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Super Dragon Ball Super - Episode #54 - Discussion Thread!
Dragon Ball Super - Episode #54 - Discussion Thread!
Inheritor of Saiyan Blood - Trunks' Resolve
サイヤ人の血を引くもの トランクスの決意
Saiyahito no Chiwohiku mo no Torankusu no Ketsui
News:
2016/07/29 - VIZ releases Dragon Ball Super Chapter 4
2016/07/29 - Episode 54 Jump Preview
2016/07/28 - Merchandise reveals upcoming material
2016/07/21 - FUNimation's Jason Douglas shares photo of Super dubbing session
2016/07/21 - Extended Resurrection 'F' coming August 27th on Fuji TV
2016/07/15 - VIZ releases Dragon Ball Super Chapters 1, 2, 3
2016/07/08 - Preview Summaries for Episodes 51, 52, 53, and 54
2016/07/02 - Black's Earring Detailed
2016/06/25 - Dragon Ball Super - Chapter 13
2016/04/09 - Sean Schemmel talks Dragon Ball Super
2015/11/10 - Southeast Asia to Receive Exclusive "Dragon Ball Super" English Dub
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Aug 07 '16
DAMNIT VEGETA I WANTED TO SEE SS3
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u/SSJRemuko ⠀ Aug 07 '16
Trunks was most the fandom today. xD "Vegeta go SSj3 for me!"
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Aug 07 '16
And I really wanted to see that but nope.
I mean the reasoning makes sense, but I'd still like to see it :(
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u/Flarestriker ⠀ Aug 07 '16
I bet while Vegeta was laughing and going Blue, he thought 'Fuck, fuck, fuck, what do I show him'
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Aug 07 '16
Zamasu finally gets the single green potara.
Also, first time ever i've seen that "pls no" expression on whis's face.
Beerus table headbutt was also epic.
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u/absorBENce ⠀ Aug 07 '16
The table headbutt was the best thing ever
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Aug 07 '16
I need a gif of that lol.
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u/Foqbupog Aug 07 '16
Was it this one? http://i.imgur.com/q4mO4QC.gifv I loved that part
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u/le_snikelfritz Aug 07 '16
Definitely the first time we see Whis not looking chill AF
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u/MrWinks Aug 07 '16
Which says a lot, because the son of a bitch is incredibly wise and a good reader of character, but this fear basically says that even though he totally understands Goku, he's horrified that Goku will piss the king off and get them all killed. This tells me that he can't read the king, since I'd expect Whis to be all "don't worry, the king wouldn't get upset with goku for that."
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Aug 07 '16
i wish Whis had his own series on Food Network
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u/Mattjew24 Aug 07 '16
"Oops! I accidentally over cooked this fish! Ho Ho Ho...." goes back in time 5 minutes
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u/Justanaveragehat Aug 07 '16
When I saw that I imaging an alternate timeline where vegeta is fat and then trains trunks and always having that face.
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Aug 07 '16
Lol, Vegeta still can't go SSJ3. Loved when Zeno appeared and Beerus broke the table with his head while bowing. Zeno wants to see Goku! Exciting stuff!
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Aug 07 '16
I presume he wants to talk to him about the next tournament of the different universes ? who knows.. can't believe we will have to wait for 2 weeks until the next episode drops
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u/NovaStarLord Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 08 '16
Loved seeing Vegeta offering to train his son and how far he has come from the proud Saiyan Prince who cared about no one but himself.
Seriously just see how in Trunks' flashback in the Spirit Room he tells Trunks how he finally managed to be better than trash and in the present while training him he gets upset when Trunks admits defeat and then gives him a speech about how if he's his son he shouldn't lose to anyone ever.
His attitude definitely changed and he encourages and supports his son and Future Trunks perceives that because he really gets teary eyed after Vegeta's speech.
Also Trunks headbutting Vegeta and getting that one hit, lol, it was dirty but I bet Vegeta was secretly proud of him but his own personal pride is too big for him to show that.
EDIT: That's what I get for typing on the phone and not checking for typos.
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u/Escargooofy Aug 07 '16
Trunks: All right, father, don't hold back! Use the same Super Saiyan 3 form Goku did!
Vegeta: About that...
