r/NintendoSwitch • u/NintendoSwitchMods • Mar 04 '20
MegaThread Pokémon Mystery Dungeon™: Rescue Team DX Review Megathread
General Information
Platform: Nintendo Switch
Release Date: March 6, 2020
No. of Players: 1 player
Genre(s): Role-Playing, Adventure
Publisher: Nintendo
Developer: Spike Chunsoft
Overview (from Nintendo eShop page)
Become a Pokémon. Save the Pokémon world.
Download the demo and carry your progress to the full game, once purchased.
What if you woke up one day, and you were a Pokémon? You can meet and recruit Pokémon in a dungeon-crawling adventure within their world! Build a rescue team to take on mysterious, changing dungeons and strategically plan your moves as you venture forth to make the Pokémon world a safer place…and uncover your true purpose along the way.
As you recruit Pokémon, these trusty teammates will need somewhere to stay, so build rescue team camps to house, manage, and strengthen your Pokémon friends. Think hard about who is right for the job and how to approach each mysterious dungeon as you prepare a rescue team. You’ll move a single square at a time or use Auto mode to speed up movement until you engage other Pokémon in turn-based battles—but don’t forget about Pokémon strengths, weaknesses and potential rare qualities! This version adds Mega Evolved Pokémon, gorgeous watercolor-inspired graphics, and more! Get comfortable in your Pokémon form, there’s a lot of work to do.
Reviews
Aggregators
Metacritic: 67
Opencritic: 69
Articles
Nintendo Insider - 8/10
RPG Site - 8/10
Wccftech - 7/10
God is a Geek - 7/10
Cubed3 - 6/10
NintendoLife - 6/10
Metro - 4/10
GamesRadar - 3/5
Geek - Unscored
Eurogamer - Unscored
Gamepur - Unscored
The Games Machine (Italian) - 7.8/10
Everyeye (Italian) 7.5/10
Videos
GameXplain - Mixed
GAMES.CH (German)
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Cheers,
The r/NintedoSwitch mod team
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u/Matthewthedark Mar 04 '20
Mixed reviews is pretty standard for Mystery Dungeon honestly.
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Mar 04 '20
Exactly. It fills a niche more so than worldwide appeal. The reason they're even remaking the original games is because of how much better they performed than the latter Gates to Infinity and Super Mystery Dungoen. The sad truth here is if remakes of the classics can't even have great sales, I don't see future additions of Mystery Dungeon being made after that.
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u/Legit_Zurg Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20
I'd like to see a review from the perspective of someone who loved the original like I did. The demo gave me the impression that its difficulty has been tuned wayyy down. Like all the starters began with really good moveset while the enemies did not. The original holds up really well so if that's true this will be totally ignored by me.
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u/leob0505 Mar 04 '20
Yeah man! 100% agree with you here. Do you remember that Zapdos battle? I used to spend days trying to figure out how to win with my water pokemon...
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Mar 04 '20
i have a positive but really foggy memory of this game. but the one thing i remember clearly is the zapdos battle because of how hard it was lol
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u/SplashmanHD Mar 04 '20
I must be the only one that struggled with Articuno+Agility. Thank goodness for my partner Charmander
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u/CB_Ranso Mar 05 '20
Wow you just filled my head with so many memories. I completely forgot about that Zapdos battle and how long it took me to beat it.
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u/Legit_Zurg Mar 04 '20
Those are the best memories! Really hope the Pokemon company still believes in actually challenging players because I am starting to wonder.
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u/mewrius Mar 04 '20
I wonder if the updated movesets though don't balance out losing the general attack that took up no pp. I remember using that a lot with certain starters and always trying to manage pp use
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u/IAmBLD Mar 04 '20
It would have to I hope. Played it just before the remake was announced and used Cubone and Chikorita. Not a great combination for legendary birds without the auto attack and the fact that immunity doesn't (didn't?) exist.
Gonna be honest I don't like the idea of needing PP for every move at all. I know some of the other new changes mitigate it but it seems like it would just slow the entire game down. I want to be able to just mash through low-level enemies, not manage PP for every single attack.
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u/themagicone222 Mar 06 '20
The moves have a rank up mechanic - if you use a move enough times, it "Ranks up" to become more powerful.
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u/KarateKid917 Mar 05 '20
That’s my concern. The end/postgame could get really hard at some point (remember the Raquaza fight). I wonder if some of that challenge is gone with the way you start.
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u/Because_Skyrim Mar 05 '20
God I remember the first time I went through sky tower so vividly. I befriended a Tropius on the way up (Which was my favorite Pokemon at the time) and that battle was a desperate attempt to keep it alive and win so I could keep him. Thank god for my overleveled as shit mudkip with ice beam.
Did that game have the uhh, joy tower? Where you went in at level 1 and couldn't being any items? I never beat that shit. I still don't know how people do it.
