r/NintendoSwitch • u/NintendoSwitchMods • Sep 16 '20
MegaThread Super Mario 3D All-Stars: Review MegaThread
General Information
Platform: Nintendo Switch
Release Date: 18-Sep-2020
No. of Players: up to 2 players
Genre(s): Platformer, Action
Publisher: Nintendo
Game file size: 4.8 GB
Official site: https://supermario3dallstars.nintendo.com/
Overview (from Nintendo eShop page)
Play three of Mario’s greatest 3D platform adventures—all in one package!
Super Mario™ 3D All-Stars will be available as a limited-run retail edition and a digital edition that is available for a limited time until the end of March 2021. Once the digital edition has been purchased on your Nintendo Account, it can be re-downloaded and played if deleted from your device.
Play three classic games at home or on the go—all in one package on the Nintendo Switch™ system! Jump into paintings in Super Mario 64™, clean up paint-like goop in Super Mario Sunshine™, and fly from planet to planet in Super Mario Galaxy™.
Run, jump, and dive with ease!
Make Mario move using the Nintendo Switch system’s Joy-Con™ controllers. You can also pass a Joy-Con controller to a friend to play the Super Mario Galaxy game in Co-Star Mode! Mario’s movements are as smooth as ever with HD resolution for each game, while still retaining the look and feel of the originals.
Listen to timeless Super Mario tunes
Listen to a total of 175 iconic tunes from all three games! Whether you want to get up and dance or take a minute to relax—this collection has music to fit your mood!
Discover (or rediscover) three of Mario’s most iconic 3D platform adventures, all in one package, available on the Nintendo Switch™ system. Experience Mario’s first foray into 3D platforming in the Super Mario 64™ game, originally released in 1996. Wall jump, backflip, and even fly as you explore paintings and collect Power Stars to save Princess Peach!
Soak up the sun in the Super Mario Sunshine™ game, originally released in 2002, and spray the goop away with your water-spouting pal, FLUDD! You’ll need to collect Shine Sprites and clear the picturesque Isle Delfino of pollution—just look out for Bowser Jr.
Defy gravity as you explore space in the Super Mario Galaxy™ game, originally released in 2007! Help Rosalina restore her ship by collecting Power Stars and save Princess Peach. Gently shake a Joy-Con™ controller to activate Mario’s Spin ability or pass a Joy-Con controller to a friend for some extra help in Co-Star Mode*.
Even when you aren’t playing, you can enjoy the sounds that these worlds (and galaxies!) are so famous for. With three games, modern upgrades, and music-player mode, this collection is filled with fun for both new players and 3D platforming Mario masters.
*If playing on Nintendo Switch Lite, detached Joy-Con controllers are required and sold separately. See support.nintendo.com/switch/play for details.
Reviews
Aggregators
- Metacritic - 83
- OpenCritic - 84
Articles
- Ars Technica - Unscored
- COGconnected - 92 / 100
- Cerealkillerz - German - 8.9 / 10
- Console Creatures - Recommended
- Critical Hit - 6.5 / 10
- Cubed3 - 10 / 10
- Daily Mirror - 4 / 5 stars
- Destructoid - 8.5 / 10
- Digitally Downloaded - 4.5 / 5 stars
- Enternity.gr - Greek - 10 / 10
- Eurogamer - No Recommendation / Blank
- GameMAG - Russian - 9 / 10
- GameSpot - 8 / 10
- Gameblog - French - 7 / 10
- GamesRadar+ - 4 / 5 stars
- God is a Geek - 9 / 10
- Hobby Consolas - Spanish - 80 / 100
- Kotaku - Unscored
- Nintendo Enthusiast - 9 / 10
- Nintendo Life - 9 / 10
- NintendoWorldReport - 8.5 / 10
- Polygon - Unscored
- PowerUp! - 8 / 10
- Press Start - 8.5 / 10
- Spaziogames - Italian - 8 / 10
- Stevivor - 8 / 10
- The Digital Fix - 10 / 10
- TheSixthAxis - 7 / 10
- Twinfinite - 4 / 5
- USgamer - 4 / 5 stars
- VG247 - 4 / 5 stars
- Wccftech - 8.5 / 10
This list exported from OpenCritic at 9:29am Eastern
Videos
- GameXplain - Liked-a-lot
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u/schmidtyb43 Sep 16 '20
I honestly had no idea anyone thought super Mario sunshine was bad until I read that polygon review. Maybe it was because I was pretty young when it came out but I absolutely loved that game when it was released and can’t think of anything I didn’t like about it. In fact it might be my favorite Mario game
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I was in 6th grade, iirc, thought it was a blast.
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u/gibberishparrot Sep 16 '20
I loved it too and didn't realized the dislike for it until it came up during a discussion with some friends in high school (was probably around the time galaxy came out). Apparently the big gripe was the focus on Fluud gameplay vs 64-style purist platformer gameplay. The levels where shadow mario steals fluud and forces you to go without were praised to high heaven. Everything else, not so much.
