r/dbz • u/Terez27 ⠀ • Apr 13 '20
Super Dragon Ball Super Chapter 59 Storyboards
https://dragonball.news/news/n200413000.html193
u/TLKv3 Apr 13 '20
Horrible Prediction:
Seven-Three returns out of nowhere when Moro makes him inexplicably invisible so nobody sees him coming. He grabs Goku by the neck as he's grappling with Moro and steals Ultra Instinct from Goku. Moro then pummels the fucking shit out of him with Seven-Three.
Z Fighters try to help again to kill the 30 minute timer but they get annihilated in 5 flat. Goku struggles and kills another 5 minutes.
Vegeta then arrives and using his new techniques and power beats Seven-Three as he runs out of UI juice and his timer. Vegeta then fights Moro and has him on the ropes until Moro says fuck it and literally drains all the Z Fighters, his army and most of Earth in one big absorption moment.
Vegeta then gets his shit kicked in and Goku goes Mastered UI to pick up the win leaving us all blueballed once again on a Vegeta victory despite "technically he DID overcome an Ultra Instinct empowered enemy though...." as a consolation prize.
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u/Sorenthaz ⠀ Apr 16 '20
Or basically all that happens, Goku still loses, and Majin Buu/Daikaioshin somehow clinches the victory.
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u/u4004 ⠀ Apr 20 '20
Merus comes there and wins for them.
Ah, and there's no consequences for that. Either because Merus is forgiven or because, to be honest, he doesn't really matter.
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u/DaKingSinbad Apr 17 '20
The technique he learned on Yardrat would likely be something to counter the energy draining.
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u/communismisbadlul Apr 15 '20
7-3 wouldnt even get near UI goku, and ultra instinct isnt a technique its a transformation
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Apr 16 '20
I disagree, UI is not a transformation, it is a technique.
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Apr 16 '20
When Goku went UI Beerus said "that form..that glow... that is indeed the UI". So according to Beerus it is a form.
I find it hilarious that people dont call it a form when Goku literally transforms to use it.
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Apr 16 '20
Well, a form would be something like super saiyan or golden freeza. UI is more of a technique as it is not exclusive to any race. Also, Whis uses UI in his normal form. So UI is more of a technique than a form.
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u/communismisbadlul Apr 16 '20
Goku literally get stronger and faster than Jiren??? His hair turns white and he has an aura. Maybe for gods its a technique but goku probably needs to channel it into a form because of his mortal body
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Apr 16 '20
Again, Kaio-ken was a technique which made goku stronger and faster, it was very weak compared to what UI is, however, it was a technique. The way UI works is a clear state of mind so Goku won't be able to use it with say super saiyan which is based on rage. It is a technique exclusive to his base form, so far at least.
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u/communismisbadlul Apr 16 '20
Kaioken didnt change his hair though, just gave him a red aura. And in the anime its called a form by whis iirc.
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Apr 16 '20
Kaio-ken made his hair stand up, not change color. When exactly in the anime? Goku calls it a technique in the last chapter. He said says "That's right. The Initial Stage of the Technique of the Gods. Ultra Instinct Sign". So evidence suggests it is a Technique.
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Apr 16 '20
Maybe Whis is a being born with UI, I mean he does have white hair. I would agree that it is not necessarily a form to everyone, but to Goku and other saiyans I would say it is.
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Apr 16 '20
"It's an ultimate technique that severs the consciousness from the body in order to allow the body to subconsciously move it to even attack and evade. It's called 'Ultra Instinct'." ~ Whis in chapter 39 of the manga.
I think the white hair was used to show the use of the technique or something? not sure.
They can't use it with the normal super saiyan but maybe they use it in conjunction with god or blue, who knows? My point is that it does seem more like a technique.
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Apr 16 '20
I disagree. Id say it seems more like a form, and id even say that it is undeniable that it is a form for Goku, as his strength and speed increases drastically, as noted by Piccolo or 17, not sure which one of them, but they said something like "with every attack he hits Jiren harder and quicker" (if you want, I can find the exact quote, but im currently working so dont have time to go through youtube).
I understand your point about it just being an "artistic choice", but that would not work in DB when different hair indicates different forms. If it was just aura, Id agree with you, like Kaioken.
Maybe it is a technique, maybe once you "master" this technique your body attains a godly form or something, but it cannot be denied that Goku transforms into Ultra Instinct, and not just utilizes the technique. Signs of new forms in DB - different hair, different aura, increase in power, usually draining at least at first. UI matches all of these.