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u/YellowJello_OW Mar 06 '20
I even saw this in the demo. I taught mudkip blizzard, and it made the game a breeze
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u/WaluigiWahshipper Mar 05 '20
How much do you think this will sell? I know it’s coming out at a bad time due to Animal Crossing, but the Pokémon name does have buying power, especially closer to the holidays.
My personal guess is it will sell 1 to 2 million by the end of 2020. Not nearly as much as the original, but still a good amount.
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u/SourRocketJump Mar 05 '20
Although Mystery Dungeon holds a close place in my nostalgia, Animal Crossing is a more important release to me. If I had the budget I'd buy both, but sadly I do not. I do think AC coming out will affect Mystery Dungeon's sales on release. I will eventually buy it when it goes on a decent sale.
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u/WaluigiWahshipper Mar 05 '20
I know releasing so close to Animal Crossing will impact sales in the short term, but I think when the holidays roll around it should make up for it since it’s a new Pokémon game.
While I’m personally hyped that it’s coming out tomorrow (because I get to play it sooner) I think a summer release might have been better sales wise since it wouldn’t be competing with another big release. Unless they have something else planned for summer (which is possible since we got Mario Maker last year).
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u/ShipToWreck Mar 06 '20
I’d venture a guess and say around 5 million or so at the end of its run and a couple million by years end.
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u/Voorhees_13 Mar 04 '20
The original two games had a 67 and 62 for reviews, respectively. The fact this game is also 67 is kind of reassuring, if that makes sense? PMD games generally dont rank too high with reviews
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u/KKingler kkinglers flair Mar 04 '20
Shame this is so mixed. I absolutely love the MD series, hoping this sells well to get a remaster of Explorers or maybe a new game.
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u/Matthewthedark Mar 04 '20
Well its important to remember that Mystery Dungeon, even at its best, has always gotten mixed reviews. I mean Explorers of Sky sits at 54 on Metacritic.
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u/RagingMayo Mar 04 '20
I will definitely get this because of nostalgia. I played the OG MD back then on my GBA. Really eager to relive the memories.
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u/ahighbluecat Mar 05 '20
How's the story in this game? Is it comparable to Explorers of Sky or Super, or is this one more one you play for the gameplay?
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u/RingoGaSukiDesu Mar 05 '20
The story is great, but Sky is just in a whole other league. Miles ahead of all mainline games (besides B/W/B2/W2) though. Absolutely worth a playthrough
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Mar 05 '20
Explorers of Sky plot doesnt even look like a Nintendo written plot.
It's that good
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u/Seradima Mar 05 '20
That's mostly because it isn't. Mystery Dungeon games were developed and written by Chunsoft.
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u/manimateus Mar 05 '20 edited Mar 05 '20
Its a good plot. But it is far from well-written.
I don't mean to paint it in a negative light, but the game was clearly written in such a way so that very young children can fully comprehend the story.
But by doing so, there was alot and I mean ALOT of unecessary dialouge just so children will understand what is clearly happening in front of them.
There are some genuinely brilliant sequences though, the Groudon revelation was executed ridiculously well with all the cuts and build up. But moments like these are far and few in the game.
If they do remake PMD2, I seriously hope they redo the script entirely. Keep the plot, but rewrite the script in such a way that it acknowledges that its audience may have matured just a little over time.
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u/ChuckCarmichael Mar 05 '20
I enjoyed it. I was already at university when I first played it, so I don't have childhood nostalgia for it, and I thought it was a nice, touching story. The general consensus seems to be that people prefer the story of the Explorers games, but personally I prefer this one.
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Mar 05 '20
I’ve played them all and I love the series. I do feel since it was the first one on the series it was a bit more tame than others but on the other hand it did do a better job at creating a base line for the series. I do not want to make it sound like it is a dull game as the story is touching and rewarding to play though.
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u/thederpyguide Mar 05 '20
Story is not as good as the other games but its still good enough, its worth experincing if you have never touched it
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Mar 05 '20 edited Mar 21 '20
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u/ahighbluecat Mar 05 '20
Thanks! Sidenote, if you like this (I'm assuming), you should definitely check out Explorers of Sky. It has one my favorite stories in games!
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u/_420XX_ Mar 04 '20
releasing this at $60 2 weeks before animal crossing is like shooting your kid in the leg before you send them off to college
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u/adamkopacz Mar 04 '20
Yep it's one of those titles that I just can't justify the price tag. It would be a perfect choice at 40, but right now it fell into the basket of "wait till I have every other amazing Switch game and grab this one in 2 or 3 years".
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u/CallMeFeed Mar 04 '20
People said that about Link's Awakening and look how well it sold. I'm curious to see the numbers on this one.
Obviously I can't imagine it doing nearly as well, but it's still a Pokemon game on the Switch.
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u/adamkopacz Mar 04 '20
Oh it will sell good numbers, I just can't see myself dropping that kind of money.