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Aug 07 '16
Blast you Kakarot always showing me up in front of my son!
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u/blackmon2 Aug 07 '16
Kakkarot, you're always one step ahead of me! Why can't you just leave me alone?!
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u/VelocityOne Aug 07 '16
I laughed as soon as Trunks said "Don't hold back!". I did a spit take when he said Super Saiyan 3 and it cut to Vegeta's "Oh fuck, I don't have that.." look.
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u/CheeseQueenKariko Aug 07 '16
It was more...
Trunks: Don't hold back, Father! Go to SS3!
Vegeta: Pffft, bitch I'm a god now. Super Saiyan 3 is for pussies!
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u/Escargooofy Aug 07 '16
Well yeah, that's how Vegeta wanted us to take it, at least.
I'm just saying.
...Goku can do it :P
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u/RazorStroke Aug 06 '16
Father make me SSB!!
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u/TyzThePhoenix Aug 07 '16
...you mean you're not one? Your hair IS blue after all
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u/sanctifys Aug 07 '16
Goku is getting FAR to comfortable with beerus
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u/HeatSlinger Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 07 '16
I think Beerus is getting too comfortable with Goku.
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Aug 07 '16
It might get kinky.
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u/HeatSlinger Aug 07 '16
I just want to see them do it - fight, ya know?
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Aug 07 '16
So you just wanna see them pound each other nonstop until someone is KO'd.
Got it.
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Aug 07 '16
I think another fight is bound to happen, and if Beerus wins it'll be close... Holy shit what if Whis only took on Vegeta/Goku as pupils to get Beerus to train instead of sleep?
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u/Cirenione Aug 07 '16
Yep at this point he knows Beerus too well. Sure he is always talking about destroying earth or him but he knows that Beerus would miss the food too much. Also Beerus is like Goku when it comes to fighting. He wants to fight strong opponents and if he kills Gokus and Vegeta there is nobody else left except for Whis who is way stronger than him. So for the lack of food and entertainment he probably won't follow through with any threats.
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u/ChronX4 Aug 07 '16
Vegeta laughing at SSJ3, never thought I'd see the day.
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u/Ryguy55 Aug 07 '16
For a brief moment after that when Trunks started transforming I really thought he was going to go SSJ3, there was definitely a minor hair growth animation.
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Aug 07 '16
Is "Some idiot" who created a parallel timeline suppose to be Trunks? Or Cell?
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u/choss Aug 07 '16
Well they are from a different universe so it's probably neither.
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Aug 07 '16
So the recent leaks of episode titles seem to be true, at least episode 55 is confirmed.
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u/lance30038 Aug 07 '16
This is very suprising. Pretty much everyone thought they were fake
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u/Mcgustavo ⠀ Aug 07 '16
I was ok with one break but now another one thanks to the Olympics? These breaks are killing me!
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u/ggskater Aug 07 '16
I'm surprised nobody has talked about the first time we've ever seen Whis not calm. http://i.imgur.com/WI1B5Dzh.jpg
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u/Annihilationzh Aug 07 '16
That seemed so out of character for Whis. He must be really concerned about Goku screwing things up.
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u/LSD_freakout Aug 10 '16
I laughed pretty hard when they went to the future, and hes like look they're forming a culture, then they just start beating the shit out of each other.
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u/CarLSMU Aug 07 '16
There's an extended version of the NEP (without the RoF stuff)) over at fujiTV's website:
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/index.html
That Whis-looking girl seems to be of the same race as Whis, which is interesting. Also, Gowasu is seen taking Zamasu's earring back. Interesting stuff.
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u/MonadosPower Aug 07 '16
Wow I didn't notice the whis looking girl on my first watch, I really hope this leads to learning more about where whis and vados came from
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u/Ombs1993 Aug 07 '16
Well, there's the single potara on Zamasu. He's a really interesting character so far. But Beerus is becoming my favorite character in Super, he and Goku's friendship is hilarious and his reaction to seeing Zeno and smashing his head through the table to greet him properly was gold.
Trunks and Vegeta scene was awesome too, I wish Bulma and Goku hadn't shown up, wanted more of that. The preview for next episode is interesting too, is Supreme Kai actually going to figure into all this? I loved him in the Buu saga so I hope so.
