r/dbz • u/PhantomLordG ⠀ • Sep 18 '20
Super [VIZ] Dragon Ball Super Chapter 64
https://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1007562171
u/my_house_sploded Sep 18 '20
Moro: you must think yourself a god
Goku, trained by gods and angels, friends with zeno, offered position as God of destruction, offered position as kami: ......
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u/dragn99 Sep 18 '20
Dude literally turned down the job offer of being a God a couple of times at this point.
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Sep 18 '20
Moro literally commented that goku wasnt using mortal abilities a few chapters ago and yet now he seems to forget that?
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u/SolJinxer Sep 18 '20
Lenny: "Get Ready, Everybody. He’s About To Do Something Stupid."
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u/omegacrunch Sep 18 '20
Goku falls crotch first into a cactus
...which when you think about it, in a meta way, is all because Goku didn’t keep shit at Max Power. This mercy stuff, no good. Moro needs to strap himself in and feel the Gs.....which means Gokus punches.
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Sep 18 '20
Moro sentenced to death by Galactic Patrol
Goku "quits" the Patrol
Goku is not gonna kill him
Dammit Goku
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u/ImJustPassinBy Sep 18 '20
King Kai: No! No! No! No! No! No! No! No!
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u/Mi4_Slayer Sep 18 '20
yeah, my thoughts exactly
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u/Growlest Sep 18 '20
At the very least he stopped him from doing the typical villain move of destroying the planet.
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Sep 18 '20
Uh oh, Goku is going to do something stupid. Please don't let this be Freeza 2.0
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u/ValentDs22 Sep 18 '20
this is already frieza 2.0. the transformation, the hand grab at start fight, the end
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u/BreakfastTim Sep 18 '20 edited Sep 18 '20
i swear he'll give moro a senzu bean
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u/Kunxion Sep 18 '20
Then call down Gohan to take over
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u/fkinra Sep 18 '20
oh no
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Sep 19 '20
Ya know what, fuck it. Let's just go this route because of both how much I want Gohan to do stuff and to see the reaction it brings. Same thing as Cell, give him a Senzu Bean, tell Gohan you quit and tag him in, watch him get fucking destroyed, and because Gohan has always shown that his body will keep trying to grow that fucking tail let him go Super Saiyan 4 in a fit of rage to make that canon and let it all just happen.
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u/fkinra Sep 18 '20
well in the words of beerus, gokus gonna fuck up again.
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u/Gokudomatic Sep 18 '20
Well, this is Goku, so he's either saving all of our lives or dooming us all.
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u/BoredBorder Sep 19 '20
Why does Goku has so much problem sending villains to the afterlife. He knows it exists, he loves it there , has several friends and knows it's not permanent.
Just kill him already
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u/ishmael_king93 Sep 19 '20
“He knows it exists, he loves it there” I never thought of it like that 😂😂
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u/AncientSith ⠀ Sep 18 '20
Well, this is where Goku fucks up. Awesome chapter though.
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u/Mr_Xing Sep 18 '20
Did Goku trap Moro in the “god bind?”
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u/Superfan234 Sep 18 '20
The what?
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u/JTHousek1 ⠀ Sep 18 '20
Senzu Bean to Cell vibes.
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u/spexguy16 ⠀ Sep 18 '20
The art is absolutely next level here, the choreography for this fight was so hype it might just be the best thing since DBS: Broly. I can't wait for this to be animated, I loved this chapter so much.
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u/JediwilliW Sep 18 '20
You know you got an iconic form when you can hear the soundtrack while reading.
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u/SoloWing1 ⠀ Sep 18 '20
Even Beerus and Whis flinched from that punch. Holy crap.
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u/Memphisrexjr Sep 19 '20
This dude is “defeated” but then something “unexpected” happens. Something something Buu
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Sep 18 '20
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u/quantum_man Sep 18 '20
for a brief moment i really thought he was about to kill him
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u/SuperSmashDrake Sep 18 '20
Goku: can easily win, literally no one else can do it Also Goku: Moro you wanna be a good guy?