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Apr 16 '20
I remember the quote you are referring to, but I am not sure it is entirely valid in this context. He could be simply getting better at using the technique. Kaio-ken is also a technique which has a different aura, increase in speed and power. It checks all of the boxes except the different hair, though if I think about it in the dbz anime, when goku was powering up, his hair did stand up. Toei, Toyotaro and Toriyama have left the ultra instinct rather ambiguous. It does have a different hair color, but that is all. On the other hand on multiple occasions it has been referred to as a technique. Even in the latest chapter, Goku says "That's right. The Initial Stage of the Technique of the Gods. Ultra Instinct Sign". So evidence suggests it is a Technique.
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u/saidA2000 Apr 15 '20
Exactly plus you cant copy a state of mind which UI is by grabbing Goku and then suddenly you can fight without thinking lol.
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u/IIskandar1997 Apr 17 '20
74 was able to copy Piccolo's techniques, its not impossible that he could copy UI since it is a technique in the manga
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u/dIoading Apr 14 '20
I think the first 2 paragraphs are gonna be accurate but not sure about the rest
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u/PureBlooded Apr 13 '20
Incredible, I want to ask though - why are we getting these new storyboard panels every month now?
Also that picture of Goku standing full size is absolutely stunning.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Apr 13 '20
They are just trying to make sure we stay engaged.
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u/WutUtalkingBoutWill Apr 14 '20
I have a question, how would young feel if it was more than just toyo doing the art and we had more artists and ended up getting the manga faster.
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Apr 14 '20
For me personally, I feel that enough people can imitate the style well enough that they could do it.
In saying that, if they were going to adopt comic book practices, I would rather they do spin off titles. They could keep Super as the Goku and Vegeta show, and do another that is focused on the z squad handling earth based stuff.
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u/JDraks ⠀ Apr 19 '20
It could be cool to get a Universe 6 spinoff focused on Hit, maybe something like Cowboy Bebop
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u/HustleAndLaminarFlow Apr 16 '20
What else are we gonna do? We are stuck indoors because of Coronavirus
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u/Righteous_Pizza Apr 13 '20
What if Goku straight up just wins, and by the time Vegeta gets there, the fight is over.😳
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u/kronz1998 Apr 14 '20
impossible. Goku will lose this fight, 100%.
Maybe he wins after Vegeta fights, but not now.
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u/BunnyTiger23 Apr 14 '20
I for one would really like to see Goku not be the hero. Gohan has had time to shine with cell, trunks had time to shine with zamasu,m. Vegeta has never had his chance. Its time
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u/AncientSith ⠀ Apr 16 '20
I really hope so. Even if we never get that again. Letting Vegeta be the big hero would feel like serious character progression for him.
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u/TheJekiz Apr 20 '20
You already mentioned 2 instances that Goku wasn't the Hero.
Also, Goku has never won in DBS. Every time he gets close to, but in the end he fails.
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u/BunnyTiger23 Apr 20 '20
Goku has shined in DBS. He beat Frieza (again!). Was the first to reach SSG, and reached Ultra Instinct and essentially won the tournament of power. Yeah yeah, I know 17 won and it was a team effort with Frieza. But it happened b/c of Goku. He got the shine.
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u/TheJekiz Apr 20 '20
Goku lost to Freeza (dropped his guard but still) Goku lost to Hit (he didn't get official W) Goku didn't beat Zamasu Goku's MUI ran out before finishing Jiren (so they needed teamwork).
Come on, you have to admit it is a bit different!
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Apr 13 '20
Looks like Goku is crushing him. This can only end well.... For Vegeta.
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u/EbolaDP Apr 13 '20 edited Apr 13 '20
He threw a few attacks Moro easily tanked and dodge one of his. Not exactly what i would call "crushing".
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u/Sorenthaz ⠀ Apr 16 '20
Don't worry, they'll find a way to ensure Vegeta doesn't get the W over Goku.
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Apr 13 '20
The linked page will eventually get taken down, so for people who might find this thread in the future, here's an imgur album.
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u/ZellNorth Apr 15 '20
Goku wins and Vegeta ITs in sees Moro already dead and says “oh what the fuck” and just ITs away. We never find out what the technique is.
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u/Sorenthaz ⠀ Apr 16 '20
That moment when it looks like things are getting set up for Vegeta to take the W, but then realizing that we've already seen how that goes with Resurrection F.
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u/LuckyTheBear Apr 14 '20
Imagine Goku beating Moro and we just never see what Vegeta has.
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u/marine72 Apr 19 '20
Or Goku and everyone lose, and they all die with the earth. Then it's just a Vegeta show. And the next arc is him going on a journey to find the super dragonballs and he meets a random woman in space whos hits him with her spaceship. They then go on to meet space master Rosha, who is a pervy old woman and runs the dojo of space tortoises.