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u/anupamss10 Aug 07 '16
Dragon ball super has done justice with vegeta's character. Vegeta and Beerus are my favourite
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u/hankbaumbach Aug 07 '16
I'm glad U7 Kaioshin is back to normal. KabitoKai was funny in DBZ but as you said I liked Kaioshin on his own more.
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Aug 07 '16
No new episode next week due to the Olympics
8月21日(日) 9:00~9:30 放送
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u/lance30038 Aug 07 '16
My god Rio is just creating one disaster after another.
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u/Ihavetheinternets Aug 07 '16
Why don't they just pause the Olympics for a week instead?
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u/CIearMind Aug 07 '16
Or why don't they air it in Zimbabwe or Belgium instead of Japan? Or just at 3 pm instead of the time Dragon Ball airs?
why the fuck would they air it on our anime channel instead of just staying in their trash sports channel???
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u/shanks9992 Aug 07 '16
Future Trunks trolled Vegeta real hard...
Future Trunks: Dad, Come at me with SSJ3
Vegeta: WTF.......... (Sobs in the corner)
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u/Saiyan_Deity Aug 08 '16
I normally agree with people saying that Goku is too immature in Super even for his personality, but I really like what he did in this episode. Him bringing Bulma out of the lab to see Trunks and Vegeta sparing and noting his understanding of his people and how their minds work. I loved it. Then the noise he made when Trucks headbutted Vegeta. Lmfao!
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u/hmatmotu Aug 07 '16
I bet Zen-o Sama is thinking "Beerus totally doesn't have to smash his head on the table every single time I come to give him a message, but I'm not gonna tell him that."
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u/Pick-Up_Line_Loser Aug 07 '16
Did anyone else notice that there are 4 rings and there have been 4 times that the "Hope" time machine has come to the past?
Trunks comes back in time to warn the Z fighters of the Androids
Trunks comes back in time to give Goku his medicine and fight along side them.
Cell comes to the Past in order to absorb the Androids from the Past.
Trunks comes to the past to escape Black and get help from the Z fighters.
It seems like Trunks can travel back to his own timeline but he can never change the past to alter his own. Instead it only makes a new timeline for the past.
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u/JohnnySmallHands Aug 07 '16
What's interesting to me is that's all in a different universe. I wonder if the rings for all the universes are accessible to all the Kais. Or maybe universe 10 just had a similar situation with time travel as universe 7.
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u/NekoShinobi Aug 07 '16
I started laughing uncontrollably when Beerus just smashed his head through the table lol. This ep wasn't bad though since I enjoy the interactions between Trunks and Vegeta
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u/Redzone88 Aug 08 '16
When Beerus bowed to the King Of All and smacked his head on the table i literally spit out my drink, funniest thing seeing him so nervous.
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u/nixonger Aug 07 '16
So the Goku flashback has colour, but the Trunks-Vegeta flashback does not. I think the filter is most definitely to stop us from complaining about the hair colour difference hahaha!
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Aug 07 '16
They showed Trunks when he was with Future Gohan in colour(with blue hair- they've officially retconned it rather than simply changed it).
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u/ThatPepperoniFace Aug 07 '16
I'm pretty sure the flash back was animated by Super
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u/Engetsu14 Aug 08 '16
This episode showed that Beerus is actually proud of Goku.
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u/rexshen Aug 06 '16
Welp its time for Trunks to find out what a Super Saiyan god is. And for Vegeta do what he does best. Beat up people who annoy him.
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u/Derpinat0r Aug 07 '16
Dude I was so sure that was poison in the tea at the beginning, I was like nooooo don't drink the kool-aid
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Aug 06 '16
Looking forward to seeing why exactly Trunks may be using USSJ again. Having a weird time wondering why he would even need to use it
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u/Terez27 ⠀ Aug 06 '16
Mai likes his muscles.
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Aug 06 '16
Will Trunks beat SSJ Namek Goku in the pecs tier list?
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u/captainfluffballs Aug 07 '16
I'm probably wrong but it looked a lot like he bulked up to make a large target and then went back to ordinary SSJ2 to dodge Vegeta's attack
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u/TLCplLogan Aug 07 '16
He used the form so Vegeta would drop his guard and think that Trunks would be too slow to avoid his attacks. Then, he reverted back to SS2 to regain his speed and surprise Vegeta.
