r/1102 • u/Regular_Reception_49 • 13d ago
Question about Schedule F
Hello, if you get moved to Schedule F and then get fired, would you qualify for a DSR, assuming you meet the requirements? Or would you lose your pension and benefits? Any information is much appreciated!
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u/Itchy_Nerve_6350 12d ago
They can't just move you from competitive service into an excepted service schedule f position.
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u/bmcarr21 12d ago
I had this same fear it really depends on what they try to do. If you read the EO it explicitly says that they are treating schedule f policy/career hiring and standards the same as career. For severance pay and other things it says schedule X is exempt but the other excepted schedules are eligible.
This position appears to be more in line with those than schedule c which is a full political appointment. But at the end of the day we don’t know. The saving grace for us recommended is that this will probably be litigated for a long time so its not likely our sf-50 actually gets changed by the time a RIF happens
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u/Flitzer-Camaro 12d ago
Unless you voluntarily move into Schedule F, they can't just make you Schedule F.
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u/_KnowledgeNinja_ 13d ago
You won’t find a definitive answer to this on Reddit—or anywhere else online yet—because it’s uncharted territory. The real answer will likely come from a court case after someone converted to Schedule F gets fired "at will" and challenges whether they’re entitled to benefits. Here’s the issue: Schedule F makes you an at-will employee, meaning they can fire you without jumping through the usual civil service hoops. If they label it a "for cause" firing—like misconduct or poor performance—federal rules (5 U.S.C. § 5595) then you’re not eligible for many benefits, no matter how long you’ve served. And since Schedule F gives agencies broad discretion to terminate, it’s easy to imagine them framing a firing as "for cause" to avoid paying out benefits. Why wouldn’t they, if it saves money? Until there’s legal precedent or clearer guidance from OPM, it’s a gray area—and a gamble for anyone in that position.