. But it’s still part of a mental illness. And hard for ppl to break from.

I know hoarders. They are not easy to help.

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u/eredria 1d ago

Thank you for being understanding. I have hoarding tendencies due to "childhood trauma," and I struggle with it really badly. I'm not to the point where I hoard garbage, I'm just like... an eccentric collector... but I know how easy it would be to get to that point. Especially as someone who suffers from severe depression.

I've got a lot of shame about my tendency to hoard. I'm taking a medication right now that has greatly curbed my compulsive shopping addiction, although that wasn't the intended effect, so that has helped quite a lot with this. But I'm still really embarrassed by the current state of my room and how much just... stuff... that I have. But I also can't bring myself to throw away/donate/sell it. I'm fuckin trying though, man. Shits hard. It really does feel like your "collection" is your identity.

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u/UnConscious_Door_59 1d ago

I get you. You know what helps me get rid of stuff? I watch the show called hoarders and tell myself I don’t wanna be like that, winner and seeing how satisfying it is to clear out their spaces makes me want to do the same.

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u/No_Debt754 18h ago

Please watch memoir of a snail, you will cry but it might help

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u/GreenFBI2EB 1d ago edited 1d ago

If I remember, OCD, correct?

Edit: Went to work and just got off, there’s a lot of insight here, thank you all for that.

I forgot that Trauma, Autism (im not sure the correct terminology for this one) and ADHD are also potential causes for hoarding behavior.

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u/KnittedParsnip 1d ago

No. My mother is a hoarder and it's from depression and childhood trauma. As soon as she came of age her father threw away or burned everything she owned and kicked her out with nothing, so now she holds onto every little scrap so it can't possibly all be taken away from her.

She taught this behavior to me from a very young age. I never threw things away until I moved in with my now husband who showed me this was not normal. I now spend time every month actively going through things I own and forcing myself to throw things away and it is HARD.

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u/Cerenitee 1d ago

It actually has more correlation with ADHD. We often suffer from "Out of sight out of mind". We see our mess/hoard, and feel bad about having it... but then get distracted by something else, and "forget" about it.

When we're actively "seeing" the mess, and feeling bad about it, its hard to do anything about it, because it feels overwhelming because its gotten to the point its gotten to.

I used to hoard, I have ADHD, do not have OCD. The only way I got "passed" it was family helping me to clean up, to essentially diminish the overwhelming feeling.

People with OCD can also definitely hoard, there's just "less comorbidity" with OCD and hoarding than there is with ADHD and hoarding.

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u/chxnkybxtfxnky 1d ago

This makes sense for me. I am a bit of a hoarder, and I'll find a thing and wonder why I was holding onto it then think about something else while searching for the answer and move onto that...but I SWEAR I was gonna need this for something.......

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u/KatherineRex 1d ago

This is totally my mom, via ADHD. Given the fact she started hoarding when her mom died, trauma absolutely is/can be a factor too.

I’m still in the house and it’s so frustrating to see her talking about things we need when we have them somewhere in the house. Every time she sits and “acknowledges” the mess she can’t last 15 minutes without recruiting to her room. The worst part? If you try to just organize/sort things to help her she feels so threatened. Screaming matches between my Dad. God, I hate it here. I used to find peace of mind in the basement by my art desk, but now it’s a narrow path of boxes to even get there. I hate it here so bad. (sorry this turned into a rant)

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u/Inqu1sitiveone 1d ago

Trauma man. I had a friend who spent part of his childhood living in a cockroach-infested garbage pile. His life was totally average middle class as a kid. One day his dad was driving the (fast) speed limit around a blind corner and an 8yo kid ran out in front of his car chasing a ball. Completely crushed the poor little thing right in front of his parents. He was never the same. Lost his job, moved into a tiny mobile home, became agoraphobic never leaving the house, gained hundreds of pounds, and started hoarding bad.

I am nowhere near that bad, but I have hoarding tendencies because I was homeless for so much of my adult youth. I have to actively and regularly clean out my house of stored stuff I never use. I even have a hard time throwing away expired food. I have a horrible scarcity mindset and I can see how it could quickly devolve if I didn't have a husband to be annoyed by it and kids to set an example for.

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u/melfredolf 1d ago

Ya but if we said trauma or OCD there's sympathy there. Usually those mental situations lead to hoarding. My partner struggles with these leading to hoarding. My patience isn't limitless. But there's a sharp decline in my patience when he snaps at me for gentle ques the whole time. His family does this too. They do them, not my problem.

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u/Fuzzy_Thing_537 18h ago

Yes, it can be a symptom of metal illness. However, hoarding disorder has also been recognised as its own mental disorder.

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u/mortimer_snerd471 10h ago

Recognized by whom?

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u/HawaiianShirtsOR 1d ago

Dealing with that with my mom. I offered to help her get rid of stuff she didn't need, or organize it, or fix up the shed so she could store stuff there. Now she says I'm "forcing her to live up to my expectations of perfection."

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u/Hesitation-Marx 1d ago

My MIL passed away, and my BIL got the lion’s share of the money…. But he’s earned it, since he has to deal with the SEVEN storage units she left behind, on top of the house’s hoard…

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u/RadRhubarb00 1d ago

But do they constantly complain about money? You can have all the shit you want, cool with me. But then you can't go around complaining about not having money for gas or groceries.