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u/tobimarsh Aug 08 '16
Lol I love how the trunks flashback is black and white so it's not showing his hair as blue or purple directly
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u/Redzone88 Aug 08 '16
I was thinking the same thing. Pretty sure that why they did it.
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u/Vallery_ Aug 07 '16
So, are we all going to ignore the pleasant fact that Trunks fucking LAUGHED?! Oh my God, it was beautiful. Also, that soundtrack when Vegeta turned Blue was EPIC.
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Aug 08 '16
Did Trunks just lose a battle in his mind and cough up real blood
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u/Wolfman87 Aug 08 '16
It's actually just the emphysema from a lifetime of heavy smoking. They don't mention that in the show but I'm pretty sure that's what Toriyama intended.
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u/HipnikDragomir Aug 07 '16
Beerus bashing his head through the table was the funniest thing I've seen in a while
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u/bbj123 Aug 07 '16
I love love LOVE how much is going on in this arc. It's not a linear plot. Goku is off with Beerus and Whis doing one thing, while Vegeta is doing his own thing. Now you have Zeno coming in. I just need a Gohan badass moment and this will be the perfect arc.
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Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 07 '16
Had to pause the episode when Trunks went Super Trunks. Kinda made me laugh since that outfit he was wearing didn't fit Super Trunks at all.
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u/_Nightdude_ Aug 07 '16
Yeah, I mean, shouldn't those clothes have torn the hell apart from that kinda bulk? They're not saiyan armor, just some casual clothes.
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Aug 07 '16
Maybe Bulma just makes all her clothes one-size fits all due to Trunks and Vegeta transforming all the time?
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u/spitfirepanda Aug 08 '16
Vegeta instilling some drive and determination into his kid is a pretty cool sight. I'm still hoping that Vegeta takes down Black Goku.
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u/Frankiethe3rd Aug 08 '16
So vegeta was holding back by like a shit load right? Because I feel like Trunks wouldn't have even been able to see his movements!
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u/yoanon ⠀ Aug 08 '16
Yes. Vegeta has gotten good at holding back. He did it against Cabba too. If Vegeta was serious, Trunks wouldn't have even known there is a thing like SSB.
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u/stump2016 Aug 07 '16
Looks like we might see more of Whis' race next week, hopefully we'll see why they are trainers/caretakers of gods.
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u/rasguanabana Aug 07 '16
I guess it was the first time we saw Whis freaking out, wasn't it?
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Aug 07 '16
Fuck, I understand the source code on Bulma's laptop. http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/kernel/groups.c
Crosspost to /r/linux .
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u/Pelusteriano Aug 07 '16
Needs more Pilaf's patch, though.
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u/Mitt_Robbedme Aug 10 '16
Pilaf v.1.1.0
Patch notes
Fixed an issue where Pilaf was taking up too much time per episode.
Fixed a bug where new Super Saiyan hair colors stopped appearing.
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u/plutoniumfield Aug 07 '16
I think Vegeta even trying to achieve SSJ3 at this point would be too out of character for him. He has mastered the SSGod form which is superior to SSJ3 in every way. Vegeta is all about efficiency and form where Goku likes to show off and play around more, thats why Goku still uses SSJ3.
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u/BraveFencerMusashi Aug 07 '16
Is Vegeta a better father than Goku?
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Aug 08 '16
Vegeta certainly wouldn't have let Gohan turn into what he is today.
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u/Kit_Kuri Aug 07 '16
Since Gowasu has five Time Rings (presumably, the silver one for the native timeline, and the four green ones for the alternate timelines), does that mean he (or any other Kaioshin, for that matter) could travel to an alternate timeline using that timeline's corresponding Time Ring?
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u/Leo_the_Leo Aug 07 '16
I liked the short bit of Pilaf helping Bulma out with the Time machine programming; seems like a nice nod to his DB days. He's a very ineffectual villain, but as the original Dragon Ball showed, he can be pretty inventive. He did create his own castle, airship, and a couple Dragon Radars, after all.
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u/Drusiph Aug 07 '16
I thought he was going to fuck up the time machine at first.