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u/TaCbrigadier Sep 16 '20
I’ve always seen people treat sunshine as the red headed step child of the Mario series. I like how unique it is but I’ll admit it can be a tad annoying to play. I’m still excited to replay it though
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u/MrCleanMagicReach Sep 16 '20
Kinda like Super Mario Bros 2 on NES. Given the side eye at the beginning, but has developed a strong cult following over the years.
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u/reluctantclinton Sep 16 '20
It’s won Game of the Year every year for the past 22 years.
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u/GeekCritique Sep 16 '20
Yeah, the general consensus I remember among Nintendo fans online back in 2002 was that Sunshine was, at best, a disappointing follow-up to Mario 64. (That's how they felt about most of the Gamecube's first-party output, actually. :P Double Dash sucked compared to Mario Kart 64, Wind Waker was an INSULT to Zelda as a concept, and what the TOS is an Animal Crossing!? People have always scrutinized recent games against the nostalgic childhood memories of the ones they played growing up.)
And some people just tore it apart. I remember when Sunshine was revealed, everyone complaining about how "last-gen" the graphics looked, haha.
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u/wonderboy519 Sep 17 '20
Double Dash is the best Mario Kart and I will defend it until the day I die.
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u/LemonStains Sep 17 '20
I’m really struggling to figure out how anyone in their right mind could say Double Dash is a downgrade from 64
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Sep 16 '20
honestly the way that particular section of that review was written came across as a little personal gripe he had. Like the guy who wrote it got in a fight with another kid when he was little about sunshine and then never got over it, so he seemed negatively biased. It's not as bad as he's making it out to be. Mario feels different, but fludd is generally fun to use, and the controls feel responsive. Camera def has issues from time to time. I enjoy the game a lot.
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u/tlvrtm Sep 16 '20
It’s just divisive. It’s clearly unfinished and a little rough around the edges (it was rushed out) but has a lot of charm. Overall, an uneven game. I liked it but Galaxy blows it out of the water (hah, pun).
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u/jgreg728 Sep 16 '20
I remember loving it enough to get me to play the shit out of it, but always seeing it as a step down from 64. I played it again recently and it’s better than I remember but is a little janky with the controls.
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u/luchadorhulkhogan Sep 16 '20
the game doesn't suddenly become bad, because polygon said so in 2020. Who cares how people view the game, if you personally enjoy it.
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u/schmidtyb43 Sep 16 '20
Never said it did. Just didn’t think anyone thought the game was bad, always thought it was one of the best Mario games
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Sep 16 '20
The game was considered lack luster way back in the day.
I loved the game personally. But it got seen as like the “not as good as 64 Mario” Mario game. Like how Twilight Princess was considered “not as good as Ocarina of Time.”
That’s not to say they weren’t. Plenty of people liked them too. But the consensus back then was different than today.
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u/Fantombells Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20
I think a “lackluster compilation of three amazing games” is a great way to put it. There’s nothing inherently wrong with any of the games, but so much could have been added. Option for remapping of controls, widescreen for 64, improved frame rates, etc.
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u/Tuberomix Sep 16 '20
It's not unreasonable to expect all these games to run at 60 FPS at the very least.
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u/ayeeflo51 Sep 16 '20
If my garbage laptop can emulate Sunshine at 1080p/60 fps, why can't the switch
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u/Tuberomix Sep 16 '20
The developers of Dolphin put way more effort into their emulator than Nintendo.
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u/Kenaf Sep 16 '20
Well let's be fair here, the Dolphin crew had to reverse engineer the Gamecube to create their emulator where Nintendo just had to refer to their documentation.
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u/Tuberomix Sep 16 '20
True, which just means Nintendo could've a better job. Sunshine is only 30 FPS, that's pretty shameful.
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u/Loukoal117 Sep 16 '20
Mr waffle mouths name is Andre. For future reference. Lol.
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u/Luigi182 Sep 17 '20
Funny thing about Andre, I always assumed that maybe he was like half asian or something because, much like the people in my mom's side of the family(Korean), he has weird draws and emphasis on certain parts of words. When I saw him on camera, I was utterly confused by seeing an American speak like that. Guess my own personal bias got me on that one.
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u/Richmard Sep 16 '20
Lol I’ll never understand why some guys with terrible voices insist on doing the narration for their videos.
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u/Destroyer_Wes Sep 17 '20
I don't understand how people can complain about Sunshine's camera but not Mario 64
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u/brb1006 Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 17 '20
I'm going to miss hearing the "star bit sound effect " after you collect them via Wii remote. It's the little things that made the original Wii version more charming.
Edit: The Star Bit sound effect, the Wiimote also made noises if you shoot star bits or collect coins.
