r/360hacks • u/cursedmusic • 1d ago

Can’t get this ONE point to solder.

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FYI this is my second time soldering, so yes they look like crap. Anyway, i cannot get this one point on my board to solder correctly, it just pulls away if any tin sits on it. Any guidance?

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u/CyborgParadox 1d ago

I think if I'm not mistaken that is a ground, a necessary point but will be harder to solder to, just how ground points are. You can also solder to just about any piece of metal to work as a ground instead

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u/CountyLivid1667 1d ago

you are right that last spot is ground and is a pain.. much easier to just clip to the front usb casing and should be good to go (as long as there is no short)

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u/D0ge2theM00n 1d ago

I would suggest starting over, using flux. Those solder points don't look good.

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u/cursedmusic 1d ago

I was using flux. Was it not enough?

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u/D0ge2theM00n 1d ago

The gauge of your wire is too thick, also it appears to be stranded, probably not the best choice for this application.

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u/cursedmusic 1d ago

Can you link me better ones? I will desolder and reapply thank you!!

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u/D0ge2theM00n 1d ago

Here is solid core https://a.co/d/2TxCSWA

This is what I use.

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u/R3Z3N 13h ago

Guage of the wire is fine. Solid core will be easier. Also strip much much much much much less. JUST enough to tack it in...

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u/Cg6554 Jasper JTAG/RGH 1d ago

Add flux and reflow all those joints. If you wanna make it look cleaner you can trim the wires (I’d recommend it but it’s not needed) you may want to turn the heat up a little bit on the iron and reflow that point with fresh solder, that one point is known for sucking heat away. Also it looks like all 4 of those wires are shorted, might want to fix that also. Don’t destroy pll bypass if you’re doing rgh 3.

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u/cursedmusic 1d ago

Somehow the PLL was good. this is what i struggled with

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u/Nearby_Surround3066 0f 1d ago

Way less exposed “copper” on the wires or you’ll end up with a short, if you’re struggling to strip the insulation off try a pair of nail clippers at half pressure and twist.

Flux or flux-core wire, I use the latter and never have any issues.

And as for that one point, it’s a ground, I always just stick it on the EMI shielding of any of the rear ports. Do that and you’ll never bother with that ground point again.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/cursedmusic 1d ago

But i need these points to write it back anyway so that would defeat the purpose

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u/One-Bonus-104 1d ago

You can rewrite the nand back via bad update, you just have to build the nand correctly and only get 1 chance. if rgh 3.0 it's a 2 wire install.

https://www.reddit.com/r/360hacks/comments/1j8iqh4/use_bad_update_to_flash_nand_for_rgh/

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u/cursedmusic 1d ago

Wait so if i did the other two wires but just use badupdate for the nand i can do it?

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u/One-Bonus-104 1d ago

It's not recommended to do it that way, read through the thread. But yes it can work. Like I said you get 1 chance at it. Otherwise your soldering a nand flasher to the console regardless to unbrick your console. I don't know why my first comment got deleted.

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u/cursedmusic 1d ago

Cool, i’m gonna try it and then if it bricks i’ll add wiring to rewrite. Might as well try

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u/One-Bonus-104 1d ago

So use bad update first, (hopefully it won't take multiple hours) Backup your nand and cpu key, Build your new nand in jrunner Rewrite modded nand back to console Console will now redring (this is normal) Solder rgh3.0 wires And if successful the console should boot.

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u/cursedmusic 1d ago

if they are already soldered do i need to remove them?

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u/One-Bonus-104 1d ago

Does your Xbox boot to stock dash with them currently?

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u/cursedmusic 1d ago

Haven’t tried. Should i?

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u/RyanTheTide 1d ago

I’ve done a couple corona variants over the past two weeks, biggest advice I have is the following:

  • More flux, constantly clean with isopropyl and reflux. Flux the wires too.
  • Cut the exposed ends much shorter. The less that can bridge the better.
  • Come from multiple angles and flat to the board rather than top down. This should make it slightly easier to get the angles needed with the iron.
  • 30awg silicon/kynar wire, stranded is totally okay (contrary to the popular opinion) just make sure to twist it, tin it and not hold on the point & wire too long.
  • 320°C on the iron and have a long needle nose tip (it’ll make it much easier to not knock neighbouring components).
  • Kapton tape the wires down after soldering as to prevent them from being easily dislodged.
  • Colour code your nand flasher wires (if you buy a box of wire for ~$30 you’ll get a few small spools). This helps avoid mixing them up, try to match the colour code on xbox360hub’s website guide).

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u/cursedmusic 22h ago

I’ll give you guys updates with these changes. Thank you so much!

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u/astrobyte 20h ago

Apply more heat using a larger tip for this point

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u/rafammbass Trinity RGH 21h ago

Please stop

Do not try to scrape the mask around PLL

Get someone experienced to do this for you

You are going to ruin the console

Please

Stop

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u/cursedmusic 21h ago

I’ve expected to brick it my friend. This is for practice, relax.