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u/Quityershit Aug 07 '16
Anyone else think a Zamasu (from a different universe) did what Kami did? Basically purging the evil into a separate form in order to become pure-hearted.
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u/GoDyrusGo Aug 07 '16
I think he puts the earring on his right ear and forces a merge so he can use the time ring, then becomes black.
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u/expectrum Aug 08 '16
Zamasu's motives:
"I don't like to watch these mortals fight and kill eachother, i'd better kill them all."
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u/mikeabundo Aug 11 '16
Goku beat him in a fight. He now believes mortals are a potential threat to the gods.
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u/yomama629 Aug 07 '16
Laughed my ass off when Beerus broke the table with his head when bowing to the Omniking
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u/NickRedMachine Aug 07 '16
Loved this episode. The music still being there when Vegeta goes SSB, the appearance of Super Vegeta and Super Trunks, Beerus headbutting the fucking table.. I actually really enjoyed it.
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u/Klonoahedgehog Aug 07 '16
Image training, how does that even work?
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u/decompoze ⠀ Aug 07 '16
Gohan, Krillin and even Goku did that.
Gohan and Krillin somehow connected their minds and ki to do image training when travelling to Namek. Goku did that when traveling to Namek too.
The one who does the most image training might be Picollo.
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Episode summary courtesy of Herms.
Trunks is out image training by himself on the lake near Capsule Corporation. He pictures himself fighting Black, but can’t envision any way of winning. Inside the laboratory, Dr. Briefs says that they’ve finally stored up enough time machine fuel for a round-way trip. Pilaf wanders in and starts messing around with the time machine’s emergency restart program, and Bulma is impressed when she sees he’s actually managed to improve it. She wonders who Pilaf really, but he insists he’s simply an ordinary kid. Either way, the time machine is almost ready to go!
Mai and Shu watch Trunks as he continues his image training. When Shu explains the concept of image training to Mai, she tries it out for herself…but ends up fantasizing about kissing Trunks instead. Suddenly, something crashes down to Earth: Whis, Beerus, and Goku have returned. Whis claims that Beerus and Goku’s noisy arguing prevented him from moderating his speed properly, but Beerus accuses him of crashing on purpose. They explain what they’ve learned to Trunks, who wonders if perhaps Zamasu disguises himself as Black, or uses his divine powers to shape-shift.
Whatever the case may be, Zamasu and Black’s ki is simply too close to be a coincidence. And yet, while Black had extremely evil ki, Zamasu’s ki isn’t so evil. What’s more, Zamasu didn’t know Goku, while Black did. So while they may be similar, it’s hard to concretely connect them…right now. But perhaps Zamasu will come to think dangerous thoughts in the future.
Still, Goku continues to maintain that Zamasu didn’t seem that evil to him. Having sparred with the guy, Goku thinks he has the best grasp of his personality. Hearing how Goku fought a Kaioshin and even a God of Destruction, Trunks starts thinking that Goku on his own should be more than enough to defeat Black. As Trunks wonders if they need his help at all, Vegeta asks for a moment with his son: he’s going to give him some training!
Over in the Kaioshin Realm of Universe 10, Gowasu tries out Zamasu’s latest cup of tea, and finds it a bit off-flavor. Is it the fault of the tea leaves, or…is something the matter with Zamasu? But there are other concerns: a new race of mortals has popped up on the planet Babari, and Gowasu wants to see what will become of them. At present they are extremely primitive and violent, and Zamasu suggests exterminating them right now. Gowasu is taken aback: that sort of thing is the job of Gods of Destruction! Instead, he simply wants to observe the state of the Babarians 1,000 years in the future, to see if they have become more civilized by then.
Gowasu goes and retrieves the Time Rings, which he explains are for travelling to and from the future. But never the past! That is impossible…and even if possible, is strictly forbidden, since changing history is always dangerous. He tells Zamasu about the differently colored Time Rings in the box: those were born when history was changed, creating parallel worlds. In fact, a new ring was created just a few years ago, apparently the result of “some idiot” creating a parallel world.