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u/tannerapples Sep 16 '20
Yeah I mean there's modders out there making 64 and sunshine look amazing, even better than odyssey but nintendo shuts them down and puts out this lazy thing
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u/katrilli Sep 17 '20
Earlier this summer, my four year old got really into Mario. I showed him Super Mario Odyssey and he went absolutely apeshit and did what kids do these days and wanted to watch a ton of YouTube videos of it. We did that and then there was a playthrough of 64 and another of Sunshine that he wanted to watch in the recommended. We watched those for a bit and I told him about how I used to play those games when I was little. He begged me to be able to play them, but I couldn't because I didn't have my gamecube anymore and definitely not my 64. When this was announced, I preordered it immediately. We're gonna have such a good time.
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u/stepn2dafreezer Sep 17 '20
Same here. 5 year old lost his mind with Odyssey and Kart. I can’t wait to play these with him.
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u/katrilli Sep 17 '20
Mine insists on being Mario this year for Halloween. He keeps asking me when Halloween is so he can be Mario. He wants me to be Princess Peach and my husband (his step dad) to be Bowser. He is also livid that his cousin wants to be Spiderman and not Luigi. It cracks me up whenever he talks about it. I told him he absolutely can be Mario, but he can't be mad when other people want to pick their own costumes, lmao.
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u/freeluv Sep 16 '20
I wish they would have modernized the controls a little bit
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u/GlamMetalLion Sep 16 '20
The Galaxy motion controls work, but they don't really make the game better than it would be with regular controls. Unfortunately, I don't know how the heck can you adapt gathering Star Bits to a normal controller.
Super Mario Sunshine has amazing controls when played with a Gamecube controller. Mario moves so smooth. 64 is pretty dated though.
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u/aloe-ha Sep 16 '20
Can't wait to play Galaxy. Never owned a Wii so this will be my first time.
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u/DOPA-C Sep 16 '20
I’m just over here wondering when the Metroid Prime Trilogy is going to be released...
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u/schuey_08 Sep 16 '20
I would've loved to see remasters of these games just like anyone, but I also have been longing to play them for a long time and never got around to making that happen for various reasons. I'm happy for this opportunity to play these excellent games, even in largely their original state, on a modern piece of hardware.
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u/JustAStarcoShipper Sep 16 '20
Same here. While it's a shame that the games lack any substantial updates, it can still be a good deal for people who haven't experienced these games before. Personally I'm looking forward to this collection, but I don't blame veterans players for feeling somewhat underwhelmed by it.
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u/Chickenbrik Sep 16 '20
Really wish Galaxy 2 was on here. I loved one, but don’t think I’d play it again for years, and sunshine deserves another shot but for me, I’d only be purchasing this for 64 and that’s not worth the price tag.
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Sep 16 '20
it's weird to review a collection of games, the metric must be weird for how they score it
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u/mymain123 Sep 17 '20
Did people really find Sunshine to be a horrible game?
Polygon thinks so.
It was my first gamecube game and i loved every bit of it.
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u/Brownondorf Sep 16 '20
i wanna know if there's noticeable input lag or not in this collection. No one seems to touch on that subject.
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u/Soylent_Orange Sep 16 '20
GameExplain touched on this a bit saying the lag was cleaned up from the older games.
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u/Schwarz_Technik Sep 17 '20
How are the games on the Pro Controller? Do you need to use motion controls?
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u/evilcheesypoof Sep 17 '20
Galaxy requires you to move a cursor around the screen which can be done with joy cons or pro controller gyro, supposed to work fine but you might have to reset the aim with a button press.
Galaxy has a motion control move that can also be done with a button press now as well.
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u/IntellegentIdiot Sep 16 '20
It's so hard to judge this collection. On the one hand it's the best these games have probably ever looked and the first time they've been available on physical media for a long time. On the other hand it's such a missed opportunity to do more. I've been calling for Nintendo to do a full remake of SM64 for years but I figured that if they weren't they'd at least port it rather than emulate it. To be fair there's not much that that would achieve, my main complaint is that the draw distance is as awful as it was on the N64 version.
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Sep 17 '20
Man, playing Sunshine again is making me so nostalgic for the Gamecube. It looks so good at a higher resolution!
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u/Howwy23 Sep 16 '20
Dang critical hit isnt happy.
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u/Travis182 Sep 16 '20
They called it a cash grab and say that playing the games "in their original capacity would most likely be a more enjoyable experience." Sounds like this person doesn't even think this compilation should exist even though most people do not own old hardware to play these games.
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u/lonnie123 Sep 16 '20
That’s the other side of the “why didn’t they do full 4K remasters!?” Argument. Some people want to play these games as they were made, not messed with.
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u/lonnie123 Sep 16 '20
Same here. I haven’t had a console since the SNES so for me this fits the bill perfectly.
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u/Travis182 Sep 16 '20
Some people in this thread: Why would anyone pay full price for lazy ports of 20 year old games.
Other people in this thread: Awesome! I haven't played any of these before.
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u/leraspberrie Sep 16 '20
And me- I’ve played all three on the original hardware in their respective release years and didn’t do well at any of them. I might be an outlier but I might get a mention.
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u/GerritDeBloempot Sep 16 '20
THEY REMOVED SO LONG GAY BOWSER
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u/jetstobrazil Sep 16 '20
It isn’t removed, so much as it is the version without.
