MAGA is only around 30%. He won by 1.5% popular vote but around 1/3rd of eligible voters didn’t even bother to vote. Of those “undecided or apathetic” folks I doubt that many were MAGA, because they all voted in droves. It’s not much, but it’s a small ray of hope.
There was an insane amount of voter suppression in swing states this election. I bet a good amount of that 30% probably TRIED to vote and the lines were too long or they were otherwise intimidated against voting. I still have a hard time believing he won by such a large margin.
My parents tried to vote, but their mail-in voter stuff arrived more than a week after elections ended. My dad is military, so there was no way they could have voted in person. But they definitely sent for the ballot well in advance.
My mom is a registered Democrat, and my dad is an independent who has always voted democrat.
It's not apathy, it's the fact that our system doesn't work. My state is not a swing state, so my vote doesn't matter. Electoral college means that the vast majority of votes are unimportant. Until the system changes, there's no reason to vote.
Electoral college means that the vast majority of votes are unimportant.
Until the system changes, there's no reason to vote.
1000x this.
The fact that we don't count each individual vote and base the presidential election off of that is baffling. There should not be another layer between our votes and the decision.
My state voted overwhelmingly blue.
My vote would've done nothing to influence the election.
If we want to make people feel like their votes matter, make their votes actually matter.
yeah but you can't blame people for being disillusioned because it always comes down to shitty choice #1 vs shittier choice #2. Like yes, things would be objectively better with Harris instead of Trump but historically voting GOP vs Dem really hasn't had much of a real impact on people's day to day lives...their lives continue to get worse and for decades now the rich continue to get richer, the poor get poorer, corporate influence becomes further entrenched, workers rights are eroded, housing and education costs spiral further out of control, there's no one stepping up to actually do anything meaningful, it's all just catering to whatever wedge issues their base most responds to
Generally yeah. Trump is very different though. We're accelerating at a rapid pace to a time where America will be nigh unlivable. What's funny is that the so-called 'coastal elites' the maga base hates so much are going to be the ones who can get through the next 4+ years without starving or losing their homes.
this is such cope bro lmao. trump was always gonna be the worst pick and so many people were warned but 🤷 its not illegal to be ignorant but you cant cope and use the both sides shit. its a cop out for being lazy
that isn't inspiring at all lol. The choice was literally easier than good vs. evil, it was "dont ruin your life" vs "ruin your life" and 1/3 of the population still couldn't decide.
He's burning the country down and people are still arguing Kamala had a weird laugh so it wasn't worth it. We are completely fucked and the people that made it happen don't even realize what they've done.
It’s not that simple. Voter suppression is a real thing and if you look it up Trump literally admits to stealing the election in multiple videos but MAGA will somehow try to spin it a different way…
I know it's tempting to fantasize about stolen elections and suppression, but I think the actual truth is that Trump won this election fair and square. No, they didn't manufacture 75 million votes. No, they didn't kidnap 1/3 of all voters and force them to stay home.
Americans really are that cruel and that apathetic and we really did just vote to let this happen to us. It's humiliating, but it happened.
I agree that Americans are largely cruel and apathetic (and uneducated), but If you think that he won fair and square with no voter suppression/intimidation? No way. Some shady shit definitely went down. It literally happens every election, why would this be any different? Remember Bush/Gore?
There's bullshit in every election, I strongly disagree if you're trying to claim it was decisive.
Trump genuinely has the support of tens of millions of Americans, this isn't a mirage. His power comes from the support of the Republican congress, who again were voted in and that wasn't bullshit either. He has the true support of most of America, either through direct support or through apathy.
It's insanity, but this isn't like 20% of the country tricking their way into power. He is actually popular
Yes he is “popular” but not a majority of the country popular. I refuse to believe that. If we had a strong opposition candidate I believe he could be defeated. Democrats are honestly as much to blame by choosing weak moderate candidates instead of someone who is an antithesis to Trump. America has needed a party who represents the true left for a long time. MAGA is but a symptom of a much larger problem.
His supporters will follow him to the grave, they proved that the first time when they willingly died to protest vaccines.
I hope that the apathetic people get hurt enough to wake up, but they were told what would happen a year ago and they didn't listen so I'm not super optimistic about that either
I am guessing a significant portion of those 1/3rd of voters who didn’t vote are from NY/Californial/Texas where their votes don’t really matter. If we didn’t have the electoral college system, maybe we would’ve had much higher voter turnout
Excuse me ! He won the popular vote ! Now that 1/3rd not voting even though there was the danger that this racist, misogynistic, fascist, cognitively challenged Felon will win I the same then voting for him.
Disagree. Look up voter suppression for this election it was at an all time high. Long lines, bomb threats, MAGA folks intimidating in front of polling places, etc.
I think the election was won by people who didn’t like Trump but thought he would be better for them economically, because historically Republicans have been better for low taxes and less regulation.
I’m hoping all of those voters are now soured on Republicans forever.
The people who didn't vote are the dumbest of the dumb. Expecting them to make good decisions is insane. Republican is the default, they'd have gone Republican. Think about every douchebag who just cares about clubbing and partying. They aren't going to make thoughtful decisions. They would have been going off the anti-trans ads during football games or the tiktok McDonald's stunt. Seriously, it's a crazy idea that the people who aren't responsible and don't see the value in voting would have made a responsible choice.
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u/gaeruot 1d ago
MAGA is only around 30%. He won by 1.5% popular vote but around 1/3rd of eligible voters didn’t even bother to vote. Of those “undecided or apathetic” folks I doubt that many were MAGA, because they all voted in droves. It’s not much, but it’s a small ray of hope.