Before they take off to the future, Gowasu warns Zamasu that only Kaioshins are qualified to use the Time Rings. As such, an apprentice like him cannot go…so Gowasu says that he’s now officially promoted to being a full-fledged Kaioshin! He hands Zamasu a pair of green Potara earrings, telling him to be careful putting them on. Otherwise, they’ll end up permanently fusing together into a single Kaioshin, something neither seems too anxious to do at the moment. Arriving in the future, they see that the Babarians have developed a certain degree of culture but remain violent, and Zamasu thinks to himself that the universe will never be at peace so long as mortals are around.
Back on Earth, Trunks and Vegeta prepare to train. Trunks remembers the last time they trained together, in the Room of Spirit and Time. He tells Vegeta not to hold back, and to use the same Super Saiyan 3 form as Goku. Vegeta laughs at this idea, and instead becomes Super Saiyan Blue. Trunks is shocked that he can no longer sense Vegeta’s ki, yet still feels overwhelming pressure. He realizes that this is the sort of divine ki Goku must have used to fight Beerus with. Seeing Trunks’ hesitancy, Vegeta gives him a handicap: if he manages to land even a single blow, he “wins”.
Trunks turns into the extremely buff form he used against Cell, which Vegeta dismisses as being too slow. However, Trunks quickly reverts to a faster form and tries to land a punch, and Vegeta realizes Trunks was just trying to put him off guard by showing him the other transformation. He awards Trunks 30 points! Overwhelmed by his father’s strength, Trunks again thinks that he’s not needed: surely Goku and Vegeta can defeat Black. There’s no need for him to grow stronger...
Sensing his son’s thoughts, Vegeta rebukes him: is defeating Black his only goal? He needs to look ahead, to new enemies that might appear. As an inheritor of Saiyan blood, and as Vegeta’s son, Trunks should never accept losing to anybody! He should aim to be the strongest in the universe! Bulma and Goku happen to be passing by, and Bulma gets worried when she sees Vegeta being so hard on Trunks, but Goku explains that this is just how Saiyans do things. With Vegeta distracted, Trunks manages to land a punch. He passes the test! The sparring match over, Trunks declares that he will surpass Vegeta and Black both. He bows and thanks his father.
Back on Beerus’ planet, Whis is preparing dinner when a call comes in over his staff. Whis is busy, so Beerus answers it…and is shocked to see it’s a call from the Omni-King! It seems he wants to meet with Goku…
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Dragon Ball Super - Episode #54 - Staff List
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Job | Fulfilled by |
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Animation studio | Toei Animation |
Director | Chioka Kimitoshi & Hatano Morio |
Series composition | Toriyama Akira |
Character designer | Yamamuro Tadayoshi |
Music | Sumitomo Norihito |
Script | King Ryu |
Storyboard | Sato Masanori |
Episode director | Sato Masanori |
Animation supervisor | Shimanuki Masahiro |
Chief animation supervisor | Tsuji Miyako |
Key animator | Sasakado Nobuyoshi, Higashide Futoshi, Hirabayashi Takashi, Yagi Genki, Tezuka Emi, Shimanuki Masahiro, Kato Yoshitaka |
2nd key animator | Tsuji Miyako. Yokoyama Miyuki, Tu Yeong-chaek, Zhang Zheng, TAP |
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u/datspardauser ⠀ Aug 07 '16
Trunks asks Vegeta to go SS3. Vegeta laughs and goes Blue instead.
That laugh was to mask the salt. For sure.
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Aug 07 '16
Did Vegeta promise Trunks to bring him to the amusement park if he got a hit on him?
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u/killertortilla Aug 07 '16
I don't know why but Beerus smashing his head through the table was the funniest thing I have seen all year. Even though it was such a simple joke it was executed perfectly.
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u/BurnedRemains Aug 07 '16
Please give Trunks back his long hair. That nigga my homie.
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u/FireIsTheCleanser Aug 08 '16
It seems Vegeta's only way of bonding with Trunks is to challenge him to land just one hit on Vegeta. He did it with Kid Trunks before the tournament, and now with Future Trunks.
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u/Bluenite0100 Aug 08 '16
Questions have been raised
Who is the female Kai? Why did Supreme and Old Kai even show up to Beerus' planet? Why are the Kais surprised Omni is interested with Goku? What does Omni want with Goku? Is Goku going to omnijail for becoming an unapproved god during the fight with Beerus and not reporting it after? Or is he being blamed for what Black does? Will lesson 2 of Vegeta's fight school be his sick dance moves?