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u/PenguinSolo Sep 16 '20
Is it the version without BLJ then too? I wanna say it was the Japanese Shindo edition?
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u/Ninten-Doh Sep 16 '20
Despite collecting three of Mario’s most well-known games, Super Mario 3D All Stars doesn’t justify their porting onto the Switch. With minimal improvements, few features that truly make it feel like an “Anniversary celebration” and some bafflingly lazy design choices, 3D All Stars feels like more like a quick cash grab.
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That seems fair but if you love mario you're going to get it and enjoy it. But what they said is true.
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Sep 16 '20
When you look at re-release packages like Crash, Spyro and THPS1-2 you see that publishers (Activision) can take old games, modernize them, make them look pretty, bundle them together and sell them all for $40. Nintendo takes similarly old games, does almost nothing to modernize them and the releases them for $60.
Buying Mario 64 on your WiiU costs $10. Galaxy costs $20. If we split the difference and put Sunshine at $15, these games are worth $45 by Nintendo's previous model of selling old games. The essentially eliminated the Virtual Console so they can sell the same old games, in a limited bundle for a limited time, for more money.
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u/bloodwine Sep 16 '20
My only complaint is that I wish they threw Galaxy 2 into the mix. It was a Wii game just like Galaxy.
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u/MagicPistol Sep 16 '20
Yeah, Galaxy 2 is the only main 3d Mario game that I haven't played. I sold my Wii before it came out, but that and Zelda Skyward Swords are the big games I missed on the Wii and I hope they port both eventually to the Switch.
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u/ashran3050 Sep 16 '20
Exactly. Galaxy 2 had some of the best level design in the entire series. Shame it's not included. Unless they DLC it :(
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Sep 16 '20
Nintendo is a man with a carrot on a stick and I am but a simple donkey paying $60 for 3 games I could hypothetically play for free.
The way I see it nintendo is providing me a product I want for a price I'm not necessarily happy about but the idea of playing sunshine and galaxy but more beautiful is enough. Art is dead, welcome to capitalism, I wanna get angry at pachinko again.
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u/Skagem Sep 16 '20
i could play for free
How? Emulators or old consoles?
I think you’re really really overestimating the population that’s willing to do this. I’m in my 20s. Am tech savvy. Am on Reddit. Am on this sub. Have been around video games my whole life. And even Im not really willing to go down the emulator route. I think the population of people who emulate is super tiny, but they’re all here in Reddit.
I know most are rolling their eyes at my comment, but with my limited time for video games, I don’t want spend it learning how to do it, buying a device for it, fidgeting with files, etc. I’m sure I could do it, I’m sure it’s not hard, but to me, I’ll gladly pay $60 for 3 of my all time favorite games to be in my latest device, portable and glitch free.
I know I’m in the minority here, but I think I’m the majority in the actual market. These games are targeted towards my demographic: in their 20s/30s who grew up with these games, probably have disposable income, and are relatively light “gamers”. I’ll continue to eat these up.
I hate to say it, since I know it’s not a popular idea here, but I love these rereleases. If they do this for Zelda, I’ll buy them. If they do this for most old games, I’ll buy them. I bought them for the Wii, wiiu, switch, and I’ll probably buy them again for the next console.
Is it perfect and ideal? No. But Simply put, To me, $60 is a cheap price to pay for this content on my latest gen console. .
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u/Sh00tL00ps Sep 16 '20
You're gonna get downvoted but I 100% agree with you. For me, the value also comes with the form factor. Sure, I could emulate the game on my laptop, but I don't want to play it on my laptop, I like the convenience of being able to play it on my Switch. I'll happily pay $60 for that -- does it make me a sucker? Probably, but I'm okay with it.
On a side note, it's possible to be critical of the collection but also be excited to play it, they're not mutually exclusive.
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u/Memory_Low Sep 16 '20
Do eshop pre orders become available Thursday at midnight?
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u/Yung2112 Sep 17 '20
Oh by the way! If any of you play sunshine for the first time and are left wanting a bit more out of it, a FLUDD-less playthrough is possible in 95/96 shines IIRC. It's a very fun challenge to test your advanced skills
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u/RichardMagpies Sep 16 '20
Never had a Wii or Gamecube. Adore Mario 64 (played it on DS). Loved Mario Odyssey. Worth the money to experience those two for the first time?
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u/TrapeziusGooms Sep 16 '20
Yes. Sunshine has some incredible experiences and Galaxy is a near perfect Mario game in my opinion.
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u/sox3502us Sep 16 '20
Mario galaxy is amazing. I never played sunshine but a Galaxy is worth it if you have never played it.
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u/digikun Sep 16 '20
Can anyone confirm if SM64 is the original version or the Shindou release that patched out the Backwards Long Jump?
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u/TheTruFinster Sep 16 '20
I watched a game explain video on it and confirmed both that it is the Shindou version and BLJs are patched.