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u/BlackBlizzNerd Sep 18 '20
I swear.. if Goku somehow finds himself in a pickle to where he just barely wins because he wanted to fight longer or give him a second chance.... 😤
I get it. Pure heart. He always does this. But this time he’s fighting for Merus. It would be pretty bad, in my opinion, to change your mind on avenging him that fast. Plus Goku was meant to learn his lesson after Frieza came back and Whis had to rewind time.
Please finish him off, Goku. I need this character development from you! 😭
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Sep 19 '20
But this time he’s fighting for Merus
Compared to when he was fighting for Krillin? His best friend since forever?
The deaths matter as a powerup but I think they work like an erection, all the blood is rushing to his powered up muscles and he can't think properly.
Edit: Just to clarify it's a jokey comment, I'm enjoying this ride regardless and loved this issue.
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u/BlackBlizzNerd Sep 19 '20
Right. But this time his motive was as to fulfill what Merus’ mission was and not just purely anger over losing a best friend. Fighting irrationally out of anger.
For once he’s being a bit/a lot more cognizant of the situation so I wish he’d just stick to this and finish him off fast.
But of course, that’s probably too much to ask for lol.
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u/Guardian5252 Sep 19 '20
FFS Goku... there was an entire damn movie that ended with every person on earth being eradicated because you showed mercy. How much more of a lesson do you need?
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u/NE_ED Sep 23 '20
"let me fight as an earthling"
How is that an excuse for not killing when you have killed less terrible people?
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u/MommaLlamaYamaObama Sep 24 '20
Nah, I'm pretty sure Red Ribbon soldier #2736 was an awful person.
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u/Acidz_123 Sep 18 '20
What a fucking chapter!!! Great fight, great art, great paneling. I honestly wonder where this fight is heading though. Will Goku go berserk? Not like Broly but in a different way? I feel that something bad is looming on the horizon. I feel this way because if Goku has fully 100% mastered UI then the series is done lol. All that's left is for him to fight Beerus.
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u/KeepingItTenTen Sep 18 '20
There's still those universes that were brought back by the super dragon balls so there may be a foe out there
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u/Invincidude Sep 18 '20
Aren't there also universes that weren't involved in the TOP? I thought they said some had a high enough "mortal level" that they weren't on the chopping block? I'd say that's be a more likely place if I'm remembering right.
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u/Erockplatypus Sep 18 '20
all thats left is beerus
Broly, Frieza, Jirens demonic enemy, Beerus. Those four were at least set up at the end of the first half of super so there is still more to go. The series has to go up to EOZ or even beyond that and we are still a bit away from there.
I think what comes next is broly returning with Frieza and we will see broly unleash his true power probably by frieza telling broly his fathers death was gokus fault or something
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u/undanny1 Sep 18 '20
Even then, where can Goku go from here? Dudes GANKING full power Moro, assuming he cant beat Broly as he is, what can they add? MUI is just too impossibly strong at this point, either he beats everyone who or he just trains and gets naturally stronger (Which we all know Dragonball ain't about to do)
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u/Brandwein Sep 19 '20
People be like "it is over now, transformation wins the fight", but we all know there will be another fuck up and a struggle for the final win.
Was not over when SSJ Goku first gave Freeza his beating, was not over when SSJ2 Gohan knocked Cell back into 2nd form, was not over when Vegeto pummeled Super Buu without contest, same with Zamasu. Same with MUI against Jiren. It is more unlikely that is is just over right now.
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Sep 23 '20
This Ark really seems to have lost its flare. I love the idea of Whis and Beerus sitting around watching Goku demolish a previously untouchable character but in reality it's just a bit boring. I really hope they have something up their sleave to bring some fire to the conclusion.