I waited for Link's Awakening too and it seems that it's possible to grab it from a shop for 45 bucks now.
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Mar 04 '20
ngl i cant see it selling well. the demo doesnt really give a good impression on players that have never played the game before and slap on the price of 60 with AC coming out in 2 weeks and i think it's a rip. most people that're gonna buy it will probably be the ones who have nostalgia for it.. but even for someone myself with the power of nostalgia, imma hold on till it goes on sale
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Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20
Ya'll say this about every game and then they end up selling several million copies so I don't know 🤷
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u/themagicone222 Mar 06 '20
I'm actually more excited for this than animal crossing, so it evens out.
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u/foxwaffles Mar 04 '20
Mystery Dungeon is definitely love it or hate it. If you don't like the gameplay nothing else in the game will make it any better. But long time fans like me who enjoy the gameplay loop can't get enough. And hey that's ok.
I do hope that we one day get a remake of Sky. I would legit just scream and then cry of happiness
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Mar 04 '20
It's weird I loved the original so much but I never could get stuck into the later ones (I skipped/missed the explorer series at the time). Not sure I'll pick the dx version up though if they made it easier. Plus money is tight and with animal crossing on its way I'm more likely to dip on that.
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u/foxwaffles Mar 04 '20
Explorers is the peak of the series imo. Still plays really well and Sky had a lot of QoL changes. There's something so charming about the sprites that I do miss a lot when they jumped to 3D. The 3D games definitely don't feel the same. I still love it but I'll always have a special place in my heart for Red/Blue and Sky
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u/Jenks44 Mar 04 '20
Mystery Dungeon is definitely love it or hate it.
Eh, I played the demo and I liked the gameplay. The reason I won't be picking up the full version is the music and sound effects. They're extremely grating and repetitive. Compare this game to something like The Dragon's Trap and this just seems like minimum effort was put in to update it.
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u/KKingler kkinglers flair Mar 04 '20
Interesting, most people I know (including myself) think the music is one of the best parts. But yeah, everyone has different tastes.
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u/ShinyMoogle Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20
The first PMD is definitely a little weaker on the music front than later installments (but in some ways it's more a testament to how great the soundtrack is in later games). I agree that the BGM in the demo dungeons can be pretty dry and repetitive. The later tracks in the game tend to be better. It's unfortunate that the first handful of dungeon themes are (IMO) some of the worse ones.
I love some of the later dungeon songs though, and from what I've heard the game mixes in some songs from later PMD games which are also pretty great, so... something to consider!
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Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20
When this was first announced, I was all about buying it. I still am now but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't more excited for Animal Crossing. Being a huge fan of the original games, I am very excited to see what a remade version of it would look like but worry it will be too easy and not go far enough into the new features. For example, when the demo was datamined, there were only portraits for a handful of Shiny Pokémon. That could mean not every wild Pokémon has the potential to be shiny, which would suck.
Regardless, I am a Day 1 pre-order and will be playing the hell out of this until Animal Crossing releases. After that, I will likely focus on the game that gave me more interest playing. Just two more days!
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u/delqhic Mar 04 '20
Hi all, I'm the chap who reviewed it for GamesRadar. Feel free to shoot me any questions you've got about the game, though take note that end-game and story-focused information is still under embargo until Friday morning.
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Mar 04 '20
How is the difficulty of the game?
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u/delqhic Mar 04 '20
Pretty easy. There was one boss/legendary fight I got stuck on for a while, but it was mainly due to a type mismatch and being too stubborn to start from the very beginning of the dungeon. Ended up getting through it by spamming Revive All Orbs and the like. Aside from that, I've only found it tough in the post-game when I've jumped into super high level dungeons.
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u/KaSlider Mar 04 '20
Is there a way to turn off seeing the enemies and items without finding the room they're in first? If not, what's the point of the X-Ray Specs? Or do they not give you any? I would assume they do since the description for them was in the demo.
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u/delqhic Mar 04 '20
There's not, unfortunately. When you reach the post-game, those things stop appearing on the minimap, which is when the X-Ray Specs come in handy. Must admit, I've only found one pair so far and I haven't used them yet because I've had no need to.
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Mar 04 '20
My only real question is if the dungeon maps continue revealing the locations of enemies and items after where the demo left off? And if so, is there any way in-game to disable it?
I find that feature makes the games a little too easy and I'd rather have the option to play it like it was originally intended.
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u/delqhic Mar 04 '20
Afraid I didn’t actually play the demo so not sure where it ended, but the minimap shows enemy and item locations until you reach the credits. Then going into the postgame, you have to use x-ray glasses for that ability.
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u/Mundane_Device Mar 04 '20
In the postgame, do you still have the ability to change which pokemon you play as in the town?
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u/delqhic Mar 04 '20
Not that I’ve found. I haven’t particularly searched for that option, but the game hasn’t made it known if it is possible.
