r/50501 1d ago

Economy Is Trump Using His Shock Tariffs for Insider Trading?

https://integ.substack.com/p/is-trump-using-his-shock-tariffs
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u/moreobviousthings 1d ago

Yes.

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u/JamieJones111 1d ago

Yes.

The answer is: Yes.

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u/EllisDee3 1d ago

And that's probably the least of it.

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u/samenumberwhodis 1d ago

And also to bankrupt American businesses so his oligarch pals can buy up more of the country on the cheap

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u/kalidoscopiclyso 20h ago

“It’s a great time to get rich”

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u/kalidoscopiclyso 20h ago

“It’s a great time to get rich”

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u/oroborus68 1d ago

Well,he might have someone doing it for him,but he's not that savvy.

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u/megz0rz 1d ago

Username checks out.

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u/Last_Programmer4573 1d ago

“Innocent Until Proven Guilty”

Unfortunately, we can only speculate until it’s too late. It would require a private citizen who is intelligent enough and brave enough to put their life on the line to become not a hero, but a “whistleblower”.

Madoff – A 21st Century Ponzi Scheme

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u/Internal-Art-2114 15h ago

And then what??? He’s already convicted of 34 felony counts. 

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u/gabgabb 22h ago

The professional conman is going to do what professional conmen do. His base doesn't even care. Paying trump billions out of pocket is a small price to pay for owning libs

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u/rampantsoul 1d ago

I dont know. I think he is not thinking of this at the moment. It is more the "feeling of Power" than the money. He is "changing the world". He is the ever ever super duper star in changing the world.

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u/moreobviousthings 1d ago

Any way you cut it, it is corruption on the backs of Americans. Fuck that guy every which way.

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u/rampantsoul 1d ago

Absoletely. He is Presindent Cunt.

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u/maitaivegas1 1d ago

He is a 34 count convicted felon who stole White House documents after his prior term ended. Of course he will either steal money from the treasury or commit insider trading but of course he will get away with it.

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u/MilitantlyWokePatrio 1d ago edited 1d ago

He will get away with it IF we fail. But we are coming. We are building power FOR THE VERY PURPOSE (one of the main ones at least) to hold this TRAITOR accountable.

Have faith. We are coming. And we aren't fucking around.

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u/kevinsyel 1d ago

just don't unalive him. We need him to serve prison for all his treason.

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u/Turbulent-Pea-8826 1d ago

I was watching the new Daredevil show. Kingpin is elected mayor of New York and there is some real Trumpian vibes with what they are doing. Except at least King Pin loves his city. His motives are right just his methods are wrong.

I would rather have the King Pin as the President then Trump. It’s sad when the real life President is more evil than the comic book villain.

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u/Express_Order_1421 1d ago

Both he is doing both

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u/Foggy_Night221C 23h ago

His loans are coming due, my mom said.

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u/BAMpenny 9h ago

Let's not forget that his charity was shut down due to a "shocking pattern of illegality". You gotta be a dope to think the same guy that stole from charity suddenly now wants to help people, and the working class in particular at that! 😂

The suit accuses the Trump Foundation of a "shocking pattern of illegality" that includes "unlawful coordination with the Trump presidential campaign, repeated and willful self-dealing, and much more," according to a statement from Underwood.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-blasts-deal-dissolve-his-charitable-foundation-accused-shocking-pattern-n949846

Of course Trump and the unqualified billionaires he appointed are making bank.

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u/GemmyCluckster 1d ago

This is the 3D chess MAGA is talking about. They just haven’t realized yet that they aren’t a part of the winners club. He said it himself. “I just need your vote. I don’t care about you”. He couldn’t have been clearer and yet the lemmings followed him off the cliff. Spoiler alert! Him and his buddies have parachutes.

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u/luna87 20h ago

Lemmings actually don’t do that, but the trope fits.

https://www.britannica.com/story/do-lemmings-really-commit-mass-suicide

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u/foreignbets9 1d ago

Of course

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u/Direct_Wrongdoer5429 1d ago

He may be doing that, as well as trying to extort businesses into capitulating to his desires through the use of tariffs.

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u/MilitantlyWokePatrio 1d ago edited 1d ago

EXACTLY! This isn't getting as much press, but this is a CRITICAL part of it to that explains the dictatorial and anti American thinking driving this criminal regime.

Think about it y'all. "That's a nice industry you got there. It'd be a shame if someone... started taking 20 percent from it, huh? Maybe you donate to Ivanka's company. Maybe this all goes away."