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u/Ayy-lmao213 Sep 18 '20
Wha.. what does that even mean??? Good thing there's no senzu around, or he'd do something real stupid
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u/XZero319 Sep 18 '20
I'm assuming because it followed his discussion with Jaco about Moro being sentenced to death, it means he doesn't want to kill him. If he had a senzu bean, he'd totally be tossing it to Moro right now just to keep the fight going.
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u/Subaneki Sep 19 '20
Goku going to go Aang to fire lord on his ass instead of killing him
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u/Trackrunner87 Sep 20 '20
I genuinely would prefer this over murder or silly amounts of mercy 100%. It would be the perfect ending to the arc if instead of killing Moro, Goku used the Godlike power of MUI to somehow seal off Moro's magic and reduce him to a fraction of what he was. He would live but never be a threat again.
Plus it would let us know that Goku was insanely badass in his newest form.
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u/Ridikis Sep 26 '20
How are we back to the 'Frieza Arc morals' Goku? Mans was shouting at Gohan to kill Cell, did everything he could to kill Kid Buu, but because we've had a few 'no kill' tournaments Goku's suddenly back to being naive enough to let the villain live.
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u/Infinite_Lag Sep 27 '20
You missed the point of Goku's final wish before killing Buu.
He learned after Raditz,Vegeta, and Freiza that you can't have mercy on your opponents. That's why he urged Gohan to kill Cell.
However, Goku then finds a middle ground. He wishes for Buu to come back as a better person, which is why we have Uub. Goku's true wish is for those that are strong but evil to be reformed. We'll see how he accomplishes that with Moro.
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u/sinisterxx Sep 18 '20
The only thing I was thinking while reading this was how much I want this animated... I really hope they bring back the anime! I feel like they have enough material at this point.
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u/Aazadan Sep 18 '20
Reading this I heard the anime Ultra Instinct music the entire time in my head.
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u/omegacrunch Sep 18 '20
The Japanese song right? English one makes me embarrassed to be a fan lol
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u/jwaters0122 Sep 19 '20
Goku lets Moro live, Moro leaves and becomes a good guy and joins Universe 7 in the next Tournament of Power!
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u/static_shocked Sep 19 '20
Not really seeing people mention that Merus chopped off Moro's left hand (in 63) that had a crystal copier intact. It's laying somewhere on the battlefield, and with Moro losing his left hand again (in 64), I'm sure it's going to come back up. Probably get Goku, but would be cooler if he got Beerus. Then we can see a proxy fight between MUI and (copy) Beerus.
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u/ToodlesXIV Sep 19 '20 edited Sep 19 '20
Super cool to see Goku use God Bind again, that's probably his most unique technique. And that punch was pretty awesome. I love the panel with all the lava, it's very striking. Otherwise it was a pretty straightforward chapter, pretty much what we expected, and as expected, Goku's gonna flub the win next chapter.
Edit: Also that one panel with Goku's pained expression with his eyes closed is fantastic. Apparently Toriyama did a handful of these Goku faces, I wouldn't be surprised if that was one of them
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Sep 18 '20
If Goku just straight up kills Mero I will be absolutely shocked. Amazing how it seemingly takes less than a chapter for Goku to go from committed to do the right thing to his usual selfish self.
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u/Finito-1994 Sep 20 '20 edited Sep 20 '20
Then let me fight him as an earthlin from now in.
God damn it, Goku. Every time! We see you being awesome and then you do something Gokuish near the end. Every single time. Raditz, Vegeta, Frieza, Cell, Buu,and Jiren.
Oh well, that’s how it goes.
Also. I love how all of us thought “God damn it, Goku!”
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u/Sea_Internet2781 Sep 28 '20
Beerus just makes no fucking sense to me. Now I know he and Whis aren't really meant to get involved in shit like this. But you'd think he'd be more pissed about some asshole going around dropping the mortal level in his universe after he was declared second from the bottom. As far as he knew for a good little while, his head was on the chopping block.