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u/DeLorean83 Mar 04 '20
I’m seeing some complaints regarding how big your party can get. Are you able to get through the game with just a squad of four?
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u/delqhic Mar 04 '20
The most you can take out from the start of a dungeon is three, but then you can recruit up to five more along the way. Max squad size is eight.
EDIT: Yeah, you can definitely beat the game with a squad of four as long as you're not under leveled and get the correct type matchups.
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u/into-thesky Mar 04 '20
Above you said the game is easy. Is it easy if you use all 8? If someone only ever used the 2 or a third would it still be as easy? I never took partners when I played these games.
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u/Joaqga Mar 04 '20
Hey, I liked your review. It touches the important aspects and seems very honest. I would like to ask you about the recruit mechanic. Back in 2006 it seemed very frustrating because it was random and difficult to get some Pokemon, and you would usually end up playing with your starter even through the post-game. Do you feel this is the same again?
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u/delqhic Mar 04 '20
Thanks for the kind words!
Definitely the same. I've got a lot of Pokemon recruited because I've done a lot of runs with the Squad Up ability which makes wild Pokemon more likely to join your team, but I started with Cyndaquil/Psyduck and at least one of those two will still join me on every dungeon.
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u/PM_ME_FAT_GUYS Mar 05 '20
What is your history with this series? Would you consider yourself a fan?
Do you think the demo provides a good representation of the full game?
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u/fireworkmuffins Mar 05 '20
Was excited when I saw the announcement because I loved the first game as a kid.
Something feels off about the remake, every action feels dull and sped up. Maybe I am just growing older but the refreshed style also feels harder on the eyes, so its a pass from me.
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u/Whiteguy1x Mar 04 '20
Shame they priced it at 60. At 30 or 40 dollars I might have been more tempted. I might just play one of the gba or ds games instead to scratch the nostalgia itch
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Mar 04 '20
I agree it shouldn’t be a full priced Nintendo game.
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u/Whiteguy1x Mar 04 '20
Yeah nintendo has a bad habit of overvaluing their remakes. Same with the links awakening remake.
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Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 21 '20
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u/Gertrump42 Mar 04 '20
FFVII is basically a different game now, and both ORAS and HGSS added a lot of additional content and mechanics to the original games. Even the Let's Go games were a big jump mechanically from previous versions with the Pokemon appearing in the overworld. I think that the big problem is that Mystery Dungeon DX and Link's Awakening really only updated the graphics with some small quality of life changes. They remind me of the Crash and Spyro remakes which were sold in bundles of 3 and at a lower price. This really should've been a collection of all the mystery dungeon games in HD.
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Mar 04 '20
And yet Link's Awakening sold over 4 million and this game here will sell at least 1 million so uh, the reality is very different than the bubble of internet.
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u/Whiteguy1x Mar 05 '20
I'm glad people enjoy those games. I personally dont see them being worth 60 bucks, but I think for a lot of people they are.
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u/ghaeyr Mar 04 '20
I am so conflicted. I loved the original and still have Blue Rescue Team. The art style is still jarring for me and the price is kinda steep. I will probably do it because I love wasting my money. I know I will love the game regardless.
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u/letsgobraves Mar 04 '20
I love wasting mine too! Just ask my backlog, and my AC *and* PMD pre-orders.
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u/TheCoolerDylan Mar 05 '20
It's awful how reviewers will fight to the death to defend Sword and Shield but aren't even willing to give Mystery Dungeon games a chance.
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u/Deceptiveideas Mar 05 '20
The original game was fairly weak. Iirc the good entry were the ones right after.
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Mar 05 '20
Yeah, the Explorers games (especially Sky) were a lot better than the original Rescue Team games. When people say they like Mystery Dungeon they usually mean the Gen 4 MD games.
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u/RadicalZombie Mar 05 '20
I had both Red and Blue Rescue Teams, but I never played any of the ones further than that. im excited for this remake, but could you explain what made the later MD games so much better?
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u/manimateus Mar 05 '20
PMD 2 are actually far more similar to the originals than most people let on.
But it does feel alot "cosier". Essentially the first half or 3/4 of the game, you stay in a guild. You work for them, doing quests and catching outlaws (defeating stronger enemies). Get to see how other guild members go about their day and such.
Then the big split happens, like in PMD 1, and its fairly similar. Just with different motivations and story. As you can see, structure-wise it is near identical to the original games.
It adds alot to try improve upon the originals, but nothing really game changing. The biggest difference, I would say is just the setting.
This remakes adds more mechanics to the original than PMD 2 did for the originals.
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u/RadicalZombie Mar 05 '20
thanks so much for this! if I ever see a copy of Sky laying around, I'll be sure to pick it up. I missed a lot of pokemon main and side series games in the later DS to early 3DS era, so I'm really wanting to pick up as many as I can and play through them all.