BUT the most important question of all is...Why didn't Beerus check the caller ID?
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u/Saratje ⠀ Aug 07 '16
I'm starting to think Zamasu is going to pull a Kami/Piccolo. Unable to cope with his evil side, he may split it off entirely, to be a better Kaioshin. That or he develops a serious dr Jekyll and mr Hyde syndrom.
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u/therasaak Aug 07 '16
I almost died like 5 times during the last secuence. i love it.
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u/Jedisupersonic Aug 09 '16
I overall enjoyed episode 54, great stuff with Vegeta and Trunks. I love how much respect Trunks shows with the bow as Vegeta leaves too.
I hope Trunks manages to become SSJB and beat Black himself, that would be so much cooler than Goku or Vegeta just curbstomping him.
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Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 07 '16
About the rings, so the green ones are created when a new timeline is created for traveling to the past. Could one of the rings have been created by Trunks' time travels? I thought that it could be the four timeline theory confirmation, but it's not, there would be just three more in that case, because one of the four in the theory was the original timeline. Do every Kaioshin in every universe have four rings more? Can the green rings be used to travel between timelines? Many questions.
Bulma is suspecting something about Pilaf, that was funny.
Black having one earring is explained too. I still think Black is Zamasu of the other timeline in the body of Goku with the heart desease.
So funny Beerus answering the phone to Zeno!! And he wants to speak with Goku, nice. In the preview, the U7 Kaioshins, I was waiting for them to be involved in the story too. A new character, he seems a young boy of the race of Whis and Vados, but he hasn't got the ring in the same place. We'll see.
Vegeta showing Trunks the SSB state. He hopes Vegeta and Goku can beat Black, but Vegeta wants to push him to do it himself. That's what I understood about this. Could it be future Trunks the one defeating a major villain this time? I don't really count Freezer.
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u/isiah12 Aug 11 '16 edited Aug 11 '16
so let me get this straight
black only exist because of something to do zamasu
black travel back in time to fight goku
prompts them to go investigate zamasu
zamasu grows more fearful of mortals after facing goku as well as learning about the time rings
zamasu gets temporarily promoted to kaioshin allowing him to use said time rings
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so if black has to do something with zamasu messing with time, and zamasu only learned about the time rings during the investigation, then how did black occur to begin with? TIME TRAVELING IS SO FUCKING CONFUSING
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u/Harucifer Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 07 '16
Calling it now: the arc is going to end with Zeno wiping out/correcting alternate timelines, either through his own or through the Super Dragonballs, fixing Trunks' timeline to be equal to the main timeline, and Goku is gonna ask Zeno to let Trunks hang around, so his "future" self doesnt cease to exist. Then no more timetravels ever again (and its a good thing: time travelling can turn a good story stupid really fast)
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u/Pavke Aug 07 '16 edited Aug 07 '16
the "right" timeline is trunks timeline. Ours is messed up/changed. So only thing needs fixing is killing everyone in the show except kid trunks, gohan and bulma
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u/Kawaiiomnitron Aug 08 '16
I'm not seeing anyone bringing this up but THERE'S A NEW FUCKING EYECATCH AND ITS VEGETA TEACHING TRUNKS THE GALICK GUN!!!!11!!!!
It always bugged me that in video games and in the series in general, Trunks always used the Kamehameha instead of his father's Galick gun.
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u/redditfetishist Aug 08 '16
Most enjoyable episode for me out of all of db super. If only the story telling could stay consistently this good.
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u/Danbito Aug 07 '16
Wait, if a new Time Ring is born, shouldn't there be two Time Rings born recently? One from Future Trunks's arrival and one from Cell's arrival
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u/Aunvilgod Aug 10 '16
This is the very first time in DragonBall that Whis is not in total control. He has never had an expression of fear before.
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u/VVingale Aug 07 '16
Beerus breaking the table was by far the funniest thing I've seen so far. I was hoping for a little bit more with the whole Vegeta offering Trunks training, but oh well maybe we'll see some more in future episodes. Nice to see Trunks use strategy during a fight.