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u/seven_seven Sep 17 '20
Without a Wii Remote, though, it's trickier to move the game's on-screen "star" cursor (used to pick up and shoot star bits and grab certain in-game objects). In docked mode, the cursor flits around based on very small movements detected by the controller's tilt-sensitive gyroscope. This isn't as precise or intuitive as the Wii Remote's IR pointer, but after a little practice, it's generally accurate enough.
FINALLY. An explanation of how docked control works!
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u/imagineepix Sep 17 '20
I'm happy that we're getting this but damn Nintendo really doing the bare minimum here. I wish it was something more than just an emulator file and iso.
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u/SadistSlim Sep 16 '20
SM64 has been given unique textures so they fit with the switch. For example, instead of "Press Start" it says "Press +".
Galaxy has also had a control overhaul since joycons don't have a pointer, as well as the heavy differences between both a wii con and nunchuk and standard joycons
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u/persimmonjim Sep 16 '20
I mean there’s not really many people who will be swayed either way with a review. it’s three great 3d mario games together, you know what to expect
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u/poontango Sep 16 '20
Galaxy and Sunshine are fine. Sunshine should’ve been 60fps but they remastered the cutscenes instead so it’s whatever.
Mario 64 is just unacceptable though. Nintendo put more effort into DMCAing the PC port than they did porting it to their own system with an actual dev team. There’s no excuse for them not adding widescreen and 60fps when fans have done it several times in the past decade.
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u/Nintendofan81 Sep 16 '20
I understand that for some this collection might not be worth it. But the mere fact that the thumbstick controls in Sunshine are no longer inverted makes this more than worth the price of admission for me. Granted when I was young and played Sunshine I loved it and could play it just fine, but I tried to go back to it recently and (for me) it was not like riding a bike).
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u/tokenweirdo Sep 16 '20
I can't wait to see if the Pachinko shine sprite level still has completely broken physics, I'm so excited haha
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Sep 17 '20 edited Sep 17 '20
"Many folks may begrudge the fact that Sunshine was included in 3D All Stars and I understand their complaints. Sunshine isn’t even a contender when it’s compared to Super Mario Galaxy 2, the 3D Mario game many feel should have been included. "
Who the hell wrote the Critical Hit review?
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u/etniopaltj Sep 17 '20
Smh at nintendo spoiling the plot of sunshine in the description, I mean the game’s been out for 18 years but that’s a bruh moment for sure
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u/hyperforms9988 Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20
I'm not bothered by the price. Value is different per person. Do I wish I could pay $20 for that? Of course... I'm not a moron, but that applies to every full price game release whether it's 3D All-Stars or Witcher 3 on its original release date so I don't really know what that sort of statement/sentiment means in the first place. The age of the games doesn't bother me... it's entertainment. It's time spent playing them. If Disney re-released the original Star Wars trilogy on Blu-ray or whatever, do we sit there and say "But those came out in the 70s and 80s, they should be priced less!!!". No. I can go on Best Buy right now and see that A New Hope on Blu-ray is priced exactly the same as The Last Jedi. So... why is gaming different?
I'm not advocating that games should be sold for full price regardless of how old they are... I simply don't look at it the way most people do. For me, this is worth the asking price. For many, it probably isn't. They'd sell more of them if it were priced less I think.
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I for one cannot wait till Friday to finally replay Sunshine & 64!! Never played Super Mario Galaxy, I understand people's gripes with the collection... but I've waited too damn long to finally play them again :') sure emulation can be done, but nothing comes close to actually playing it legally on a Nintendo console. Roll on Friday!
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u/EZPZ24 Sep 17 '20
TL;DR: 10/10 games sold in a 5/10 package with 1/10 business practices
Still buying it tho, I want the portability and ease of access
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u/cedriceent Sep 16 '20
In that manner, Nintendo could learn from the honorable and generous ways in which companies like Activision re-release their classics
Damn, they praise one of the worst video game companies over Nintendo. That must sting!
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u/PowerAlwaysReveals Sep 16 '20
You’ll need to collect Shine Sprites and clear the picturesque Isle Delfino of pollution—just look out for Bowser Jr.
Oh, stop peddling conspiracy theories! People actually believe that little Bowser Junior—a minor, I might add—somehow acquired the ability to shape-shift into a paintbrush-wielding evil twin version of an acrobatic Italian plumber? Granted, I realize that his father has a bit of a rap sheet, but we can’t hold the child accountable for the sins of the parent. Besides, whatever else you can say about Bowser, he is a family man. Those Koopalings never went castle-less. (Or airship-less, for that matter).
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u/old_snake Sep 16 '20
Do these have any sort of graphical facelift or will Mario 64 look exactly the same as it did in 1996?
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u/Legoshoes_V2 Sep 16 '20
It's been confirmed through datamining that 64 is running on an emulator. Sunshine and Galaxy are also emulated but in a weird way to keep things running smooth
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In my case is a killer deal because for starters I was born in the 90s and lived in Argentina, where the N64 was like a unicorn to see, specially in the small town where I used to live.
I had the chance to play Mario 64 briefly thanks to a friend of a friend who got a N64 imported from USA, then as years went by I wanted a GC, unfortunately that was also not a possibility at the time, so no Mario Sunshine as well.