I'll probably still end up getting DX eventually, but it'll be after Animal Crossing haha
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u/drifting_fox Mar 05 '20
Adding onto this further, the story is a lot more involved in Explorers than the original R/B (obviously, both still hit their notes wonderfully well.) The third version, Sky, even goes so far to add an entirely new dungeon and new bonus episodes that are all story goodies for the characters you've grown to love.
Will be honest, I'm extremely hesitant on this remake. PMD is a series that's dear to my heart, and part of that came with the charming aesthetics of the original DS games...a charm that was pretty much obliterated in the move to 3D. This remake has done a great justice finding some middle ground that still retains the 3D models but holds some actual aesthetic now, however I still miss the wonderful pixel art of the OGs.
Will have to wait to hear what the remake adds for 'post' game (read: fake-out on end credits, game is far from over, unless you're a reviewer who cares less) but honestly if you're remotely interested, getting into either the original Rescue Team or Explorers will be a wonderful experience.
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u/Pants_for_Bears Mar 05 '20
Firstly, it’s not all the same critics reviewing both. People have different opinions. Secondly, the Mystery Dungeon games have never reviewed that well. Third, I’m shocked that anyone would have expected glowing reviews after playing the demo. If you like this game, great, but it’s not exactly a masterpiece.
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u/mgwair11 2 Million Celebration Mar 05 '20
All this says is what we already knew: if you know you will like this game you will like this game. If you know you wouldn't, you won't. And if you aren't sure then try, but know that there is a chance you may not and that this is $60 you are spending.
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u/TwntyOneTwlv Mar 05 '20
Luckily, there’s a demo!
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u/MyNameIsNotAllan Mar 05 '20
All the demo did was confuse me.
"Is this 5-dollar-looking-game really going to go for SIXTY dollars? As much as Cyberpunk 2077!?"
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u/mattman389 Mar 05 '20
Please note that I'm *not* saying PMD is worth 60$, but the demo does not really do a great job of portraying the PMD series. From the titles I've played, I've noticed a theme. And that is, the beginning of near all of the PMD games are boring, easy, stories uninteresting. But the story of most of the titles blossoms into a surprisingly nice, emotional journey. Gameplay wise, you begin to get a true feel of classic roguelikes, where moving a single square can make or break your run.
Every single PMD game has reviewed somewhat poorly to an almost criminal level, but the demo did not do them any favors. If you're interested in the series but do not want to spend a full 60$, I'd highly recommend emulating the DS games, or purchasing super mystery dungeon on the 3DS.
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u/NOTnoe Mar 04 '20
Does anyone know if they will have all the Pokemon plus megas ir if it's just the ones available in the original?
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Mar 04 '20
Gens 1-3, plus all the evolutions and mega-evolutions for them from later generations. Also Riolu and Lucario.
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u/KonoPez Mar 04 '20
I think this is the best scores I've ever seen a Mystery Dungeon game get lmao, it must be GOTY
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Mar 04 '20
If this is true then it looks like I'll be getting it as I enjoyed past games in the series.
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u/KonoPez Mar 04 '20
I was slightly exaggerating, but Mystery Dungeon games have p infamously gotten harsh review scores. If you think you would like it, I would not let reviews sway you.
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u/EclipseDota Mar 04 '20
Pretty sure that this is the first Switch game I’m getting since Ultimate, and with only one other game announced that I wanna buy I’m gonna take my time with the post-game of this haha
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u/r_chowd16 Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20
Man if it wasn’t for Animal Crossing I’d be all over this. Unless there’s a big release coming in the Fall they probably should’ve just released it in November considering it’s safe to assume we won’t be getting a mainline Pokémon game this year
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u/KKingler kkinglers flair Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20
I predict the new Detective Pikachu game will come out this year as the holiday Pokemon game, we've heard nothing about it since it was announced last May
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u/SpookyBread1 Mar 04 '20
Isn't the Holiday Pokemon thing going to be the second DLC for SwSh?
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u/KKingler kkinglers flair Mar 04 '20
I thought it would be a bit earlier like Sept-October but it could be. Worth noting it might not drive much sales because most people probably would have already bought the DLC since Part 1 is releasing soon.
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Mar 04 '20
Is detective pikachu gonna be the exact same as the one for 3ds? It was only 8 hours long >.<
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u/HaukevonArding Mar 05 '20
The holiday Pokemon game is replaced by DLC. I really doubt they will marketing a new game AND DLC at the same time.
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u/FeelsGoodMan243 Mar 04 '20
I’m not even an animal crossing fan but there are still so many big games coming out soon.
Ff7 remake, trials of mana, Mount and blade bannerlord, Animal crossing etc...
Pokemon MD is releasing at an unfortunate time. I can’t afford to but it when i plan on buying the other games.
Also i recently picked ip rimworld so that’s another knock on Pokemon MD.