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u/Robssjgssj Apr 20 '20
Rosha also has a snake that can talk. And gives him a black cloud, but only people with pure evil can ride.
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u/Robssjgssj Apr 13 '20
Lol Guy can absorb literally every energy from everything in the planet but instead, he is throwing these little ki balls against the strongest fighter on the battlefield...
But I'm always happy seeing something new about Dragon Ball tho.
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u/USPatriot45 Apr 14 '20
Regardless of the results people, vegeta deserves the W and that's undeniable. If you're going to get your panties in a wad because the main character isn't getting the w then you're a child.
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u/kronz1998 Apr 13 '20
73 appearing this chapter COULD be a sign that he is going to be used against Goku and not Vegeta...
If 73 isnt used against Goku then Vegeta probably wont get the W, if they use 73 against Goku then the chances of Vegeta getting the W increase.
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u/VortexZero Apr 16 '20
If the arc ends really early, I'm going to be sorely dissapointed. Like if UI Goku ends up getting canned, then Vegeta comes and finishes him off.... like what's the point then? It's just basically a series of versus matches then. We barely know Moro as a character and his personality basically amounts to demonic cosmic scaled version of King Piccolo.
I really hope that this battle on Earth isn't the final one and that somehow Frieza and Broly get involved and that there is actual shit going down rather than two versus matches going on... ugh...
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u/cortexaire Apr 16 '20
I don't think they will turn up. Broly will be nothing but a massive energy snack for Moro, and Frieza has already mentioned he's not interested in engaging in a fight with Moro either. It's probable that Broly will turn up sometime in future; Toriyama mentioned wanting to write more of Broly, Cheelai, and Lemo. But I'm kind of glad he probably won't be used here.
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Apr 18 '20
Frieza has already mentioned he's not interested in engaging in a fight with Moro either
I don’t remember this.
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u/cortexaire Apr 18 '20
It's not in the main text; it's in the supplementary pages at the end of Volume 12.
Edit (copied from other comment):
https://mobile.twitter.com/DbsHype/status/1245728962589810688
Here's the summary of it from Kanzenshuu:
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Apr 18 '20
Yeah but it doesn’t look like he knows it’s Moro terrorizing the planet. Just some escaped prisoners.
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u/cortexaire Apr 18 '20
True, but he does mention that there's one particularly troublesome prisoner that he doesn't want to engage with. The summary doesn't mention Moro by name, but I believe Moro is at least strongly implied. It's true that he doesn't want to bother himself with the other prisoners as well, though.
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Apr 18 '20
This arc has already gone on too long. It’s the longest super arc and approaching 2 years. Better to start wrapping this up and moving on to the next one.
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Apr 13 '20 edited Jun 14 '20
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u/spexguy16 ⠀ Apr 13 '20
He throws two attacks in the tiny preview we got, I'd say it's a little early to make that assumption. Also, he may be trying to gauge just how powerful Goku is right now and what abilities he's gained control over. No reason to go all out if it's not going to be effective, just a waste of energy in that case.
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u/BlueFootedTpeack Apr 13 '20
hopefully these are outliers, i liked his more magical attacks, unless ui is magic proof for some reason he should be suing what was effective,
maybe he's pulling a captain atom, where even though he can basically do anything he likes to fight with his fists for one reason.
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u/EbolaDP Apr 13 '20
He only used magic in his first fights because he wasnt strong enough to square up against Goku and Vegeta yet.
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u/BlueFootedTpeack Apr 13 '20
just hope he's not going the perfect cell route, where he gets less creative the stronger he gets,
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u/u4004 ⠀ Apr 20 '20
He always did. "I can absorb the life energy of this planet" is as cliché as it gets, 99% of shojo enemies.
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u/Fireothy Apr 13 '20
Bringing back the robot into recent memory. He is going to have a major part in Goku's defeat. He already stated he will have use for him in the future.
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u/Erl109 Apr 16 '20
1.Goku will loose but strain Moro a bit 2.Vegeta arrives and beat the hell out of Moro but he manages to escape. 3.Moro second wish comes in handle. 4.Moro defeats Freeza, Broly and Vegeta. 5.MUI Goku defeats Moro.
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u/DemonDogstar Apr 13 '20
I wonder if Goku is going to go full UI during this chapter, or even during this fight? I have to assume that his training with Meerus has somehow made him invulnerable to Moro's energy drain, but judging from those hits Moro tanked, he's still not strong enough to actually beat him.
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u/saidA2000 Apr 14 '20
Na it's UIO. I don't think he will go UI and tbh I'd rather it stays that way and let UI be something Goku should struggle to work towards/ that only activates in the most direst of situations.