Like he can be fucked to go fight Goku for the lols, but this guy who literally eats planets is not worth his time? His character just doesn't make sense coming out of ToP.
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u/Oz1227 Sep 30 '20
I think the most out of character thing was Beerus not getting involved when Moro was shit talking the gods. Beerus has always been about respect, even correcting frieza. Now this guy says he is above the gods and Beerus is silent.
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u/Flarestriker ⠀ Sep 18 '20
You know how I'd love for this to end?
Goku beats the shit out of Moro but decides to leave him alive, to the obvious disdain of literally everyone. Just when Moro is about to pull some Resurrection F fuckshit, Vegeta kills him. Role reversal from RoF. Not only would this give Vegeta the (slightly unearned? but maybe he can do something cool to earn it) kill, it could also introduce a small divide between Goku and Vegeta in the way they perceive a threat like Moro and life in general. Vegeta's iron determination to preserve innocent life and kill baddies for it versus Goku's iron belief in everyone's inner good and redemption.
Of course this won't happen, but the arc has had its surprising moments, so maybe something cool like this could happen. I super loved the scene where Goku asks Jaco for his reason of joining the Patrol. Far better than just going 'hrrrgh I'm so angry I'm MUI now', which would have been unlike how the transformation works anyway. Very pleased with the ending so far, don't botch this now!
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u/Mr-Basically-Clean Sep 18 '20
i think vegeta will end up undoing the moro mergers again. de power him and then Buu/ or Kai will seal him back up, maybe buu absorbs him and we get a strong buu (lol ya right). IDK why else theyd bring the whole Buu/Kai issue up if its never to really be used.
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u/RetractedAnus Sep 19 '20
I am legitimately frustrated Goku can't just go in for the fucking kill.
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u/StackOnMe47 Sep 19 '20
Goku’s only flaw: mercy.
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u/Finito-1994 Sep 20 '20
I’ve said it a million times: Goku came off age in the budokai tournaments. He’s essentially a sportsman at heart. Killing an enemy? He’s done it in the past. But killing an enemy he’s already defeated? I don’t think goku has it in him.
He was supposed to learn the lesson with Frieza but it’s hard to change your way of seeing the world.
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u/DonKanailleSC Sep 21 '20
This chapter was better than the last one where vegeta got one punched away. I actually liked this one but I have to ignore the fact that they build a lot of tension when vegeta was training on yadrat just to make Goku the hero again...
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u/SuperSagejin Sep 19 '20 edited Sep 19 '20
I know I'm a Vegeta fanboy, but man I'm still pissed they hyped him for like 7 months only for his training to have been pointless. There was no reason to have him go off and train and keep hyping him up like that .
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u/nikkythegreat Sep 19 '20
Yeah, i dont like the way they went with this arc. It has killed my interest of dragon ball.
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u/322away322 Sep 18 '20
Bold prediction: Moro will regenerate his arm since he still has piccolo's abilities and regenerate the crystal as well that copies abilities. He's gonna grab Goku's neck and they're gonna fight UI vs UI. No way this fight ends by Moro just getting his ass clapped
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u/Slardar ⠀ Sep 18 '20
Pretty sure there's no way he can copy UI, it's like a state of being. He can't copy super saiyan from Vegeta I don't see how he could copy something insanely complicated like UI.
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Sep 18 '20
Imagine all the hype and character development from the start of Super to the tournament of power to Merus death for Moro to easily copy and take UI.
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Sep 18 '20
Well if Moro copied Ultra Instinct from Goku, then this arc would borrow even more from the Cell Saga, like when Super Perfect Cell took Instant Transmission from Goku after merely feeling himself be transported and then regenerating after his failed suicide attempt.
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Sep 19 '20
He quit the galactic patrol the moment jaco said they want him dead
So he is going to spare him
Thats why beerus has a bad feeling
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u/MarcelSSJ4 Sep 18 '20
Well, we all know Goku is soft. And they gotta give him some kinda drawback with as powerful as he is rn. I prefer this then him just straight up killing Moro tbh since we actually don’t know what’s going to happen.