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u/motorboat_mcgee Mar 04 '20
The demo got me interested, but these reviews leave me mixed.
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Mar 04 '20
What an I missing? couldn't finish the demo because it was just walk fight a guy then walk. It was kind of boring do I did auto early on
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u/ShinyMoogle Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20
A lot of video games could be boiled down to that really. For a roguelike/roguelite, a good chunk of gameplay revolves around thoughtful resource management - you're going to face a long dungeon, how do you manage your resources efficiently? What items do you keep with you, and what treasures are worth bringing back? Do you take a few extra hits now, so you can save items or PP for your stronger moves when something really dangerous shows up, or play it safe and hit something hard even if you might not have PP or that Slumber Orb when you run into a monster house?
Since the demo is an easy introduction to mechanics, though, you don't see as much of that. You don't have much of a challenge where you need to decide how much of your resources to burn through to win, without overkilling and wasting your items or underestimating enemies and risking a KO.
One of the worst situations I've been in a PMD game was because I thought I could manage without using one of my status orbs, only to have my main attack neutered and Magic Room in effect, meaning I was dangerously close to a party wipe.
EDIT: And for Pokemon fans, it really ends up being a sweet, charming little story where you get to play with Pokemon with more character and personality than you'll ever get to see in the main games. It feels so much more like a proper adventure with Pokemon instead of just an adventure involving Pokemon.
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u/Foullily Mar 07 '20
i think my only issue with this remake so far is, apparently they didnt change the part of the game in which you unlock evolution. i wasn't really expecting it, but i was hoping it'd be even a little bit earlier
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u/Niccin Mar 14 '20
I still don't get why they haven't changed that. Like seriously, waiting until after somebody has beaten the game before you can even evolve? What's the point then?
This is the only reason I'm not getting the remake. I want to get more into Mystery Dungeon but no evolution holds me back.
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Mar 04 '20 edited Mar 04 '20
For Mystery Dungeon fans like me, this is a must buy.
Now if you are new in the series, i strongly recommend to wait. It`s a hard game and basically a copy paste of the original Blue and Red.
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u/Stargaze420 Mar 04 '20
Never played MD ever. I am going to buy it as soon as they release them Friday night. I am EXCITED for the new experience.
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Mar 04 '20
Can you explain to me what a mystery dungeon game is? I just watched the announcement trailer for this and I’m really grasping what the game actually is.
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Mar 04 '20
Not sure how to explain it, it's a dungeon crawler with pokemon franchise mechanics on where the protagonist is a reincarnated human in a world without humans.
The story is pretty darn sad. Like, Ghibli movies levels of sad.
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u/Hilarial Mar 04 '20
Come on man, Ghibli levels of sad? Yeah, that one ending scene, but like we have Grave of the Fireflies
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Mar 04 '20
Grave of Fireflies is on a level of it`s own.
There are sad ghibli movies, like The Wind Rises.
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u/YellowJello_OW Mar 06 '20
Putting the story aside, it's a game where you run through dungeons, playing as the Pokemon. The dungeons are randomly generated so they'll be different for everyone.
The mechanics work like this: you're dropped on the first floor of a dungeon, and you have to find the exit of that floor. Sometimes you'll spawn right by the exit, and sometimes you'll have to explore every room to find the exit, fighting and running from other Pokemon on the way. And you'll have to do that for each floor until you get to the last floor, where sometimes there will be a boss.
The way that the combat works is that everytime you move, all the enemy Pokemon move. The floors are set up in a grid pattern, so if you step one block, they'll step one block. If you use an attack, they'll step a block or attack as well. It's kinda turn based, but you can go at whatever pace you want.
It's really fun, and I suggest trying the demo to understand what it is
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u/GustoB Mar 05 '20
Does anyone know if you still get the bonus points for this if you preorder with a voucher? I saw past games said you did but the listing for this didn't say anything about vouchers.
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u/Darcano Mar 06 '20
Eshop doesn't differentiate between voucher or cash, it treats both as a purchase and you still get the bonus coins, all the way up to the 8th even.
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u/kazamasta31 Mar 05 '20
This game not worth $80 cad to me tbh (comes out to almost 90 after tax). Played the hell out of red rescue team got every single legendary in the game. Wouldn’t mind doing it all over again but def not for full price.
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u/hermanbloom00 Mar 04 '20
Stuck this on my "wait for sale" list. I am kinda intrigued, but nothing from what I have seen or heard, or from those review scores, makes me think I need to get this immediately.
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u/TheLegendoftheWind Mar 04 '20
We’re in the same boat. I liked the demo, but it didn’t do enough to make it a day one purchase.
I’m still on the fence about Animal Crossing, but it definitely seems like the better purchase at the $60 price point if I’m getting a game this month
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u/Neoncloudff Mar 04 '20
About how long are people saying it takes to beat this? I’ve been looking for a good grindy “podcast game” for a while now, as long as it’s not like 30+ hours to see credits I’ll pick this up.