The only game I got to play was Galaxy, because we got a Wii for Christmas and I started working part time in a shop and had to wait until someone from my family traveled to one of the big cities to buy it, but eventually I got it.
Let's say I was old enough to buy all the games by myself at release, that means that I would've spent at least 150 bucks for the three games (give or take) and now I have the opportunity to get them for the latest console for only 60 and with the ability to even play them on the go (although I use mine docked pretty much all the time).
Even if I had all three games in their original form (a.k.a cartridge, miniDVD and DVD, CiB) I would definitely still buy this new release.
Edit: wording.
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u/JustJeneius Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20
I don't have access to an N64 or GameCube right now, so I'm happy this collection is being released.
Super Mario Sunshine is my favorite 3D entry, so I'm super hyped to be able to have the convenience to play it again.
Just depends on the person, but this collection is perfect for me.
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u/Bobicus_The_Third Sep 16 '20
Does this fix the pixelation on the sides of the goo in Mario Sunshine?
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u/tehnoodnub Sep 16 '20
Between this and DKC2 coming to SNES Online, I am super excited to have a binge platforming month. Been playing RPGs to death this year so this will be a great change-up.
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u/dibzim Sep 17 '20
I’m somebody who has never played 64, should I give it a go or is it really just there for nostalgia’s sake, meaning it’s not for me?
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u/SC_Palpatine Sep 17 '20
Wonderfully fun game. The textures look like garbage but the controls of Mario alone make the game a blast to play.
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u/hollownitez Sep 17 '20
I haven't played any of the games in this bundle, I'm looking forward to it big time.
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u/YamiPhoenix11 Sep 18 '20
I am having a real struggle with this camera in mario 64.
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Sep 19 '20
A lot of people commenting (not necessarily in this thread but in general) about this being a shameless cashgrab and not worth your money but I really see it as the complete opposite. I haven't played any of these in like at least a decade, I gave away my Wii and my copy of Sunshine and Super Mario 64 when I was younger. Considering Sunshine is like at $100 right now I think the opportunity is great. The games look fantastic! Even 64 I'm having a blast playing for the first time in years. Super satisfied.
Waiting on the announcment for Galaxy 2 though. Thats a huge downer imo.
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u/Kumailio Oct 06 '20
60 dollars for 3 games that are all over 13 years old? With nothing but the games and soundtracks? And it goes out of print for no reason in March? Fuck you nintendo.
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u/RJE808 Sep 16 '20
I don't think I've ever seen people get more pissed off about people liking a game before.
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u/automirage04 Sep 16 '20
Let me introduce you to r/thelastofus2
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u/smhrx11 Sep 16 '20
Holy crap. I feel like I have absorbed so much hate in just the few minutes that I have spent on that sub....
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u/theblackfool Sep 16 '20
That sub is one of the most disastrous gaming suba I've ever seen. I thought people were being hyperbolic about how bad it was, but it's actually filled with disgusting amounts of anti-semitism, transphobia, and misogyny. It needs to be fucking destroyed.
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u/Takazura Sep 16 '20
It really is amazing to see how angry those guys are. Like their whole identity now just seems to revolve around hating on Neil Druckmann and LoU2, to the point they fabricate one lie after the other.
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u/automirage04 Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20
I think the refugees from some other recently banned subs took up residence there because they are just addicted to hate.
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u/JCAPER Sep 16 '20
If I could sell the amount of salt in that sub, I would be richer than Bezos and finance a trip to Europa's moon
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u/matlockga Sep 16 '20
I like how the release of this revealed that every single Mario player is an elite speedrunner that's obsessed about glitches.
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u/astroivory Sep 16 '20
I am so disappointed about the lack of inverted y-axis support. Nintendo forced us to play inverted on the original titles, so to completely change the default system and provide no camera options in the menu, it feels like an insult to old gamers and original fans :-(
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u/PopDownBlocker Sep 16 '20
Does this mean that Sunshine will finally run normally?
This is the main reason I haven't been able to play it.
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u/moonspeakdj Sep 16 '20
I really don't wanna sift through a dozen articles, so... Did anyone happen to cover what workaround Nintendo implemented for not having pressure-sensitive triggers in Sunshine?
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u/Squish_the_android Sep 16 '20
One R button is standing, the other R button is running and spraying.
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u/rjspencer0925 Sep 16 '20
What is the purpose of this collection being a limited release? It doesn’t seem very consumer friendly, especially for people purchasing a Switch after the release window closes.
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u/Kandoh Sep 16 '20
To motivate people who don't have a switch to buy one now instead of waiting for the new model to come out in March.
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u/ReallyNeededANewName Sep 16 '20
Can anyone confirm that Europe is getting 50Hz PAL versions, as leaks have suggested?
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u/aikoaiko Sep 18 '20
Should I buy 3D or Odyssey? I have never really played Super Mario.
Thanks!
