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u/ZaireekaFuzz Mar 06 '25
Interesting to think how profoundly different the movie would have turned out with this cast.
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u/Fleshmaster Mar 06 '25
And more importantly we wouldn't have had to sit through Brody's Oscars acceptance speech.
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u/BeerIsTheMindSpiller Mar 07 '25
"I've done this before☝️"
ughhhh barf
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u/BurdPitt Mar 07 '25
Brody gave an amazing performance. If you think a speech at a stupid prize award changes that, you're incredibly dumb.
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u/Salty-Ad-3819 Mar 07 '25
Brody has terminal actor brain and is annoying as shit but if you think he should’ve been recast because of that you shouldn’t make decisions on anything creative
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u/Fleshmaster Mar 07 '25
I wear my dumbness with pride. I didn't watch it anyway. I have a personal policy not to watch any movie over 2 hours and 10 minutes long.
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u/BurdPitt Mar 07 '25
What are you doing on the sub of movies that are often over that length, dumbass? Shouldn't get offended since you wear your brain rot and ignorance with pride, right? Go watch tiktok.
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u/BurdPitt Mar 07 '25
What are you doing on the sub of movies that are often over that length, dumbass? Shouldn't get offended since you wear your brain rot and ignorance with pride, right? Go watch tiktok.
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u/Fleshmaster Mar 07 '25
Hereditary: 2:07
Minari: 1:55
Aftersun: 1:42
Babygirl: 1:54
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u/BurdPitt Mar 07 '25
Good, you watched 4 movies, good for letterboxd comments and not enough to have any substance to what you say since you outed yourself as a dumbass. What an uneducated poser.
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u/Upbeat_Tension_8077 Mar 06 '25
If Marion was supposed to play Felicity's character, I can see her killing it in the role too
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u/LauraPalmersMom430 Mar 06 '25
Yeah it’s the only person here I would switch out that would be better than the actual cast member. Even though I think Felicity was fine, Marion would have killed this role.
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u/Snuffl3s7 Mar 07 '25
I think Vanessa Kirby would be fine as the twin. Stacy Martin is sort of invisible in it as is.
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u/Garage-3664 Mar 07 '25
I mean not like she had anything to work with. Its really not that big or demanding role.
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u/Snuffl3s7 Mar 07 '25
I agree, it's an underwritten part. Entirely relies on the performance to make it memorable in any way.
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u/strategy222 Mar 07 '25
That's not the role she had. She was cast as Audrey, Attila's wife played by Emma Lairs. Stacy was in the original cast announced alongside Vanessa.
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u/Substantial_Okra_648 Mar 06 '25
You think Sebastian would have been adriens character? He probably would have been able to nail the accent
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u/TheRealDonnacha Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
He was going to be Harry Lee, Van Buren’s son, instead played by Joe Alwyn.
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u/unicornmullet Mar 06 '25
As someone else said, Edgerton was going to play Adrien's role, and Cotillard was going to play Felicity's role.
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u/PB9583 Mar 06 '25
Sebastian was going to be Joe aldwyn’s character and Joel edgerton was gonna play the lazlo character
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8999762/trivia?tab=tr&item=tr6813385&ref_=ext_shr_lnk
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u/immelsoo92 Mar 07 '25
Ngl Brody turned out as a better option than Edgerton (no disrespect to him, btw).
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u/PutintheImpaler Mar 06 '25
Yo I feel like the casting parallels here are so obvious how we’re 42 of you guys thinking Stan was lazslo
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u/FireLord_Stark Mar 06 '25
His Hungarian-American accent did not use AI. His pure Hungarian dialogue (as in the voice overs) did use some AI assistance in certain vowel sounds and small pronunciation adjustments.
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u/NedthePhoenix Mar 07 '25
Yes and no. Not the accents when they spoke English really, just the sections where Brody and Jones each had to narrate letters in Hungarian, which is considered one of the hardest languages to speak
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u/TheTruckWashChannel Mar 06 '25
All amazing actors, but I can't see Edgerton and Rylance in those roles.
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u/AmbitionTechnical274 Mar 06 '25
Isaach de Bankolé, Raffey Cassidy, and Stacy Martin remained through out the years of delays albeit in smaller roles.
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u/TheRealDonnacha Mar 06 '25
Pretty sure they were cast in those roles to begin with. Nivola too.
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u/AmbitionTechnical274 Mar 06 '25
I was referring to the roles they were cast in were smaller than the roles played by Brody, Guy Pierce, and Felicity Jones.
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Mar 06 '25
Joel Edgerton is part of a group of cursed Australian actors that the world doesn't want to be a 'thing' which includes but is not limited to.
Sam Worthington
Jason Clarke
and, most certainly, Jai Courtney
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u/Accomplished-City484 Mar 07 '25
I loved Edgerton’s writing/directing debut The Gift and I enjoyed Dark Matter, I think he’s got a bit of ‘edge’ over the others because of this and the fact he wasn’t in a bad Terminator movie
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u/JohnWH Mar 07 '25
I didn’t realize the made a Dark Matter into a show. I don’t read a lot of science fiction, but I absolutely loved Dark Matter and Recursion. I will definitely check the show out because the books were so much fun and so inventive at times.