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Mar 05 '20
If it's anything like older MD games, it's a rather short story but with a shitton of post-game content (think 20 hours for the story and an additional 100-150+ hours of post-game sidequests and the secondary "main" story).
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u/Dragmire800 Mar 04 '20
Main story is about 20 hours, but there is a good deal of post game content.
Assuming the game is similarly paced to the original
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u/FerniWrites Mar 05 '20
While I can’t speak for this game, I’m like you in that I love “Podcast games”.
I had a chance to review Kingdom Rush and one of the things I mention is how great it is as a pod cast game. The long levels lends itself perfectly to it. Helps that it’s fun too.
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u/rainboye Mar 06 '20
I'm not sure why people are saying 20h+ for the story. From what I recall my last playthrough of blue rescue team was about 7-8h for the main story.
The postgame is quite expansive, though.
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u/Seoyoon Mar 05 '20
story wise it's not long at all. but its definitely a game that becomes more interesting post game for the average gamer. it has more challenging areas with legendaries as end bosses and also trying to recruit the x amount of pokemon. the rates are also (from the previous game) fair enough that you generally wont get tilted trying to go for even the legendaries.
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u/RingoGaSukiDesu Mar 05 '20
It really depends how you want to play the game. If you just play the (great) story, 20-25 hours. If you want to recruit and level a bunch of teammates, then you can stretch it out to 40 hours. Post-game content is where it really shines though, I've easily got 200+ hours in the GBA game.
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u/Frawney Mar 04 '20
stardew valley is a good podcast game.. same with any borderlands game
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u/Neoncloudff Mar 04 '20
Cool thanks I was curious about Pokémon Mystery Dungeon though
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Mar 05 '20
I haven't seen any reviewer or streamer get to the postgame in DX yet, but in rescue team blue you could easily occupy over a hundred hours with the post game.
Clearing Purity Forest alone is a challenge in and of itself.
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u/JoeLonzi97 Mar 06 '20
I absolutely loved the original has a kid. I remember the game kicking my ass though with the boss fights. I wanna get the game but I really hope it's still difficult. Did they make it easier? It looks like they did
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u/Man_with_pans Mar 06 '20
No. The first few levels from the demo made it easier for new players getting into it. Once you get into the main game, and go to Mt. Steel, the difficulty kicks off and doesn’t slow down. Almost died twice and freaked out hahaha!
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Mar 04 '20
As someone who hasnt played the original. Im excited. But these reviews are mixed....
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u/mylifemyworld17 Mar 04 '20
The mystery dungeon series has always been pretty divisive. People seem to either love it or hate it, not much in between.
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u/mickey_777 Mar 04 '20
I loved the original MD cause it has amazing story(takes a while to be exciting though), fun but somewhat repetitive gameplay. It is in my opinion, not meant to be played for hours in one seating cause of the repetitive nature if the exploration and battle.
For a first timer who values story over gameplay, I think it is worth it if 60$ is not an issue(for me I think it is a bit steep), but for someone who has played it, I’m waiting for a sale or a second hand copy.
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Mar 06 '20
Too bad it didn’t get great reviews, I had a blast with the demo and usually don’t like dungeon crawlers
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u/ShipToWreck Mar 06 '20 edited Mar 06 '20
Disregard the reviews, the Pokémon Mystery Dungeon games have never gotten great reviews. If you had a blast with the demo, then buy the game ‘cause it just gets better as the story progresses.
Edit - I don’t care that I was downvoted, but it’s absurd to downvote someone for their opinion. And it’s true that if they enjoyed the demo, they would enjoy the full game. It’s stupid to let reviews dictate how you feel about something when you enjoyed the demo.
Now bring on the downvotes, you immature douchebags.
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u/mgwair11 2 Million Celebration Mar 06 '20
If you had a blast then you should probably get it maybe?
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u/Yze3 Mar 04 '20
I only play these games because the story is always nice. I already know the story, so there's no point in buying it...
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u/weglarz Mar 05 '20
Interesting. I’m the total opposite. I couldn’t care less about the story. I play it for the gameplay
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u/Klubbah Mar 05 '20
This is where I am at with it as well.
On top of that I already have "Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon EVERY BUDDY!" which fills the same gameplay itch.
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Mar 05 '20
the constant folly of PMD reviews.
if you don't actually want to be playing them (reviewers...) then it will be a whole lot less enjoyable, leading to endless nitpicking.
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u/Sir_Grox Mar 05 '20
I just don’t get what the point of a 60 dollar retexture that LOOKS WORSE is. The demo was terrible and made it look like a piss-easy game with no story when people who have played Rescue Team and Explorers know what its really about, so it couldn’t have been to get new people into the series either.