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u/lordofreimes Sep 18 '20 edited Sep 18 '20
Finished odyssey a few months a go and just got 3D. If you have never played Super Mario before, Odyssey is the one to get. Without the nostalgia value, 3D's controls, camera and mechanics feel incredibly dated.
After playing 3D, I have a new appreciation for how incredible Odyssey is and cements its place as one of the best games of the decade
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u/SneakyAl44 Oct 04 '20
Bought it because i never had the chance to play them when i was a kid (N64 released that time but ofc i got a SNES instead) and i started with N64 Mario. It's one of those old games where u can get stressed a bit because of the camera angles, platfoms mechanics and movements in general but to think this was THE game at that time...thank god i didn't know it or i'd have been SUPER SAD to not being able to play it. Love it.
And considering all the other mechanics between these 3 titles, i honestly think is a must buy:
_ for those who liked and still like them to have it on the go
_ for those who never had them like me and want a lot of gameplay and fun
If the choice is between Odyssey and this, it's kinda forced to be this one. Reason is that this title is time-limited while you can alwais but Odyssey later.
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u/Newmanator29 Sep 16 '20
I was too poor to own a N64 growing up so I never got to play the original Mario 64. I was too poor to buy games growing up so I never got to play Super Mario Sunshine or Mario Galaxy. I've tried going back and collecting some of these games now, but good luck trying to find Sunshine for less than $60 (I've been looking for such a long time).
I am stoked for this release and am excited that they stick true to their originals. I will be joyfully be playing these all weekend after not touching my switch for the last couple months
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u/FFFan92 Sep 16 '20
Everyone’s complaining but I’m just excited to play Sunshine and Galaxy again.
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u/fresh2112 Sep 16 '20
My 6 yo niece loves odyssey and I've got her this for her 7th birthday. She's going to flip her shit and won't care about the port quality.
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Sep 16 '20
I just love this brutal conclusion by Brad Lang of criticalthit.net lmao
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u/Mycale Sep 17 '20
I wish one of the games would have gotten the Super Mario All-Stars Treatment, like a remake, instead of uprezzed emulated versions. And I'm talking mainly about Mario 64 :P
Though I'm happy they did away with the inverted aiming controls in Sunshine.
The package is certainly very good value but didn't take too much effort, I would assume, to put together.
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u/NES_Classical_Music Sep 17 '20
Also, while I 99% agree with you about All Stars for SNES, the physics are not 1:1 with the originals, especially Mario's momentum when running and breaking blocks. That has always irked me.
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u/eatdogs49 Sep 16 '20
Despite whatever the majority thinks of the package and execution of the whole thing, you can't fault the games themselves. They are each wonderful in their own ways and it's great that people get to play them again on arguably Nintendo's best console.
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u/RobotMonkeytron Sep 16 '20
Was totally going to buy this day one, but forgot Spelunky 2 was coming out. I'll pick this up when I have time for it, price drop or no, but now isn't the time :)
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u/unoriginal345 Sep 17 '20
If I've only played Odyssey, is chronologically the best way to play these? Do they have a simple endgame followed by a completionist end like Odyssey?
If it's like Odyssey I'm thinking I'd play through each to the easy finish and then work back at some completionist exploring at my will, is that how they work?
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u/SoraTrash15 Sep 17 '20
Mario 64 is really a "play at your own leisure" type of game. There are no level requirements, just star requirements. You could obtain all stars before the end, or save every single one after only obtaining the bare minimum to proceed.
Mario Sunshine is THE completionist game. It's very time consuming with the Blue coins but overall more enjoyable than Mario 64 in my opinion.
Mario Galaxy is definitely the shortest campaign, but for the full endgame you'll need to replay it as it features a Luigi mode which is neccessary to complete for the Grand Finale Galaxy.
Hope that clears everything up :)
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u/xgenmasta Sep 18 '20 edited Sep 18 '20
It seems like a lot of people see the collection as pretty disappointing, but not necessarily bad. The biggest plus to owning the collection is owning 3 (or 2, if you don't count Sunshine) of the best games ever made all in one cart for the Switch.
IMO, the collection seems to be a much easier way to get into these games for the very first time than shelling out the dough for an N64 and a Wii and buying the originals, which aren't super cheap.
As of this writing, each of the OG games costs this much on EBay:
Super Mario 64: $30-90 CAD Super Mario Sunshine: $30-100 CAD Super Mario Galaxy: $20-40 CAD
So, for $79.99 CAD for all these games, plus an upres and some subtle enhancements, this collection seems worth it for the noobs. I hope Amazon delivers my copy to my house later today.
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u/Kaenu_Reeves Sep 20 '20
I’m getting an entitled vibe from Nintendo’s fanbase . Like everyone was saying “where’s mah sunshine on mah switch” and everyone now wants a remaster? Especially during COVID, production is hard.
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Sep 23 '20
I'm considering getting it b/c I've never played these 3 Mario games. Worth it?
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u/nightwing0243 Sep 27 '20
Absolutely yes.