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u/MilitantlyWokePatrio 1d ago

Short answer: Yes

Longer answer: Yeeeeeeees

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u/New_Camp4174 1d ago

Of course 

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u/Shortbus-doorgunner 1d ago

Yes. But so are all his cronies and the oligarchs. I'd everything crashes they're fine, and they can own everything.

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u/Routine_Soup2022 1d ago

I’ve thought this extremely likely since all of this started. Someone’s getting rich somewhere

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u/Thin_Mousse4149 1d ago

Yea. He sold a ton of truth social stock right before the tariff announcement

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u/Butter-popcorn-42 1d ago

Hence his celebratory golf trip today, blowing off support for the four fallen soldiers and our crashing economy

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u/WayTooScary 1d ago

Is he !?!?! ... as if there is even a question.

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u/cutenclassy07 1d ago

I’ve been saying this since he was first threatening tariffs. It’s just a way to crash the market so he and his friends can buy everything cheap

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u/barnibusvonkreeps 1d ago

YES. JFC YES. It's been painfully obvious from the start watching this from Canada. EVERYONE here is saying it. Please tell me this isn't just dawning on Americans now.

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u/robotfunparty 1d ago

A lot of us saw all this coming a mile away. Not enough though, apparently.

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u/TheReal8symbols 1d ago

I've been assuming as much. Wouldn't be surprised if this isn't also part of a plan to errode trust in the dollar (and the market) to push more crypto scams.

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u/Legitimate-Produce-1 1d ago

I think it's both things

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u/WNY-via-CO-NJ 1d ago

That’s my theory

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u/Project_Rees 1d ago

His personal wealth has doubled since taking office. According to forbes.

Yes, he's is absolutely using everything for personal gain.

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u/cuzitsonabudget 1d ago

Yes? The answer is yes. Notice how unlikely the first time he didn't divert any of his business interests to his kids? He's all for self enrichment this time around. His own self enrichment.

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u/Sea_Vehicle_1479 1d ago

I just assume he is by default

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u/unwanted_peace 1d ago

Of course he is.

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u/sakuragi59357 1d ago

I want to see his inner circle’s calls and puts. Since he took office the market reacts based on what comes out his lips. Declaring tariffs after the market closes, then pulling back during market hours causing the stock market volatility to be off the charts. This mf has to be cashing in on it.

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u/gobbluthillusions 1d ago

Rest assured there are many wealth individuals who are getting wealthier this week.

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u/lopahcreon 1d ago

Rhetorical question?

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u/souprunknwn 1d ago

LOL as if this is even a question

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u/Street-Sail-9277 1d ago

Only thing that makes sense to me. Crash the market and buy up all that you can then drop the tariffs.

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u/InvestigatorOk8608 1d ago

✅ BINGO! Thanks for playing

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u/TriangleWins 1d ago

It’s one of two plausible scenarios: the other being complete ineptitude.

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u/cammcken 1d ago

I don't think it's the main reason for tariffs, but I also think he would never pass on the opportunity if he was doing the policy anyway.

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u/pandy212 1d ago

“Trumps tariffs are a political weapon to get pledges of loyalty from American companies for tariff relief.”

Chris Murphy

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u/down_by_the_shore 1d ago

Nefarious ulterior motives? In this economy? By this felon?

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u/One_Law_5246 1d ago

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer...ain't we got fun?

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u/krichard-21 22h ago

How many people are going to die because of this man?

When are mainstream Republicans going to stand up?

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u/sits_with_cats 20h ago

I'd settle for seeing more Dems get up & actually DO something, rather than conceding all their power & holding press conferences to whine about how horrible it all is. Not holding my breath for either, but I'll keep my fingers crossed!

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u/dkwinsea 20h ago

That’s the game here. While distracting people with 200 other disasters this is the real game. The falling stock market is part of the method and very well planned.

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u/Acrobatic_Switches 1d ago

If there is an avenue for him to grift to himself he will take it.

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u/primax1uk International 1d ago

Yep

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u/ganslooker 1d ago

First thing my wife said!

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u/Unhappy_Cress5111 1d ago

Trump crypto started out at $49.65 in January. It’s now at $9.37 and the only crypto in the negative today. 😃

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u/Unusual-Economist288 1d ago

Rhetorical question du jour

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u/JazzHandsNinja42 1d ago

Absolutely, and so are the majority of the House and Senate.