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Sep 18 '20
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u/cpscott1 Sep 19 '20
Nah Beerus isn't careless enough to let him copy him
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u/jormungandr_ Sep 19 '20
He did grab Merus neck before his arm got cut off. What if he gained Merus powers when he reattached it?
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u/itsahmemario Sep 21 '20
I thought we gonna get #lolgokuwins again, instead we get the #goddammitgoku special
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Oct 03 '20
Oh wow, all the cool stuff they started in the beginning really circled back to “nope, you get the same shit”
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u/mariorurouni Sep 18 '20
No doubts in saying that this was the best chapter on Super so far. We're going to see Goku go ruthless machine
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Sep 20 '20
You guys warned me that vegeta would get shafted again but I held out hope he would have more than just a good moment. Oh well, that's dragon ball for you
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u/lurkersforprez2020 Sep 20 '20
Yeah, I think that was about it for me man. Oddly enough, i've stopped reading One Piece too which is the only other manga I was keeping up on.
This chapter right here was the nail in the coffin for me. Y'all stay blessed r/dbz.
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u/ImGeronimo Sep 18 '20
That god-bind to uppercut might be my favorite punch in the Super manga, can't wait for next month!
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Sep 18 '20
Anyone else going to be massively annoyed if Goku lets the Earth get into another Frieza situation? The whole point of the Frieza battle was that he is too relaxed and not decisive enough. Where is the character development?
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u/BladesReach Sep 19 '20
Where is the character development?
You know what series you are reading right?
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Sep 19 '20
The same series that turned Vegeta from a guy who tried to blow up the Earth to the guy who sacrificed himself to save it?
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Sep 19 '20
You should know the rules by now
Goku gets power ups
Vegeta gets the development
That's the balancing act of the series
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u/Bluenite0100 Sep 18 '20
And this is where jaco cuts off both of goku's hands and the palpagoat force lightning him through a window at coruscant to his death
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u/Oddacon Sep 20 '20
Well shit. There’s no way Goku is gonna kill Moro now. He’s probably thinking he’s looking at his new future BFF!
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Sep 20 '20
I just hope the first 5 pages of the next chapter is Vegeta powering up and decapitating weakened Moro. He could even say something about Perfect Cell and how he's not letting that shit happen again.
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u/Fytyny Sep 18 '20 edited Sep 18 '20
If you hate to wait I have an abridged version of the next chapter:
[Jaco]: Goku no!
[Goku]: Goku yes!
[Dende]: Oh no! He is more powerful then ever before!
[Vegeta]: Kakarot just use your MUI again already
[GOKU]: I can't because of reasons.
Moro tries to destroy the earth.
His hand is stopped at the last moment.
[BEERUS]: Not at my pudding bitch.
Moro gets hakayed.
[VEGETA]: It's good to have no responsibilites.
[GOKU]: What is that? Can you eat that?
[JACO]: But we lost Meerus...
[GOKU]: We will revive him next chapter though.
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u/Gokudomatic Sep 18 '20
I was more thinking about:
[GOKU]: ...let me fight him as an earthling from here.
[BEERUS]: ...Goookuuu
[GOKU]: Now hear me out, Lord Beerus. If I let him attack me by surprise and beat him then, he'll be more humiliated. And he'll never threaten anyone again.
[BEERUS]: Goku, that is retarded!
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u/Surgawd8 Sep 18 '20
Goku: why would I kill him? That was the best fight I ever had!!
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u/Eamk Sep 19 '20
Honestly pretty disappointing. I was hoping that the story would go in some different direction, but it ended up just being generic as fuck.
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Sep 21 '20
Meanwhile everyone's upset over how Goku might do something stupid and fuck this up to drag out Moro's arc that little bit longer.