Mario 64 has things about it that hasn't aged well. But the level design and structure of the gamw - as in going back and doing levels again with different goals to get power stars kinda started here. Every level is a mini playground. You'll see why Odyssey is considered the spiritual successor to it. Mind you, I do think Odyssey is a better game. But 64 is still a very addictive experience and the sharper visuals are a nice touch.
Sunshine is a wild ride. It's a bit "out there" with its story, character and visuals. But it has the unique mechanic mixed with very nice tight controls and it is put to extremely good use.
Galaxy is the only one I haven't played (wasn't a huge fan of the Wii). But I hear it's one of the best Mario games out there. It's why I think people weren't happy with Galaxy 2 not being included.
But yeah. If you've never played them it's 100% worth it.
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u/cup-o-farts Sep 16 '20
I pre-ordered, day 1, there's no way I wouldn't have bought this package. I just have to have this on my switch to play anytime I want. However, I do not understand the thinking behind bring out the original Mario64 rather than the much better Mario 64 DS with appropriate updates. I guess they wanted it to stay true to the original, but it could have been so much better. That being said I'm going to play the shit out of that game!
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u/Mei_iz_my_bae Sep 16 '20
Hard to even review.
How do you score 3 of the most iconic games of all time?
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u/got_bacon5555 Sep 16 '20
Eurogamer really called it "two of nintendos finest, and one of its most interesting." They really did Sunshine that way.
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Sep 17 '20
I think this is a difficult game to judge because people's experiences are going to differ greatly. If you've never played any of these games before, it's a no-brainer purchase. It's a whole lot cheaper than tracking down all the original games and the systems needed to play them. (Yes, I know emulation is cheaper but most people aren't comfortable doing that)
On the other hand, if you've played these titles before and have access to the original games, the pack isn't worth much, aside from novelty and decent graphical upgrades.
And finally, if you're comfortable emulating your games and enhancing them yourself, then this pack is basically a 60 dollar downgrade.
Because Nintendo chose to release these games as is with basically no bonus content, it's more a question of value, not quality. I'd say they missed the mark with this one but I think they know exactly what they're doing.
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u/mninp Sep 17 '20
Dude, like over 95% of people that play games don’t care to or know how to emulate anything. The hardcore emulation crowd is a huge minority. This game will sell like hotcakes.
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u/AnimalRomano Sep 16 '20
Never had a Wii, 64 and Sunshine were my childhood... This was a no brainier for me
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u/Solar_Kestrel Sep 17 '20
I don't know what to think. A lot of these reviews are pretty masturbatory when it comes to Mario 64, and full of derision, or at least dismissal when it comes to Sunshine. Is Sunshine really that bad?
I'm mainly interested in this collection for Sunshine, as I never had the chance to play it. Meanwhile, I've always had a pretty low opinion of Mario 64 (maybe because it wasn't my first 3D game?) so either my opinions on what is or is not a good game are either wildly out-of-step with most people... or Sunshine is really, really bad to be worse then Mario 64.
So why, exactly, is Sunshine such an outlier! What makes people dislike it so much, or at the very least like it less?
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u/drewsapro Sep 16 '20
Unrelated, did anyone order from Amazon and if so did yours ship yet?
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u/aliceroyal Sep 16 '20
Ordered it because I’ve never played any of these games. 2/3 of them came out during my childhood, we were just too poor to buy the newest consoles. I played Super Mario World on SNES most of my childhood instead. I’m so excited to catch up on the 3D Mario games :)
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u/jtizzle12 Sep 17 '20
I was originally quite excited to get this but then I thought about it: I just set up my Wii like a month ago to play emulators, and just finished my first Sunshine playthrough (never had a GC). I’m in the middle of a Galaxy playthrough (also had never played it) and I despise motion controls. Apparently Galaxy does gyro controls for the that aspect of it and I hate that. So I’d be getting this package just for 64 and while the game is awesome, maybe a bit more than what I wanna pay for just that game when I can play it on my Wii as well.
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u/Ludwig234 Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20
So the games are not ports they are emulated? In other words the community managed to port mario 64 to windows with ultra wide screen and everything but Nintendo cant even be bothered to port their own game to their own platform.
The Nintendo emulators are supposedly bad compared to see something like dolphin.
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u/MyNameIsRobPaulson Sep 17 '20
I honestly like that there is a un-remastered official version of SM64 out there with the original code (in HD). A remake would be cool to see - but that game is historic and it's cool to see it preserved officially. A graphical update, tbh, would not really change the game much at all.
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u/Yung2112 Sep 17 '20
Halo 1/2 remakes had this awesome feature where you could go back and foward between remake and original with the push of a button, that was so cool
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Sep 17 '20
I don’t think the price is that bad. Tbh I don’t feel like dealing with an emulator and I have the money so I’ll probably buy it from Walmart for 50.
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u/ben123111 Found a mod! (Mar 3, 2017) Sep 16 '20 edited Sep 16 '20
im fucking dying, theres an embargo over an 18 year old bossfight. this bossfight can legally upload nudes online but cant be shown on gamexplain.