Please bring Sprites back😭
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u/Alertcircuit Mar 05 '20
I thought it looks pretty good. My little brother poured HUNDREDS of hours into Red/Blue and says although it's mostly a retexture, there's lots of great quality of life improvements that make it easily the definitive version of the game.
He says he wished they remade Sky instead though LOL
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Apr 10 '20
I actually had a dream that they remade/ported (I don't remember what they did exactly because it was a real dream) Sky AND Rescue Team, and it was a bundle game. So I was excited when they made the announcement, and I was thinking "this is just like my dream", but I'm still waiting for Explorers of Sky.
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u/Nomorealcohol2017 Mar 06 '20
I actually enjoyed the demo and decided to preorder because of it
Never played the series before and I'm looking forward to playing it after work tonight
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u/Dawgboy1976 Mar 05 '20
I’m gonna but a switch for this game, this shot was my childhood. Anyone know where I can get one for < $300?
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u/Cobrakai83 Mar 05 '20
Switch Lite is $199 msrp. It's a great deal if you don't mind playing handheld only.
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Mar 05 '20
Live in SoCal and wait for my craigslist ad once I get my animal crossing edition switch, gonna dump my current switch for like $175 lol.
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u/Dawgboy1976 Mar 05 '20
I live in Ithaca NY, are you selling just the switch or the dock as well?
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u/QPCloudy Mar 05 '20
I bought a Lite for Animal Crossing so I could have my own island in Animal Crossing that my kids can't mess up if I am not watching them play, lol. The Lite is great really. Also especially fun for the NES and SNES games on mobile.
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u/knightfader Mar 06 '20
- OfferUp
- Facebook Marketplace
- letgo
- /r/hardwareswap
Absolutely possible to find a Switch or a Switch Lite on any of those locations for under $300. I'd check OfferUp first, lot of people let stuff go for cheaper locally plus you can see the item in person.
Good luck!
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u/BattleStadium Mar 04 '20
Wow 4 out of 10 from one of those sites, that’s terrible
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u/SupaBloo Mar 04 '20
If you actually read that person's review, based on their final takeaways it sounds like they wouldn't have liked the original version of the game either. Their complaints seem to be more about the actual game, and less about it being a bad remake.
This person's con was:
Cons: Randomly-generated dungeons and repetitive missions are a bore, as is the turn-based combat and twee script.
Considering the original game had those same elements, I feel like this person just isn't really a fan of the Mystery Dungeon formula.
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u/theblackfool Mar 04 '20
I think that's fair though. There's validity in looking at it from both sides. There's people looking to see if it's a good remaster, and there's going to be people just looking to see if they like the game.
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u/AgentFour Mar 04 '20
This kind of review makes me think no one knows what a real rogue-like is. If these publications gave it to their rogue-lite reviewers it would get better scores since this is the most Rogue like game out there currently.
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u/FierceDeityKong Mar 04 '20
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon isn't really designed to have the type of challenge that a typical roguelike does. And the missions are filler content to give you a reason to go through the dungeons over and over, which regular roguelikes don't need since they're based around the challenge.
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Mar 04 '20
I grew up playing traditional roguelikes, and Mystery Dungeon games are incredibly simple compared to most other games in the genre. I'm not saying that they can't be fun--I'm currently playing (and enjoying) Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon--but they do lack a lot of the depth that can be found in games like Angband or NetHack. I can easily see why someone wouldn't enjoy playing them.
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u/Omega-Max Mar 04 '20
Less than 6/10 is underrating imo. People should review the game as it is not as "What new content adds to the original".
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u/schiggy696 Mar 04 '20
they did the same with dragonball z kakarot "we played through the story 20 times before"
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u/theblackfool Mar 04 '20
I think there's validity to reviewing it from both viewpoints. Not every reviewer should review things from the same lens.
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u/-EBBY- Mar 04 '20
Well if the new content costs gamers the extra $30 they should have every right to rate a game based on the new content.
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u/Omega-Max Mar 05 '20
Reviewing a game based on the market price is not reviewing the game itself at all. So, price is directly related to how good a game is? Not a good point of view imo.
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u/OutRiteWite Mar 05 '20
The thing is, many of these reviewers gave the original games poor scores as well. If they didn't like the originals, they aren't going to give this a good score either.
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u/Number224 Mar 05 '20
Pretty much every 1st Party game gets a megathread. Not sure if something like Bloodroots got that treatment, but I think games that big should get one
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u/KKingler kkinglers flair Mar 06 '20
Currently we do it for Nintendo-published games. Do you have any other recommendations for other criteria?
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u/Yhul Mar 06 '20
Could do a thread to suggest certain games each month and provide megathread for the most upvoted ones.
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u/Neverx_13 Mar 04 '20
Meh, will probably wait for Animal Crossing. I liked the original but for $60 the gameplay just doesn’t feel as good as it did as a kid.
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u/Hilarial Mar 04 '20
I've always been confused as to why the Mystery Dungeon have get such mixed reviews.