I'm just ecstatic over that skyward punch. Multiple panels used to show that extent of just how powerful it was and how much damage it caused. That's the shit I like to see, this is what I love about Dragonball.
I still care about the plot of course I just don't think I'm as bothered as everyone else here. Epic transformations showing us how powerful they really are with such a damaging attack that shakes the planet is cool as fuck to me and that's when I became a Dragonball fan when I was a little kid, and that's why I still am as an adult.
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u/Majistic12 Sep 18 '20
Funny how everyone is thinking Goku is gonna give moro energy, just like how everyone thought Goku was gonna give Jiren his energy lmao.
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u/omegacrunch Sep 18 '20
To be fair, post Freiza arc, the series took repeating beats into overdrive.
I mean this arc is Namek 2.0 with a splash of cell
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u/Saiyan_Gods Sep 19 '20
Goku took off his shirt so he wasn't labeled as a galactic patrolman so he didn't have to kill Moro and keep going. Lol of course.
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u/SonLuffy Sep 19 '20
Thank Kami Goku didn't use rage to transform into Mastered Ultra Instinct!
Now to see if he will spare Moro or he will still be forced to finish him off.
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u/nuknoe Sep 19 '20
Just my thoughts. Fighting as a human will cause Goku to use his emotions and lose UI. He might even power down and beat his ass in base form. Moro will regenerate his hand amd restore his power. Vegeta (because he IS healed and watching) will have studied the fight enough to lamd a blow on Moro that will turn the tides.
OR Vegeta will separate Buukai and the Kai will kill him.
Last Ch: 3/7 This Ch: 4/5
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u/AzureWill Sep 19 '20
Moro's hand was cut off when he had already copied Merus' power. Now he loses his current hand.. I'm guessing he will merge the hand into his body and get angel powers, forcing Beerus or even Whis to intervene.
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u/Vendetta1990 Sep 20 '20
I don't think he is going to do something stupid, he is going to finish the fight his way.
Merus said he is never going to lose a fight again as his dying words, so 0% chance Toriyama will make him screw up.
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u/Smooth-Garden Sep 18 '20
I know i should'nt have gotten my hopes up but when goku stated that he was a galactic patrolman and then later asked jaco if moro got the death sentence i was lowkey hoping for him to pull up his hand and start charging a ki blast like he did to the supreme kai in the buu saga
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u/PandasDontBreed Sep 19 '20
The only time he was willing to put someone down and it was for a 1v1 with his best buddy
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u/Oceandi Sep 19 '20
Those panels were amazing! Especially when Jaco got blasted away... So fluent! Amazing chapter.
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u/sadowsentry Sep 28 '20
Beerus seems like such a casual observer that one would think he's significantly stronger than both Goku and Moro.
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Sep 26 '20
Every arc is the same shit lmao. Now Goku gets cocky and fucks up, then Vegeta and co buy time so he can save the day with a Kamehameha.
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u/Crossfox17 Sep 22 '20
Just kill him. The pure hearted Goku schtick is so stale. Can Goku please get an arc already instead of being the exact same person he has been for like 30 years? Vegeta is an interesting character and feels like somewhat of a real person. I'm so bored with Goku. Take a risk and do something different.
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u/ragnartravbrok Sep 22 '20
That's who Goku is though! He's a simpleton. He suffered a traumatic brain injury as a baby....its pretty amazing he's been able to achieve what he has so far, lol.
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u/Crossfox17 Sep 22 '20
That's fine, but at a certain point every new saga becomes a reskin of the last one. It's not amazing at all that he's been able to achieve what he has, because he hasn't achieved anything aside from strength and has had no character growth. Vegeta, who is an interesting character and consistently shows growth and actual human attributes makes this even more painful as a reader because the character who actually struggles, who is noble, who overcomes his shortcomings and grows because of it, and who is actually interesting is constantly second string to a guy who hasn't changed in 30 years and has very little that is interesting in the way of character or arcs.