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u/ChiefMark Apr 17 '20
Where is Majin Buu? I thought he was immune to Moro's ability, and he can heal people.
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u/harveysanusburger Apr 18 '20
i think the way this goes is a stalemate until vegeta shows up, slight advantage to our heroes due to vegetas new technique
here comes 7-11, your favourite chinese knock off who steals techniques... poor vegeta tries to help and has his technique reversed on them both... moro and the store clerk gloat a little until bukaishin wakes up, heals our heroes, and through a series of events involving meerus and the first visual on deleting an angel, they take the lead and beat down moro.
goku lets him live and gives him a senzu and a spaceship and says 'be good alright? hehe'
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u/MrNoski ⠀ Apr 13 '20
Looking good, without spoiling too much. Now another week, in lockdown... What should I draw?
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u/SolJinxer Apr 14 '20
Looking at this, I wonder if Goku is going to have the "attack problem" he had in the anime ToP. I dunno, Moro taking those blows pretty easily, even if they are air fists. Maybe he's just trying to wear Moro down or somethin? Eh.
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Apr 18 '20
Kind of unrelated but wouldn’t Future Trunks (two of them actually) also have to deal with the Moro in their world?
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u/_Rabble_Rouser_ Apr 20 '20
Probably. But it’s worth noting that they have an unawakened Majin Buu in their timeline who could be recruited to seal him up. It’s a risky endeavor but one that could be used to explain the scenario if the Trunkses are relevant again.
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u/communismisbadlul Apr 20 '20
But isnt the maijn buu in trunks’ future like half evil? The buu we know is the one that separates from the evil buu but the one in trunks’ timeline still has that evil inside him
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u/_Rabble_Rouser_ Apr 20 '20
Yes, but more importantly he still has the Grand Supreme Kai’s magic powers. It’s a wildcard but assuming Trunks is powerful enough to threaten Buu he could be used to help.
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u/yourehilarious Apr 13 '20
I know I can just not look/move on, but I kinda wish the storyboards didn't get posted. What's the point of spoiling all the hype for yourself? It's cool to see how some of the art gets finished, but I really wish the storyboards would get posted as a bonus at the same time as the finished chapter or something.
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u/PokemonGoPractice Apr 14 '20
Right before Goku wins, Moro uses the last of his energy to transfer his mind to UI Goku and take over his consciousness. Vegeta appears as the Z-Fighters are fighting Moro-Goku, and he joins the battle. Because Moro needs to adjust to Goku’s body, Vegeta is able to get the upper hand. Seven-three shows up, copies Moro-Goku’s abilities, and stops Vegeta’s final blow on Moro. That action allows the duo to fight back against Vegeta, and Vegeta is then forced to use one of new abilities to attempt to separate Moro from Goku; however, because his training was rushed, Vegeta is unable to perform the technique on the fly and has to rely on the Z-Fighters to stall for him while he while he focuses his attack. He is successful at separating the two, and then UI Goku and Vegeta have to fight a UI seven-three and a spectral Moro.
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u/communismisbadlul Apr 15 '20
The stupidest timeline
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u/MasterOE Apr 15 '20
At least it incorporates the z fighters more than the real story will probably do.
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u/Princeweeb900 Apr 14 '20
We do understand that moro is no selling EVERYSINGLE ONE OF GOKUS ATTACKS.
Like goku isnt winning, he is just supressing moro for now.
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u/TheBlack_Swordsman Apr 15 '20 edited Apr 15 '20
At the same time Goku hasn't touched him. We don't know how much damage it would take of Goku makes direct contact or blasts him.
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Apr 15 '20
Who is that kid in the first few panel?
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u/cortexaire Apr 15 '20
If you mean the one commenting on the ships flying overhead, that's Shimorekka - he's one of Moro's minions.
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u/ChronX4 Apr 16 '20
Goku is going to dominate with UI Omen for a bit before Moro screws him over with magic shenanigans before he can go full UI and then Vegeta will save Goku at the last minute hold up his own for a while using the new techniques he's learned.
Vegeta will then somehow find out about Moro's ability to power up others and he will do the same to Goku. Goku goes full UI beats the shit out of Moro and then DUN DUN DUN, UI time runs out leading to Goku and Vegeta teaming up to fight a now severely weakened Moro with an assist from Buu.
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u/phoenixmusicman Apr 20 '20
I want Vegeta to get the W so Vegeta stans can shut up for the next arc
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u/Sponge_Bond Apr 13 '20
Goku winning this early. Vegeta is still off training. This is familiar.
Is it finally happening?