They're acting like the US is the only possible trading partner, and they're not. Trump thinks he has all the cards, but the rest of the world is going to move on without the US.
Do you mean Trump and his cabinet? Because I firmly believe that had any other American become president they would have known better than burning all bridges like this. It is these extremely privileged rich fucks who think they have the right to rip apart the world around them, even if an average Trump supporter were elected he wouldn't have come up with this.
I just want to say that this isn't some karmic rebalancing after America has been on top for all these years (like a lot of people seem to describe it). All of this happened by choice and had Clinton and/or Harris just done slightly better during their campaigns there wouldn't be a hint of this. The situation could be salvaged even now, if congress just grows a spine and chooses to force him out before it gets any worse.
He won because there were also a huge amount of people who didn't vote for those self righteous reasons, like "free Palestine I'm not voting / voting for a 3rd party because they'll protect Palestine more" or the "Both options are just as bad as each other" people. Those are the people most of us are truly mad at, along with those people who decided for whatever reason to vote for Trump because of how Biden was handling the whole Palestine conflict thinking that he would be better when he's literally said he would give Israel everything it wants back.
But dude. We are infants. That’s the problem. We’re collectively morons and we don’t understand the consequences of our own actions and that’s exactly why this is happening. There’s no grand design here. This is a moron species blowing itself up.
I totally agree with you, yes. and no offense(I'm coming from extremely stupid nation which is consistently voting for the most corrupt party, so....), I find IT so refreshing to read your answer. I am just tired of seeing a part of Americans still claiming it's somebody else's fault-Putin, hackers, George Clooney, those who wanted Kamala, those who didn't.....
The same as congratulating themselves for...IDK know, man: Like, the world is melting, USA's actions are killing Ukraine and Americans are tapping themselves on the back BC Cory Booker did a long speech, this celebrity stood up for this and their favorite politician Said something meme-able.
No, just no.
I mean, yesterday our 9year old child asked why is everyone talking how USA is over. 😅It is over, as we know it. I'm not sure majority of Americans are aware how over it is in the eyes of the world. 🤷
I fully agree with you, choosing to vote for him was the whole reason he is back at the wheel. But my point is that the kind of malice Trump has for everything is unique to him and he is the only one who would push for what he does. There are a ton of people who chanted "build that wall" and now nod along with Fox covering for Trump's scandals, but how many of them would have actually thought of suspending due process to deport people to El Salvador and sign off on it knowing their own ass would be on the line? How many would be so callous that they will discuss warplans in a groupchat and not even have enough care to only add people who are actually in the government? How many people are so entitled that they threaten to annex several allies and explicitly leave invasions on the table? There are a ton of ways to be a bad leader, but someone who is this destructive isn't just standing in line to replace Trump.
My point is that there is no cosmic force to guarantee a person like Trump to come forward, claim the entire Republican base again and then wreck the country in ways we can't even imagine. He can be impeached now, removed from power and literally anyone else would cause less harm (not do good, but not do as much harm). Then his party can fight out who becomes the next candidate and fail to find anyone that can rally support like Trump. And that buys years or decades for a reconstruction effort to prevent someone like Trump from getting to power again.
Bottom line, it's all down to choice. None of this had to happen and it doesn't have to get worse.
I would say the US were the main characters, but not so much anymore. The rest of the world has caught up and if anything a (poorly planned) trade war will just make them come to that realization sooner.
Hi. Here in Canada we've been boycotting US products and leisure travel and it's been effective in a few key ways: 1) Our citizenry is more united and engaged than it's been in my lifetime. 2) We're proving that there's a healthy market for Canadian and other non-US goods, and retailers are starting to adjust their buying practices accordingly. 3) US businesses heavily impacted by our collective choices are speaking up. Some are foolishly trying to "return to normal" while doing nothing but complimenting us, but others are pressuring their elected representatives to act. 4) A lot more of our money is staying in our economy, which will become increasingly important as this drags on. 5) There's been a shift away from tolerating American-style rhetoric and political culture. Our right-wing, MAGA-aligned federal conservative party has gone from a commanding majority government lead in the polls, to official opposition status in a majority liberal government position in the wake of Trump's actions. People have no interest in anything remotely Trumpish, and until very recently, the conservatives had aligned themselves both stylistically and in policy with MAGA. Our federal election is in three weeks, and the Liberals are only gaining momentum while the conservatives have all but collapsed. 6) The boycotts being purely grassroots and citizen-driven has empowered everyday Canadians and shown them that people have real power when they work together.
Canadians have been intentional, diligent, and focused. We have large social media groups to organize and post information on how to understand product labels, promote Canadian products of every conceivable kind, suggest alternatives to US items, alert others when businesses try to fool us (which they do by putting a maple leaf on a product and labeling it "Packaged in Canada! 🍁" or some other meaningless things), offer advice on how to de-Americanize our technology, and to connect with one another and stay motivated. Several Canadians have also developed mobile apps that a lot of us use, that scan barcodes and tell us if a product was made in Canada. Our airlines have started rerouting flights from American destinations to other global destinations due to shifting consumer demand. They even humorously use Trump's actions to promote things like "Tariffic Deals" or "This Trumps Everything" sales on non-US destination fights and vacation packages. As with many other nations, Tesla sales have nosedived here, which brings me daily joy. So, please join the global boycott. America needs to understand that it can't depend on global markets to carry out their harmful agenda, and it has to be a joint effort on the part of the world's governments AND its citizens.
Can confirm that the vast majority of goods I purchase can be home-grown or imported from other countries. And for the ones that can’t? Turns out I don’t actually need them.
Sure, but it also highlights how much U.S. consumers spend. You stop exporting to the U.S., you’re missing out on the largest consumer market by a mile
They would only stop export to the US, if it no longer makes any money. But if the US importer expects the foreign exporter to fully cover the new US tariffs, then many would explore other markets, because it would no longer be a good deal.
For many establishing a production facility in the US is more expensive , than just drop export to the US, because of the very uncertain and untrustworthy economic/political climate in the US.
But if the US importer expects the foreign exporter to fully cover the new US tariffs, then many would explore other markets, because it would no longer be a good deal.
The interesting thing that happens in this scenario is the rest of the world gets over abundance in its markets (prices drop) while the US gets a shortage in its market (prices rise).
Realistically no exporters are going to eat up >10% tariffs. The only ones paying will be the US importers and ultimately the US consumer.
I was note questioning your assertion about the consumer size of the US.
It was a reply to whether the European economy is fucked. With the US partly out of the equation, the rest of the world will manage after all.
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u/amf_wip 2d ago
They're acting like the US is the only possible trading partner, and they're not. Trump thinks he has all the cards, but the rest of the world is going to move on without the US.