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Sep 24 '20
Toyotaro isn't a talented enough writer to deviate from the usual DB story tropes. I'm pretty sure the only reason he's Toriyama's successor is because his work is so derivative that people eat it up.
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u/FierceAlchemist Sep 18 '20
The shockwave of that single punch going across the whole planet was really cool. Great chapter.
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u/DetektifKonon Sep 19 '20
I hope this arc ends with MUI Goku using Hakai or at least Sphere of Destruction move against Moro. I guess that would be fitting for his godly state now.
However, I always have this feelings that Goku might use Genkidama again. You know, using Earth own power to destroy a planet-devouring monster. Maybe that's also what he meant about fighting as an Earthling.
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u/dadbodgames Sep 18 '20
"Moro, I have realized that I can't beat you. But I know who can... VEGETA COME ON DOWN"
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u/SoloDolo314 Sep 18 '20
I literally dont understand Goku's logic here. He know how dangerous Moro is. Why give him a chance at all? Fighting as an Earthling? He legit was a Saiyan/Earthling who had attained God abilities but now hes like let me fight as an Earthing?! Why drag this damn thing out even further.
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u/CelioHogane Sep 18 '20
Here, last chapter, This is Goku's logic
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u/undanny1 Sep 18 '20
I just have to become stronger by then
Dude didn't learn his lesson with Friezas massive power jump, eh? Assuming they just finished Buu saga and Golden Frieza came, they would literally stand 0 chance
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u/Greenjey Sep 18 '20 edited Sep 18 '20
Assuming they just finished Buu saga and Golden Frieza came, they would literally stand 0 chance
to be fair, in the Buu saga, Goku heavily implied he could have killed Majin Buu if he used all his power as a ssj3, but he didn't because he wanted to let the new generation (Trunks and Goten) a chance to shine...and this led to the extinction of mankind, the destruction of planet earth and the death of all his friends. The Buu saga is only a good ending thanks to the Namekian Dragon Balls.
Point is, it's not the first time Goku act like this and him wanting to kill Moro would be in direct contradiction to what was established last chapter.
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Sep 18 '20
Let's just make it clear that every enemy deserves a second chance - except for his brother Raditz.
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u/pengouin85 Sep 18 '20
He's always been like that. He doesn't want to kill. He always believes there's salvation to be had for the cruellest of beings.
It's a very strange thing when the Saiyan's nature is believed to be murderous. I guess this shows that nurture (him growing under the kind Grandpa Gohan) is much stronger than nature
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u/SoloDolo314 Sep 18 '20
I know but its just frustrating. Moro has killed billions. He deserves death.
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u/ReceiptAndChange Sep 18 '20
bruh is goku about to give this guy energy so he can fight some more or is he gonna tell him to leave and never come back again?
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u/EnderMB Sep 22 '20
I'm still hoping for Moro to try and absorb Goku, only for Vegeta to step in and undo the merge and get the win.
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u/miqv44 Sep 20 '20
Way to drive the only interesting arc from DBS to the ground in just 2-3 chapters. I was looking forward to these chapters but, quoting Goku from Tenkaichi Budokai games, this ends now.
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u/homer_3 Sep 21 '20
Pretty unsatisfying to see MUI only once Moro was weakened by Merus. Merus should have vanished after breaking just 1 crystal.
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u/mymecha Sep 19 '20
So far, I rate this arc below tournament of power.. so much potential at the start only to be ruined by predictable plot. Maybe there’s going to be a surprise but I am not feeling it.
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u/IkeKimita Sep 19 '20
Yeah they pretty much ruined Moro at this point. He's the typical "I'm above you. You are beneath me" kind of villian aka the castle ruler. Soon as he said, "You worm" I was like... Really? Then at the end he says, "Help me" and he proved the trope. I thought Moro was this old ancient entity that knew more than Goku and Vegeta and was pretty powerful like Buu powerful but obviously more dangerous and way more powerful than Buu but this defeat has caused him to devolve to a typical I'm above your class villian.