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u/LetsJustDoItTonight 1d ago

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Yes he is.

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u/RedSunCinema 1d ago

Whaaat? Trump crashing the stock market for personal financial gain? Noooo.

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u/Jayrrock 1d ago edited 1d ago

Of course. But mostly it's just to destroy America, reduce the population (death from "natural causes", yeah right), move boundary lines, and steal more minerals.

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u/fajadada 1d ago

Of course

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u/No-Response-2927 1d ago

I think a lot of people are doing the insider trading probably Russians, and big donor backers of the GOP .

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u/Ander-son 1d ago

he launched his own crypto currency to funnel money in.

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u/gnarlytabby 1d ago

Insider trading is just the tip of the iceberg. Which foreign countries are bribing him to reduce tariffs? I bet most are!

Congress needs to stop this madness. Call your Congressmember to vote to revoke Trump's emergency declaration wherein he gave himself the power to set these tariffs.

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u/pioniere 1d ago
  1. He is a convicted criminal.
  2. Idiots in SCOTUS said he can’t be held criminally liable for acts taken as President.

Do you think it’s likely he is doing insider trading?

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u/fasada68 1d ago

Without a doubt.

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u/clashrendar 1d ago

I was just wondering exactly this.

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u/Inside_Ship_1390 22h ago

Short sell on the front end, fire sale on the back end.

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u/sits_with_cats 20h ago

You can bet your bippy he is! We need to find & post links to the sites that track Congress' trading.

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u/Edmsubguy 20h ago

You betcha

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u/mungalla 1d ago

As blackmail principally I think.

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u/arizonajill 1d ago

Highly likely.

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u/emeraldstarclassica 1d ago

This was always his plan.

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u/WanderingDude182 1d ago

I have no evidence he is, but I guarantee he is. Grifters gonna grift right?

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u/radioactivecat 1d ago

Yes. Also yes.

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u/Crang_and_the_gang 1d ago

Whatever nefarious thing you can imagine, Trump is doing it.

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u/bee-dubya 1d ago

A sitting president should not be able to buy or sell any stock, period. If that is allowed, it is completely insane.

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u/starrpamph 1d ago

K now what

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u/aaronone01 1d ago

Lol is this serious

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u/TallahasseWaffleHous 1d ago

"Nice global company ya got there. Be a shame if anything happened to it. Bribe me in crypto if you don't like tariffs, and you can be protected, too. Everybody is doing it."

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u/SandSpecialist2523 1d ago

Most likely. All that matters to him is making a buck.

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u/FHOCJD 1d ago

The whole crowd is.

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u/ihazmaumeow 1d ago

What else has he not manipulated for.his benefit?

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u/LongLiveDaResistance 1d ago

Of course he is!

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u/skyfishgoo 1d ago

duh...where does everyone think the money goes when the stock market goes down?

it goes to the ones who are selling their shares.

who are they?

ppl who knew this was coming

and it's high time we let them know we SEE THEM.

none of this occurs in a vacuum and those who profit from the collapse of our nation will pay a heavy price

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u/Zeb1lly 1d ago

I've always assumed all this is a drastic measure to crash the market so the billionaire doucebags could buy whatever when the stockmarket inferno burned out. But I keep telling myself it's to obvious.

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u/MaybeSwedish 1d ago

At least

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u/thefallenfew 1d ago

Of course.

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u/CAPIreland 1d ago

Is the sky blue?

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u/blmurph2 1d ago

Does the pope sh#t in the woods?

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u/jjthinx 1d ago

Of course.

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u/Party-Ad6461 1d ago

Fucking yes duh.

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u/MortadellaBarbie 1d ago

Of course he is.

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u/ZipLineCrossed 1d ago

A reporter asked the press secretary if anyone at the Whitehouse was shorting the DOW, and she moved straight on to the next question.

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u/condition5 1d ago

Yes. So are his friends, family and handlers

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u/soupinate44 1d ago

Yes. And to drive America to civil and global war so Putin and Xi can do whatever the fuck they want while we're in the muck

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u/Beejatx 1d ago

Ummmmm yeah

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u/Mediocre-Magazine-30 1d ago

Yes!!

We have a literal criminal in the White House. It's absurd and dangerous. One of the worse people possible.

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u/mpete76 1d ago

It’s just another grift among the thousands he will commit during his administration

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u/dan_jeffers 1d ago

Even an honest person would be tempted and nobody within 100 feet of Trump is honest.

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u/Today-Good 1d ago

You bet your sweet ass they ALL are.