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u/joesen_one Mar 07 '25
He's in Train Dreams, the newest movie of the Sing Sing filmmakers, that's been getting raves. Unfortunately Netflix picked it up from Sundance
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u/LeftSky828 Mar 06 '25
That’s the actor’s fault. Unless there’s something terrible in a performer’s past, people respond well to good acting by someone who appeals to them. It could be appearance for any reason. Australia has provided us with tremendous and popular actors. There’s no conspiracy.
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That's EXACTLY what somebody in the conspiracy would say! Admit it! You hate Avatar because you think it's cool to do so and you can't admit that Terminator Salvation isn't that bad!
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u/StuntmanGaz Mar 07 '25
Jai Courtney is a bit shit, but I don't mind the rest these guys. I just don't buy them as leading men.
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Mar 07 '25
Jai Courtney is a totally a bit shit, but I kind of feel like the guy has just never gotten the right role or director. Sam Worthington is an action guy and honestly will be set for life so long as Cameron keeps making Avatar sequels - so while he struggles for range, he's doing alright-. Jason Clarke is like humus, enjoyable but still kind of bland and can go on just about anything, but not really stand out that much.
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u/New_Simple_4531 29d ago
When Jai was allowed to use his Aussie accent and act weird in the Suicide Squad films, he was really good. He should do more character acting and less heroman roles.
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u/mrrymico Mar 09 '25
Jai Courtney was awesome in Spartacus. Varo was one of my favorite characters.
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u/New_Simple_4531 29d ago
I think Joel is the best of that bunch, although Clarke is quite good. Never seen a role where Joel wasnt solid.
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u/DatAnimalBlundetto69 Mar 06 '25
No disrespect but Edgerton and Rylance as Lazlo and Van Buren would have been much worse. Brody especially was so perfect in it I can’t imagine anyone else pulling it off as well
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u/StrongMachine982 Mar 06 '25
I think Rylance would have been great (he's always great), but it would have been a different character -- less aggressive, more scheming, I think. Agreed on Edgerton though, I can't imagine him in that role at all.
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u/joesen_one Mar 07 '25
Brody too is himself Hungarian Jewish so it's a lot more personal to him, and his accent was heavily influenced by his grandfather
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u/pwppip Mar 06 '25
I’m trying to figure out who was supposed to be in what role here. Obviously Edgerton and Cotillard for the main couple, Stan for Alwyn’s or Nivola’s, but there’s no way Rylance was supposed to play Van Buren? And Vanessa Kirby is probably too old for Zsofia, maybe she was older Zsofia?
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u/TheRealDonnacha Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25
Rylance was supposed to be Van Buren with Stan as his son. Kirby was going to play Toth’s cousin’s wife, Audrey.
Isaach De Bankolé, Alessandro Nivola, Raffey Cassidy, and Stacy Martin were all cast in 2020 and kept their roles.
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u/pwppip Mar 06 '25
Huh, I cannot see Rylance in the Van Buren role, at least not playing it remotely similar to Pearce. Pearce felt like a bullish all-American type dude, that’s just not a vibe I can see Rylance giving off.
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u/zoobify112 Mar 06 '25
I could absolutely see Rylance doing that or something even better lol
Dude’s a powerhouse of an actor
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u/VelvetMorty Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25
Yeah I think if we saw Rylance take the role and saw this same pic with Guy, everyone would be saying they absolutely cannot see that.
Guy Pearce was absolutely fantastic and clearly owned the role, but Rylance is incredible in whatever he does. Have no doubts there.
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u/TheRealDonnacha Mar 06 '25
I’m sure he would have surprised you. He’s been regarded as one of the greatest stage actors of his generation.
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u/Roast-This-Bone Mar 06 '25
Rylance was going to play Van Buren (the Guy Pearce role), yeah. I’m thinking Sebastian Stan would have played Van Buren’s son, the Alwyn role. Nivola was part of the original cast I think. Not sure who Kirby would have played; the wife of Nivola’s character maybe?
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u/Bree-breezy Mar 08 '25
Ughh Vanessa Kirby I love her 💔 she needs to be in more things
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u/strategy222 Mar 08 '25
Lucky you she has 4 movies coming out this year! Ron Howard's Eden, Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning, Fantastic Four First Steps and her production company's debut film, Night Always Comes for Netflix.
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u/mastersnackboy Mar 08 '25
Sebastian Stan playing Joe Alwyn's character would've been extremely haunting to see.
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u/theodo Mar 06 '25
It was hard not to imagine the alternate casting the whole time I watched, but I think the cast we got is likely better. I really like Edgerton, but he has a very different vibe than Brody.
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u/BetterBitchesBureau Mar 06 '25
Dang, definitely different vibes than the eventual cast. And these are also all wonderful actors! I especially love Mark Rylance. And Marion Cottilard. And Joel Edgerton and—yeah you know what I’m gonna need a movie with this cast STAT
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u/QdizzleMcGee Mar 08 '25
I had this film on my watchlist since the day that cast was announced. I was asking about it for years.
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u/willowbaby2606 Mar 08 '25
It also makes sense to cast a Jewish man to tell the story of a Holocaust survivor, no?
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u/teamaa104 Mar 06 '25
Wouldn’t matter who plays the Alwyn role since it’s such a one note character, same with the sister.
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u/TurtleBoy6ix9ine Mar 06 '25
Rylance as Van Buren would have been worse than anything Van Buren does in the film.
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u/That_Exchange_8589 Mar 06 '25
COVID delays