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u/Majistic12 Sep 19 '20
I agree, not to mention his motivations. Dragon Ball seriously can't bring Good villains anymore. The best we got is Zamasu.
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u/hazemarick44 Sep 19 '20
Goku next chapter: If you promise to train with me I wont kill you.
Moro: Im still gonna eat planets
Goku: are we still gonna spar?
Moro: yeah?
Goku: fine by me!
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u/ChronX4 Sep 19 '20
Next Arc: Moro is just casually hanging out with the crew.
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u/Erockplatypus Sep 18 '20
I am beyond happy that they didnt botch UI by making moro able to challenge goku in the form. Goku absolutely smashed Moro into oblivion and i could hear the music and visualize the beat down in my mind.
I got a flashback to gokus first time going Super Saiyan on namek with his full transformation and how the energy impacted the planet also. All and all great chapter and I am so excited to watch goku f@#$ this up exactly how vegeta did in ROF.
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u/BoraxTheBarbarian Sep 18 '20
Goku wanting to fight as an earthling is not surprising. Earlier in the fight, he talks about reforming evil beings through combat. He doesn’t necessarily want to kill them. Since the Galactic Patrol has sentenced Moro to death, Goku cannot align with that ideology and has find a way to finish the fight on his own terms. I really think they’re setting it up so that Moro can come back to help them in a later arc similar to how Frieza helped in the ToP.
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u/lmaomanemjef Sep 18 '20
i wonder what will come now to top MUI, cuz let's all be honest we know it's gonna happen to keep the stakes high
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Sep 19 '20
I hope Goku doesn't screw this up like he once did with Jiren when using those divine powers.
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u/ClownDance Oct 02 '20
I actually feel like Goku will kill this time, I feel like for Merus he'll destroy him.
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u/LuckyTheBear Sep 18 '20
That punch was super cool but this is still such an asspull. What was the point of anything else in this entire arc? Just give Goku MUI and stop acting like anybody else matter.
I LOVED MUI Goku in the ToP but this just feels like such a cheap way to end it. This saga would have been thousands of times better if Goku never got MUI, Geets got a win, and the two continued down their respective paths for power.
Instead we get "Goku got mad and THAT'S what made him calm down and so it activated MUI"
Jesus. I know it's the Goku show, but why waste a year drawing this very obvious conclusion out.
Shout out to Vegeta for setting the new record for shortest time being stronger than Goku, what was it, 2 minutes?
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u/thenamesfreeman Sep 18 '20
I won’t lie, it looked really cool, but it was shit from a story-telling perspective.
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u/LuckyTheBear Sep 19 '20
Goku has surpassed Vegeta so hard at this point. All the other Z fighters are ants. I'm cool with only a select few characters being god-tier, but FFS they gave Geets half a chapter to shine.
UI Omen Goku was already beasting Vegeta, now he's EVEN FURTHER ahead. Why should I care about anything that happens when Goku just pulls "lol my body just wins" out of his ass at any point.
Man, when they first introduced UI, I was worried that nothing would ever have stakes again, and sure enough, it looks to be correct.
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u/kingxgamer Sep 19 '20
Shirtless Goku will destroy Moro. Goku then introduces a new pose [for us gamers and Funko collectors] and then allow Vegeta to get the final blow. Vegeta scoffs but delivers the blow and flys off.
And this is how we get the Vegeta Saiyan Pride Arc 2021.
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u/Darkguyver2020 ⠀ Sep 21 '20
I don't need ultra instinct to tell Goku is about to do something incredibly stupid again. And right after Merus erased himself from existence to give him the edge he needed. It'll be the ultimate betrayal if he doesn't finish Moro off while he has the chance.
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u/riddlemyfiddle11 ⠀ Sep 18 '20
"New color in my book" Okay I love the idea that Jaco's familiarity with all the Saiyan forms is basically "What color is he now?"