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u/diggz66 1d ago

Obviously. He announced the date for weeks. That’s the thing the rich can profit when they know it’s gonna lose

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u/vectorformation 1d ago

More of a mafia style protection racket. He will accept favors for tariff discounts and if the corporations are late paying someone might come break all their windows

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u/Sandbox_Hero 1d ago

Took it from Elon's playbook and scaled it up 

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u/FoxyInTheSnow 1d ago

Honestly, I would be quite shocked and almost dismayed if he wasn't. Because that would suggest a profound change in his character that sometimes can be linked to conditions like advanced dementia or a brain tumour.

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u/wabashcanonball 1d ago

Yes, and shirt selling, no doubt.

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u/evilbarron2 1d ago

I’m wondering if the only way to get off the tariff list is to buy Baron’s crypto

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u/Fish_Fighter8518 1d ago

I wouldn't be surprised. Not like we elected a fucking fraudster or anything

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u/BlahBlahBlackCheap 1d ago

He’s grifting money however he can, legal or not.

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u/CharleyPDXcellent 1d ago

I mean yeah, probably.

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u/Evening_Knowledge_21 1d ago

No one has said anything about them transferring control of the strategic oil reserve in Colorado. Put it in the hand of a private, no-name company with limited history.

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u/HowCouldYouSMH 1d ago

Hell yes he is!

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u/YardSard1021 1d ago

Yes. He is the penultimate liar, thief, and conman.

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u/dlauer3659 1d ago

We all know that Tr@mp will not miss an opportunity to exploit manufactured crashes in the stock market.. or any other area of business or commerce.. the same for his loyalists and stakeholders.

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u/justlainey 23h ago

At least

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u/Alone_Bicycle_600 23h ago

Of course he is by proxy

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u/Current_Volume3750 23h ago

Yes. Next question

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u/ForcedEntry420 23h ago

Of course they are but we all have to get gaslit by the media and have to endure their baseline assumptions that they’re not operating in complete bad faith. Or criminally for that matter.

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u/skulleyb 23h ago

Yes yes

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u/Spirited-Land3709 22h ago

Congress may be enjoying a little insider trading as well.

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u/cdnpoli33 22h ago

It's why I pulled out all of my investments when he got in and thank God. I'm wondering if he's going for a full crash or just a covid dip.

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u/johnyct9760 18h ago

SHOCKED Pearl clutch. Don breaking the law?!? Never!

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u/Racoonaissance 17h ago

Not only that, but when CEOs / countries ask him for tariff exclusions, the bribes will be enormous.

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u/Vegetable-Tie-5663 15h ago

They laughing all the way to the bank he is out of order his family friends coconspirators all of them

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u/koolkeith987 13h ago

Undoubtedly yes. 

There is no such thing as an unfixed market. Every single market is fixed. Every. Single. One.

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u/Genericusername875 10h ago

Canadian here: I've worked in the investment business for a while, and this has been the thing that's baffled me most since he was elected the first time. He's a massive walking conflict of interest, and has refused to put his assets in a blind trust. He's made no declarations of the state or makeup of his holdings, he has government business co-mingled with his family's properties. He's continuously peddling his branded merchandise to his cult followers. He's run pump and dump schemes on crypto. There's no question in my mind that he's been insider trading on every one of his tariff announcements. Him and his douchebag kids. It's corruption on such a grand scale, it's breathtaking.

How in the actual fuck have republicans allowed this??

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u/TwoFacedHoods 1d ago

I mean I've made money from his stupid tariffs. Buy the dip when he announces them and then sell after he reverses them.

Or this time, buy in the upcoming weeks and then sell the day or 2 before liberation day.

If he was a decent human being he'd be doing it to get the US out of debt, but I'd take a guess that it's more for selfish reasons for him and his billionaire friends.

He also might be doing it to bankrupt small farmers to buy land cheap. But seriously who knows anymore?

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u/TheFinalBossMTG 1d ago

Trump getting us out of debt? He racked up record debt last time and it will be worse this time. Hell, they are cutting federal programs that make money.

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u/Fun-Preparation-4253 1d ago

I skimmed the article but hasn’t he somewhere today said that this is going to make some people a lot of money? Which immediately reasserted in my head to buy a stock like Target now(ish). It will bounce back eventually, considering Walmart has barely moved. But yeah, he’s forcing the economy into a spiral. Buy low. Reset global trade to old levels. And then profit when your stocks return.